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Rationalist

Re: Houthis Take Over Yemen
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2015, 08:31:41 PM »

What Shia countries are there apart from Iran?  There's Lebanon (which is hell because of the Sunni terrorists and Israel) and Iraqi (which is also hell thanks to the Sunni ISIS).
As if Iraq was stable before ISIS. The Iraqi 12ers love to blame everything on Sunnis. Its gives them more milage for their emotional madhab. To be honest, Iraq was in better shape under the rule of  the tyrant Saddam. Ask any 12er who lives in Iraq if Maliki made any progress. Most of them admit that the 12er Shia government looted the Iraqi people, and used the Sunni/Shia divide to distract the public from the real economic issues. As for ISIS they only entered with 800 troops and they forced 30,000 `12er Shia military troops to flee. Why because the commanders forced them too, so Iran gets to come in and have greater influence in Iraq. Guess what ? Now a game of chess is being played where neither side wins. In the end, Iraq is going to be most likely split into three.
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Rationalist

Re: Houthis Take Over Yemen
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2015, 08:33:27 PM »
Houthis are Zaydi Shia and they are regarded as peaceful and all that good stuff.  They're also kinda hybrids between Sunni and Shia.

They'll turn Yemen into a hell-hole and kill anyone who opposes them. Houthis are pure Rafidah not "hybrids".
If they sideline the Sunnis they will divide Yemen into two. Let's hope they are not that stupid.

Rationalist

Re: Houthis Take Over Yemen
« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2015, 08:35:35 PM »
This is what Yemen could look like.


Rationalist

Re: Houthis Take Over Yemen
« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2015, 08:45:13 PM »
Wait, so the Houthis aren't regular Zaydis now?  What happened?  Can you show some evidence?

I thought they were very tolerant Zaydis.

The earlier Zaidi believed that Imam Ali's (as) was appointment was implicit. Now they believe its explicit like the 12ers.
The earlier Zaidi used to defend the Sahaba, but now this Houthi group applies the concept of Wuquf toward the Sahaba.

Ameen

Re: Houthis Take Over Yemen
« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2015, 12:57:24 AM »
So what are these Sunni Arab states doing now??? They pay the American and British fleet to look after them, they do business with the west, basically they just keep themselves on the right side of the west and don't do anything to upset and disappoint them.

What is the approach of these Sunni Arab states regarding Israel??? If the west decides to use some excuse to move in and take over the natural resources of an Arab country then, what do the rest of the Arab states do??? Iran this and Iran that, come on gentlemen, balance the argument!

Hani

Re: Houthis Take Over Yemen
« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2015, 01:13:47 AM »
So what are these Sunni Arab states doing now??? They pay the American and British fleet to look after them, they do business with the west, basically they just keep themselves on the right side of the west and don't do anything to upset and disappoint them.

What is the approach of these Sunni Arab states regarding Israel??? If the west decides to use some excuse to move in and take over the natural resources of an Arab country then, what do the rest of the Arab states do??? Iran this and Iran that, come on gentlemen, balance the argument!

What are the Shiite states doing? What is Azerbaijan doing? `Iraq? What has Iran ever actually done except "talk"?

We believe all governments are corrupt and don't really represent the will of their people regardless of sect.
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

Ameen

Re: Houthis Take Over Yemen
« Reply #26 on: January 26, 2015, 01:53:12 AM »
Well brother Hani, talking means speaking out and that is the first step that Iran has always done. The list is endless about Iranian achievements concerning unity amongst Muslims and speaking out and in defence of Islam, the Prophet (pbuh) and Muslim suffering.

When the Bosnian Muslims were suffering Iranians went to their aid, it was Iran who issued a Fatwa against Rushdie in protection and defence of Azwaj e Rasool and broke diplomatic ties with the west. And like I said that the list is endless.

But it's obvious that your grievance with Shiaism doesn't make you think straight and fair about Iran. And what are the Arab states doing??? Have they ever bothered to join Iran in matters of collective interest concerning Islam and the Muslims??? Have these states even bothered to talk and speak out???

And you have the nerve to say that "what does Iran do apart from talking". What the hell can one country do when the others are hand in hand with the west. Come on man, just a little bit of justice and fairness won't hurt, will it???

Taha

Re: Houthis Take Over Yemen
« Reply #27 on: January 26, 2015, 02:20:11 AM »
^ To be fair, Egypt did have a decent ruler until ... Well, all the Sunni Egyptians protested and overwhelmingly voted to replace him with Sisi.

Hani

Re: Houthis Take Over Yemen
« Reply #28 on: January 26, 2015, 02:22:16 AM »
Well brother Hani, talking means speaking out and that is the first step that Iran has always done. The list is endless about Iranian achievements concerning unity amongst Muslims and speaking out and in defence of Islam, the Prophet (pbuh) and Muslim suffering.

When the Bosnian Muslims were suffering Iranians went to their aid, it was Iran who issued a Fatwa against Rushdie in protection and defence of Azwaj e Rasool and broke diplomatic ties with the west. And like I said that the list is endless.

But it's obvious that your grievance with Shiaism doesn't make you think straight and fair about Iran. And what are the Arab states doing??? Have they ever bothered to join Iran in matters of collective interest concerning Islam and the Muslims??? Have these states even bothered to talk and speak out???

And you have the nerve to say that "what does Iran do apart from talking". What the hell can one country do when the others are hand in hand with the west. Come on man, just a little bit of justice and fairness won't hurt, will it???

I think VERY straight and Iran is a fraud state run by Mullas. You keep listening to your fraud news and see where that takes you.
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

Hani

Re: Houthis Take Over Yemen
« Reply #29 on: January 26, 2015, 02:40:32 AM »
Just to not waste a lot of time and show a sample of their hypocrisy and that they're frauds, the Iranians always accused the king of Saudi of funding terrorism and of being a devil and of being a cursed ally to the enemies of Islam etc...

Then when he dies, Hashimi Rafsanjani says:

أعزي السعودية حكومة وشعبا بوفاة الملك عبدالله وابتهل إلى الله عز وجل أن يتغمد الفقيد بواسع رحمته ويلهم ذويه والأسرة الكريمة الصبر والسلوان

"I send my condolences to both the government and people of Saudi for the passing of king `Abdullah, I sincerely pray to Almighty Allah to encompass the dearly missed (leader) with his vast mercy, and to grant patience to his honorable family members."

Link: http://arabic.cnn.com/middleeast/2015/01/24/iran-king-abdullah-death-reaction
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

Ebn Hussein

Re: Houthis Take Over Yemen
« Reply #30 on: January 26, 2015, 08:43:08 AM »
Zaydis are divided into sub-sects. The Houthis are from the Jarudiyyah sect (who ironically is a narrator in Rafidi Imamite Shiism). Jarudiyyah Zaydis are the most extreme Zaydis, yes like all Zaydis they do not believe in the fairy tale of 12th particular Imams (that is why the likes of Yasser Al-Habib declared them as kuffar!) they dislike many Sahaba - in particular Abu Bakr and Omar - a lot and they are only to be found in north Yemen. Now these lunatics - who are literally cave man, here a clip where they take a shit LIVE on air (on their OWN satellite channel called Al-Maseer:



... are in their generality still Zaydis, however the Safavid-Zionist devil aka Iran, spirituality the most messed up country in the middle east (Iranian Shias are notorious for Arab hatred, secular thoughts, and the abondening of Islam altogether!)

... has turned the heads of the Zaydis into Twelvers.  Iran Al Majoosiyyah took advantage of their already existing extremism and started infiltrating them and luring them into their sect just like Evangelical missionaries do to the poor around the world. Eventually the leader of the Houthis, Badr Al Deen (1926-2010) paved the way for a even more extremist form of Shiism amoungst the Houthis. He had close ties with the 12er Rafidah in Iran, his son Hussein (1956-2004) even lived and studied in Qom, Iran, the modern capital of Twelver Shiism. After the demise of Hussein, Abdul-Malik [Al Houthi] became the new leader of the Houthi clan and today it is known to everybody that the Houthis are nothing but a proxy of the Majoos of Iran who despise the Arabs to death, yet use the likes of Hezbollat (Lebanese Arabs) and the Houthi (who also operate under the name "Ansarullah") Arabs as their minions for their own agenda.

The Houthis are northern Yemenis, it is well known that the vast majority of Houthis are still Zaydis, that is why many Sunni laymen and even Shias (who don't know much about Yemen, Zaydis and Twelver Shia Rawafidh) are sometimes confused as to how serious their allegiance to Iran is. What many don't understand is that Yemen is a tribial state, the HEADS of the Houthis are all Rawafidh 12er Shias, the likes of Hussein Badr Al Deen has even studied in Qom, and this is the evil tactic of Iran and the 12er Rafida i.e. to steadily convert the ignorant Houthi masses into full blown Rawafidh Majoos 12er Shias (and obviously in a tribal society such as Yemen, it is just a matter of time till many if not most Houthis change from Zaydi Shia to Imamite Rafidi Shia). The Houthis even got their own TV channel (Al Maseer) and there are reports that they are being trained on Eritrean islands by the Iranian regime and their revolutionary corps.

As for Hussein Badr Al Deen, there are recording of him, where he openly accuses Sahaba such as Omar Ibn Al Khattab of being the worst sinner on earth, he says all the dilemma that this Ummah is facing is because of Omar Ibn Al-Khattab (retarded thing only Rafidis say):



(the clip contains a bunch of Houthis one dumber than the other. One says there is no such thing as Sahaba, only Ali! Nothing else. ALL Sahaba are liars he says. Literally a cave-man who doesn't even know what he's saying. These are the 'enlightened guided ones' according to the Rafidah! There is also an Ex-Houthi in the clip exposing them heavily)

Alhamdulillah the internet has exposed the Houthis in the Arab world but little do non-Arab speakers know about them.

The following video for example is the massive mazar/shrine of Badr Al Deen Al Houthi! Look how these heretics have already started exaggerating with their own leader who died just a decade ago by making Tawaf around his massive mausoleum, errected high in the sky, a waste of money and against the Sunnah of Rasul Allah and his Ahlul-Bayt! But don't be shocked, all the tyrants such as Ataturk, Khomeini etc. were buried in such wasteful anti-Islamic buildings, the people of kufr are but one nation after all.

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الإمام الشافعي رحمه الله
لم أر أحداً من أهل الأهواء أشهد بالزور من الرافضة! - الخطيب في الكفاية والسوطي.

Imam Al-Shafi3i - may Allah have mercy upon him - said: "I have not seen among the heretics a people more famous for falsehood than the Rafidah." [narrated by Al-Khatib Al-Baghdadi/Al-Kifayah]

Ebn Hussein

Re: Houthis Take Over Yemen
« Reply #31 on: January 26, 2015, 08:50:27 AM »
^ To be fair, Egypt did have a decent ruler until ... Well, all the Sunni Egyptians protested and overwhelmingly voted to replace him with Sisi.


This is an unjust accusation, far from the truth. Kuffar and Muslims alike know and testify that it was a revolution by the army supported by SECULARISTS and not orthodox Sunnis who in their majority voted for Mursi.
الإمام الشافعي رحمه الله
لم أر أحداً من أهل الأهواء أشهد بالزور من الرافضة! - الخطيب في الكفاية والسوطي.

Imam Al-Shafi3i - may Allah have mercy upon him - said: "I have not seen among the heretics a people more famous for falsehood than the Rafidah." [narrated by Al-Khatib Al-Baghdadi/Al-Kifayah]

Ameen

Re: Houthis Take Over Yemen
« Reply #32 on: January 26, 2015, 10:31:11 AM »
^ To be fair, Egypt did have a decent ruler until ... Well, all the Sunni Egyptians protested and overwhelmingly voted to replace him with Sisi.


This is an unjust accusation, far from the truth. Kuffar and Muslims alike know and testify that it was a revolution by the army supported by SECULARISTS and not orthodox Sunnis who in their majority voted for Mursi.

A revolution is brought about by the people. What is brought about by the army is marshal law.


Hani

Re: Houthis Take Over Yemen
« Reply #33 on: January 26, 2015, 02:03:57 PM »
It is marshal law in Egypt, Anyone who protests is shot and beaten by the army, anyone who criticizes Sisi is arrested, any TV channel inside Egypt that attacks Sisi is shut down immediately.
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

Rationalist

Re: Houthis Take Over Yemen
« Reply #34 on: January 26, 2015, 02:39:19 PM »
Well brother Hani, talking means speaking out and that is the first step that Iran has always done. The list is endless about Iranian achievements concerning unity amongst Muslims and speaking out and in defence of Islam, the Prophet (pbuh) and Muslim suffering.
What unity ? Iran doesn't even allow a Sunni mosque in Tehran, and they try to talk about unity.
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When the Bosnian Muslims were suffering Iranians went to their aid, it was Iran who issued a Fatwa against Rushdie in protection and defence of Azwaj e Rasool and broke diplomatic ties with the west. And like I said that the list is endless.
Why Bosnia or Palestine ? Iran couldn't even help their 12er Shia brothers in Bahrain and Pakistan. Yet, they want to go around the Sunni world and monopolize the emotions.
As for the Fatwa of Rushdie it no different than the fitna of Charlie Hebdo today. In fact, the Fatwa just made Muslims look extreme.

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But it's obvious that your grievance with Shiaism doesn't make you think straight and fair about Iran. And what are the Arab states doing??? Have they ever bothered to join Iran in matters of collective interest concerning Islam and the Muslims??? Have these states even bothered to talk and speak out???
If Sikhs and Jews are allowed their own place of worship, why can't Sunnis have their own place of worship.
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And you have the nerve to say that "what does Iran do apart from talking". What the hell can one country do when the others are hand in hand with the west. Come on man, just a little bit of justice and fairness won't hurt, will it???
This talk of Iran has made no progress for 12er Shia in Pakistan and Bahrain. Likewise the same case with the rulers who rule over the majority. They can't do anything.

Rationalist

Re: Houthis Take Over Yemen
« Reply #35 on: January 26, 2015, 02:41:54 PM »
^ To be fair, Egypt did have a decent ruler until ... Well, all the Sunni Egyptians protested and overwhelmingly voted to replace him with Sisi.


Yah sure. The foolish man Morsi comes in power and blames all the historical problems on the Shias. Then the people go around and unjustly kill Shehata.

Furkan

Re: Houthis Take Over Yemen
« Reply #36 on: January 26, 2015, 02:55:29 PM »
Ebn Hussein, you are too funny haha. The way you describe these houthis, LOL.
Before Qazî Mihemed, President of the first kurdish Republic Mahabad was hanged the iranian judge asked:

“last words?”

Qazî: “I thank Allah: even in death he put my shoes above your heads”

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Re: Houthis Take Over Yemen
« Reply #37 on: January 26, 2015, 04:04:15 PM »

Yah sure. The foolish man Morsi comes in power and blames all the historical problems on the Shias. Then the people go around and unjustly kill Shehata.

Absolute nonsense!

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Hani

Re: Houthis Take Over Yemen
« Reply #38 on: January 26, 2015, 11:41:29 PM »
Iran has been building nuclear power for centuries hasn't it  ;D


عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

Ameen

Re: Houthis Take Over Yemen
« Reply #39 on: January 27, 2015, 04:02:10 PM »
Iran has been building nuclear power for centuries hasn't it  ;D




Yes and Arab states as well as anti Shias are getting multiple heart attacks over this. Just one Shia dominant governement and country and we can't stand this. We simply can't digest this. We're constantly falling in and out over this.





 

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