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Bolani Muslim

Why a 15 year old left Shiaism
« on: December 04, 2014, 03:48:24 AM »
Salaams to everyone reading this,

My story won't be as 'interesting' as brother Husayn's conversion, but I'd still like to make it public for anyone else contemplating joining the true followers of the sunnah.

History wise, the only Islamic education I had while growing up was my Shia family, and our local Sunday-School which I still go to today. So by no means am I an expert or a scholar (just a layman looking for Haqq).

My first major issues with Shiaism came when I started reading up on Ayatollah Fadlullah (خدا بیامرز), Nader Zaveri's website, as well as how Iran became Shia through forced conversion, not through Omar's (ra) cruelty like we were taught in 'masjid'.

From then on I read pro-sunni and pro-shia posts (like Tijani's book) and after months of researching I said my shahada again and declared myself a sunni (Hanafi). Hopefully, I'll be able to tell my family when I'm older.


I'd also like to say thanks to all the people exposing the Shia creed, I hate how ignorant Sunnis leave their faith after reading refuted shia garbage online.

Thanks for reading, Khudai Paman

Farid

Re: Why a 15 year old left Shiaism
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2014, 11:05:57 AM »
Wa alaykum alsalam wa rahmatullah wa barakatuh,

Welcome to the dark-side brother. >=)

I think I too first started reading up on polemics when I was around your age. It was a very confusing time for me as well. We are always around if you need any help and the more experienced brother will be more than happy to point you into the right direction inshallah.

Hadrami

Re: Why a 15 year old left Shiaism
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2014, 12:58:07 PM »
wa alaikum salam bro, be ready to be called a zionist, wahabi, nasibi etc. Are you afghan? Tajik by any chance?

Imam Ali

Re: Why a 15 year old left Shiaism
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2014, 02:31:42 PM »
Salaams to everyone reading this,

My story won't be as 'interesting' as brother Husayn's conversion, but I'd still like to make it public for anyone else contemplating joining the true followers of the sunnah.

History wise, the only Islamic education I had while growing up was my Shia family, and our local Sunday-School which I still go to today. So by no means am I an expert or a scholar (just a layman looking for Haqq).

My first major issues with Shiaism came when I started reading up on Ayatollah Fadlullah (خدا بیامرز), Nader Zaveri's website, as well as how Iran became Shia through forced conversion, not through Omar's (ra) cruelty like we were taught in 'masjid'.

From then on I read pro-sunni and pro-shia posts (like Tijani's book) and after months of researching I said my shahada again and declared myself a sunni (Hanafi). Hopefully, I'll be able to tell my family when I'm older.


I'd also like to say thanks to all the people exposing the Shia creed, I hate how ignorant Sunnis leave their faith after reading refuted shia garbage online.

Thanks for reading, Khudai Paman

Congratulations for seeing the light, brother. All praises are due to Allah (SWT).

Do you mind me asking, but do you mean you accepted the Sunni version at the age of 15 or are 15?

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Re: Why a 15 year old left Shiaism
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2014, 05:52:53 PM »
و علیکم سلام و ر و ب

الحمد لله
در خلافت میل نیست ای بی‌خبر
میل کی آید ز بوبکر و عمر
میل اگر بودی در آن دو مقتدا
هر دو کردندی پسر را پیشوا

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Bolani Muslim

Re: Why a 15 year old left Shiaism
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2014, 11:23:45 PM »
wa alaikum salam bro, be ready to be called a zionist, wahabi, nasibi etc. Are you afghan? Tajik by any chance?

Yep, both my parents are from Kabul making me a proud Tajik


Congratulations for seeing the light, brother. All praises are due to Allah (SWT).

Do you mind me asking, but do you mean you accepted the Sunni version at the age of 15 or are 15?
I'm 15 currently, turning 16 in a few weeks 
« Last Edit: April 21, 2015, 09:05:15 PM by Hani »

Taha

Re: Why a 15 year old left Shiaism
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2014, 03:29:59 AM »
و عليكم السلام

Thank you for posting your experiences, brother.  I am a Shi`a but I have been having my doubts.  I will try to post more frequently in the near future and إن شاء الله we will have some good discussions.

خدا حافظ

Husayn

Re: Why a 15 year old left Shiaism
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2014, 04:33:35 AM »
Wa alaikum assalam akh Bolani Muslim,

You must be much less stubborn and way more intelligent than I am - 15/16 years old was about the time I started questioning some Rafidi beliefs, but no matter how bad the explanation I always accepted it with a smile and moved on...  8)
إن يتبعون إلا الظن وما تهوى الأنفس

Ameen

Re: Why a 15 year old left Shiaism
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2015, 10:36:32 PM »
Salaams to everyone reading this,

My story won't be as 'interesting' as brother Husayn's conversion, but I'd still like to make it public for anyone else contemplating joining the true followers of the sunnah.

History wise, the only Islamic education I had while growing up was my Shia family, and our local Sunday-School which I still go to today. So by no means am I an expert or a scholar (just a layman looking for Haqq).

My first major issues with Shiaism came when I started reading up on Ayatollah Fadlullah (خدا بیامرز), Nader Zaveri's website, as well as how Iran became Shia through forced conversion, not through Omar's (ra) cruelty like we were taught in 'masjid'.

From then on I read pro-sunni and pro-shia posts (like Tijani's book) and after months of researching I said my shahada again and declared myself a sunni (Hanafi). Hopefully, I'll be able to tell my family when I'm older.


I'd also like to say thanks to all the people exposing the Shia creed, I hate how ignorant Sunnis leave their faith after reading refuted shia garbage online.

Thanks for reading, Khudai Paman

How did Iran become Shia through forced conversion??? Tell me more on this. It's got nothing to do with hate and love. You left Shiaism and no one should hate you for that and neither should you hate anyone. After months of researching you said your Shahadah again??? What was the difference in the Shahadah you said and believed in before compared to the one you said and believe in now??? Many thanks.

And thanks to all the people exposing the Shia creed??? LOL! You don't need to expose the Shia creed. They're open and clear about who they are. You should be worried about those who can't declare and introduce who they are and who are too hesitant to tell and speak about themselves.

Hani

Re: Why a 15 year old left Shiaism
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2015, 10:39:43 PM »
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

Ameen

Re: Why a 15 year old left Shiaism
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2015, 10:40:27 PM »
Well brothers if you're 15/16 then you don't know much about life anyway. Your hormones are running all over the place at this age. And you still have to learn a lot about life. Questions and this age do create confusion and doubt. So I don't really blame you from hopping and skipping from one place to the other.

Hani

Re: Why a 15 year old left Shiaism
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2015, 10:44:03 PM »
Well brothers if you're 15/16 then you don't know much about life anyway. Your hormones are running all over the place at this age. And you still have to learn a lot about life. Questions and this age do create confusion and doubt. So I don't really blame you from hopping and skipping from one place to the other.


You're belittling him with this comment. I knew people who where 15/16 and knew more than I could ever hope to know about details of Fiqh and `Aqeedah.
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

Imam Ali

Re: Why a 15 year old left Shiaism
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2015, 10:55:39 PM »
Ameen, please enlighten us all. How old are you?

Ameen

Re: Why a 15 year old left Shiaism
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2015, 12:00:59 AM »
My dear brother Hani, I am not belittling anybody. 15/16 years of age is nothing. One still needs to learn a lot about life at this age.

As far as belittling is concerned, there are brothers on this forum who speak down on others, call other names, humiliate and insult others (Shias) and their belief (Shiaism), be sarcstic towards other and call others all sorts.

I don't see you saying a word or speaking out about this. Ebn Hussein is one of them. Have you seen his language and how he speaks about others and behaves towards them. There are others on this forum as well.

Where are your principals??? Where are your rules and regulations??? Come on, this is a one sided show. Nobody is interested here on a serious discussion or debate. Take a look at their behaviour and attitude and in response they claim they are looking for knowledgeable shias.

Please, give me a break!

Hani

Re: Why a 15 year old left Shiaism
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2015, 12:08:24 AM »
My dear brother Hani, I am not belittling anybody. 15/16 years of age is nothing. One still needs to learn a lot about life at this age.

As far as belittling is concerned, there are brothers on this forum who speak down on others, call other names, humiliate and insult others (Shias) and their belief (Shiaism), be sarcstic towards other and call others all sorts.

I don't see you saying a word or speaking out about this. Ebn Hussein is one of them. Have you seen his language and how he speaks about others and behaves towards them. There are others on this forum as well.

Where are your principals??? Where are your rules and regulations??? Come on, this is a one sided show. Nobody is interested here on a serious discussion or debate. Take a look at their behaviour and attitude and in response they claim they are looking for knowledgeable shias.

Please, give me a break!

If he was fifteen and became a Shia you would say "Wow you're wise beyond your age", common brother, we all know how this works.

Report any post you find containing any bad language. I've edited Ebn Hussein's newer posts, but I can't possibly read everything, you gotta help me out.
« Last Edit: January 07, 2015, 12:10:22 AM by Hani »
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

Ameen

Re: Why a 15 year old left Shiaism
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2015, 12:10:28 AM »
Ameen, please enlighten us all. How old are you?

What ever my age is, I don't humiliate and or insult others, I'm not sarcastic towards others, I do not call others by strange names, I do not take the mickey out of others, I do not pick on others, I do not bully others, I do not attack others or anyones faith or belief, I do not target others or their Aqeedah etc.

How brothers speak about and behave towards Shiaism and the Shias is absolutely clear. You, me and the rest, none of us is blind. And they are looking for knowledgeable Shias??? They go on other forums and challenge or invite them for discussion. LOL! Take a good look at their behaviour and attitude. 

Hani

Re: Why a 15 year old left Shiaism
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2015, 12:15:33 AM »
^ And that's why we like to have you here, as I said if anyone calls you names just report.
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

Ameen

Re: Why a 15 year old left Shiaism
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2015, 12:24:23 AM »
My dear brother Hani, I am not belittling anybody. 15/16 years of age is nothing. One still needs to learn a lot about life at this age.

As far as belittling is concerned, there are brothers on this forum who speak down on others, call other names, humiliate and insult others (Shias) and their belief (Shiaism), be sarcstic towards other and call others all sorts.

I don't see you saying a word or speaking out about this. Ebn Hussein is one of them. Have you seen his language and how he speaks about others and behaves towards them. There are others on this forum as well.

Where are your principals??? Where are your rules and regulations??? Come on, this is a one sided show. Nobody is interested here on a serious discussion or debate. Take a look at their behaviour and attitude and in response they claim they are looking for knowledgeable shias.

Please, give me a break!

If he was fifteen and became a Shia you would say "Wow you're wise beyond your age", common brother, we all know how this works.

Report any post you find containing any bad language. I've edited Ebn Hussein's newer posts, but I can't possibly read everything, you gotta help me out.

My dear brother, firstly you don't know others and secondly you don't give anyone a chance. It's like you have already made up your mind about others and you have already labelled them.

Brother it doesn't matter whether you are a Shia or Sunni, the age of 15/16 is a very young age. If someone is a Sunni and has turned towards Shiaism at this age, I wil say exactly the same.

Brother we are Muslims but vast majority are by birth, not by education and research. And the same goes for sects, be it Shia, Sunni or anything else. Your are what you are and where you are born in. This is what is common but switching here to their and not putting a genuine reason forward but just slagging the other or previous off, tells a lot about you.

Hani

Re: Why a 15 year old left Shiaism
« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2015, 12:27:13 AM »
Well anyway, if there's anything we can help you with, let us know.
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

Taha

Re: Why a 15 year old left Shiaism
« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2015, 04:45:56 AM »

Brother it doesn't matter whether you are a Shia or Sunni, the age of 15/16 is a very young age. If someone is a Sunni and has turned towards Shiaism at this age, I wil say exactly the same.
I became a Shia at age 17.  Was that too young or nah?

 

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