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Title: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: Adil on January 05, 2020, 11:29:01 AM
https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1213631435573284864?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1213631435573284864&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2F2%2Ftwitter.min.html%231213631435573284864

Did they curse the first three rashidun in that banner? I can't translate the non-arabic parts. But someone said they did.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENevQkiXYAIyQfQ.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: Bolani Muslim on January 05, 2020, 12:57:11 PM
Yes, it is a snippet from Ziyarat Ashura where it says "May Allah curse the first, second, and third." I hope the Sunnis reading this realize the blatant hatred for the Companions (r). This is how common it is to curse our beloveds in their culture.
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: Adil on January 05, 2020, 02:10:49 PM
Yes, it is a snippet from Ziyarat Ashura where it says "May Allah curse the first, second, and third." I hope the Sunnis reading this realize the blatant hatred for the Companions (r). This is how common it is to curse our beloveds in their culture.

Thanks for the confirmation. Now I can share it elsewhere.
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: Mythbuster1 on January 05, 2020, 02:12:41 PM
LOL as if sahaba ra had anything to do with the blowing up of Suleimani honestly these are dumb shiites.
Always have said and always will shiism is a joke stuck in the past millennia.

As if hacking will satisfy them, they can only do that with the help of another famous fake news bull hacker........mother Russia😂😂😂
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: Shia not Rafidi on January 05, 2020, 07:57:53 PM
Yes, it is a snippet from Ziyarat Ashura where it says "May Allah curse the first, second, and third." I hope the Sunnis reading this realize the blatant hatred for the Companions (r). This is how common it is to curse our beloveds in their culture.
it also says "Wa-Rabiyu" (And the fourth one).. what does that mean
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: Shia not Rafidi on January 05, 2020, 08:04:39 PM
https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1213631435573284864?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1213631435573284864&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2F2%2Ftwitter.min.html%231213631435573284864

Did they curse the first three rashidun in that banner? I can't translate the non-arabic parts. But someone said they did.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENevQkiXYAIyQfQ.jpg:large)
i wonder why didn't they add "Aal-e-Saud" in their curse list lol.. gotta be scared of em eh 😜
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: Rationalist on January 05, 2020, 09:08:17 PM
Yes, it is a snippet from Ziyarat Ashura where it says "May Allah curse the first, second, and third." I hope the Sunnis reading this realize the blatant hatred for the Companions (r). This is how common it is to curse our beloveds in their culture.

I am sure iceman will reply back by asking "how do you know it is referring to the Sahaba? Iran loves Sunnis very much."
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: Adil on January 06, 2020, 02:35:54 AM
it also says "Wa-Rabiyu" (And the fourth one).. what does that mean

Yes, it is a snippet from Ziyarat Ashura where it says "May Allah curse the first, second, and third." I hope the Sunnis reading this realize the blatant hatred for the Companions (r). This is how common it is to curse our beloveds in their culture.

A shia on reddit replied to me with the following:

Quote
There's no actual proof though that the first, second and third is Caliph 1 , 2 and 3.

It is not mentioned in a any reputable hadith that who are the first, then the second, the third and the fourth in Ziyarat Ashura. In fact it is as it is. It is not defined and no one can say certainly who they mean in this hadith.

Shaykh Tusi in his book Al-Istibsar (the fourth important book of Shi'a Islamic Hadith) has said that the first means the son of Adam who murdered his pious brother. The second is Qeydar who hamstrung and murdered the Camel of God and the 3th is who murdered prophet Yahya Ibn Zakariya a.s. (John the Baptistwho is mentioned in different verses of Quran like 6:85 and 19:12) and the 4th is Ibn Muljam who murdered Imam Ali a.s.while Imam was at prayer (Ibn Muljam is called the most wretched human in different Ahadeeth). But this opinion of Shaykh Tusi and not narrated as a hadith.


We might be wrong here? But the fourth could also mean Muwiayah. And other lines in ziarat ashura are pretty clear on who the first is such as " O my Allah condemn and damn the first tyrant who unjustly and wrongfully usurped that which rightly belonged to Mohammad and the children of Mohammad, and bring curse upon those who, after him, followed in his footsteps." .
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: Rationalist on January 06, 2020, 02:51:26 AM
That's a taqiyyah response. The good news is they believe the 12th Imam will abolish taqiyyah.
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: Adil on January 06, 2020, 02:55:00 AM
That's a taqiyyah response. The good news is they believe the 12th Imam will abolish taqiyyah.

I see. I went and read more of their dua so it's more clear to me now. This part of it gives it away:

"O Allah, pour special curses on the foremost persecutor

and begin with him first,

and then pour curses on the second, the third, and the fourth.

O Allah, curse Yaz¢d fifthly,

and curse `Ubaydull¡h ibn Ziy¡d, the son of Marjanah,

`Umar ibn Sa`d, Shimr,

the family of Aba-Sufyan, the family of Ziyad, and the family of Marwan

up to the Resurrection Day."
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: iceman on January 06, 2020, 03:28:53 AM
https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1213631435573284864?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1213631435573284864&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2F2%2Ftwitter.min.html%231213631435573284864

Did they curse the first three rashidun in that banner? I can't translate the non-arabic parts. But someone said they did.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENevQkiXYAIyQfQ.jpg:large)

Why is it giving you motions 😊
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: Adil on January 06, 2020, 08:58:10 AM
Why is it giving you motions 😊

Not at all man. Things like this are quite useful. Can use it as evidence to show shiaism's hate for sahaba.
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: Adil on January 07, 2020, 03:02:44 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/shia/comments/ekw19t/do_shia_consider_muawiyah_as_the_4th_caliphate/

Well they shot themselves in the foot pretty quickly. Went from outright denial/feigned ignorance on one thread to straight out acceptance on another thread.
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: Anti_Shia_313 on January 07, 2020, 05:32:38 AM
This is the Iranian expansion when push comes to shove

All that "no cursing sahaba" is a bunch of lies to garner the support of ignorant sunnis with genuine concern for Palestine

Soleimani was the commander of the Quds force, whose official goal was to free Jerusalem. As far as I know, he never step foot in Palestine
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: Rationalist on January 07, 2020, 06:41:47 AM
This is the Iranian expansion when push comes to shove

All that "no cursing sahaba" is a bunch of lies to garner the support of ignorant sunnis with genuine concern for Palestine

Soleimani was the commander of the Quds force, whose official goal was to free Jerusalem. As far as I know, he never step foot in Palestine

Iran goal against the West and Israel was always more defensive. In another words if you come into their land, they will push them out and leave it at that. However, if  an opportunity came against Sunnis, they would naturally become zealous and take it full joy. However, Trump changed the whole game. Now Iran is stuck. It very difficult to predict what Iran would do next.
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: Shia not Rafidi on January 07, 2020, 08:56:35 PM
A shia on reddit replied to me with the following:

There's no actual proof though that the first, second and third is Caliph 1 , 2 and 3.

It is not mentioned in a any reputable hadith that who are the first, then the second, the third and the fourth in Ziyarat Ashura. In fact it is as it is. It is not defined and no one can say certainly who they mean in this hadith.
Shaykh Tusi in his book Al-Istibsar (the fourth important book of Shi'a Islamic Hadith) has said that the first means the son of Adam who murdered his pious brother. The second is Qeydar who hamstrung and murdered the Camel of God and the 3th is who murdered prophet Yahya Ibn Zakariya a.s. (John the Baptistwho is mentioned in different verses of Quran like 6:85 and 19:12) and the 4th is Ibn Muljam who murdered Imam Ali a.s.while Imam was at prayer (Ibn Muljam is called the most wretched human in different Ahadeeth). But this opinion of Shaykh Tusi and not narrated as a hadith.
O Allah I seek your refuge from this Hypocrisy and Taqiyah.. we can clearly see that he's just brushing the fact that Shia indeed refer to Abu Bakr RA, Umar RA, Usman RA as 1,2 and 3 under the carpet and trying to sugar coat it so that layman sunnis won't get away from them..
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: iceman on January 08, 2020, 01:55:37 AM
Not at all man. Things like this are quite useful. Can use it as evidence to show shiaism's hate for sahaba.

shiaism's hate for sahaba? What, Shias hate Sahaba? I can tell you worse. Sunnis accuse Sahaba of apostasy. 😊 How does that sound? What do you make of that 😊 We can play at this too 😊
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: iceman on January 08, 2020, 01:58:22 AM
O Allah I seek your refuge from this Hypocrisy and Taqiyah.. we can clearly see that he's just brushing the fact that Shia indeed refer to Abu Bakr RA, Umar RA, Usman RA as 1,2 and 3 under the carpet and trying to sugar coat it so that layman sunnis won't get away from them..

"O Allah I seek your refuge from this Hypocrisy and Taqiyah"

Don't get too emotional. Grab a hanky.

"we can clearly see that he's just brushing the fact"

Don't try to force your opinion on others.
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: iceman on January 08, 2020, 02:09:32 AM
Iran goal against the West and Israel was always more defensive. In another words if you come into their land, they will push them out and leave it at that. However, if  an opportunity came against Sunnis, they would naturally become zealous and take it full joy. However, Trump changed the whole game. Now Iran is stuck. It very difficult to predict what Iran would do next.

First "Iran is stuck" then "It very difficult to predict what Iran would do next" doesn't sound like Iran is stuck if it's difficult to predict. If I was Iran I would look at my position and situation. The Muslim world sees me differently. I've been looked at and treated differently and separately since the revolution. I'm surrounded by Munafiqs who are worse than my kafir enemies. I wouldn't be straightforward and hasty. Neither would I remain silent and be pushed around. I would play my cards right.

Those who are sly and crafty, be clever and smart with them. I would definitely play it under politics and diplomacy. I would strengthen my ties with the Russians and other Shias within the region. Trump dishonored the Nuclear dear. The Europeans aren't happy with Trump doing that. I would definitely use that to my advantage.

The Strait of Hormuz is a strait between the Persian Gulf and the Gulf of Oman. It provides the only sea passage from the Persian Gulf to the open ocean and is one of the world's most strategically important choke points. Ah, STRAIT OF HORMUZ. Those who make life difficult for me I would definitely find ways of making life difficult for them but by keeping my nose and hands clean as well.
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: iceman on January 08, 2020, 02:21:46 AM
i wonder why didn't they add "Aal-e-Saud" in their curse list lol.. gotta be scared of em eh 😜

I don't know about being scared of Aal e Saud, but Aal e Saud were definitely scared of Saddam when he invaded Kuwait. They begged the Americans to help them 😆 The other Gulf states either have the Americans or the British regiments on their shores to protect their you know what. They can't do it themselves. 😆
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: iceman on January 08, 2020, 02:26:11 AM
This is the Iranian expansion when push comes to shove

All that "no cursing sahaba" is a bunch of lies to garner the support of ignorant sunnis with genuine concern for Palestine

Soleimani was the commander of the Quds force, whose official goal was to free Jerusalem. As far as I know, he never step foot in Palestine

Free Jerusalem. Do you think the Arabs could do that 😆 They're all Sunni Arabs. They tried but got fried. 😆 Then finally started to accept Israel 😆 Look who's talking.
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: Mythbuster1 on January 08, 2020, 03:13:25 PM
Free Jerusalem. Do you think the Arabs could do that 😆 They're all Sunni Arabs. They tried but got fried. 😆 Then finally started to accept Israel 😆 Look who's talking.

I didn’t see Iran helping the arabs when they was fighting Israel 😂
Only now they come in because they need support and alliances to prop up the regime, yet they can only do it by proxy😂

When did Iran ever say they are gonna help the Palestinians and will send forces to Israel???

Arab Sunnis did whether they won or lost they went to war........Iran has never been to war apart from Iraq!!!
The Shias are only good at fighting other Muslims, it’s a known fact😜

A useless country with useless leaders dare I say followed by dimwits😂
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: iceman on January 09, 2020, 02:23:53 AM
I didn’t see Iran helping the arabs when they was fighting Israel 😂
Only now they come in because they need support and alliances to prop up the regime, yet they can only do it by proxy😂

When did Iran ever say they are gonna help the Palestinians and will send forces to Israel???

Arab Sunnis did whether they won or lost they went to war........Iran has never been to war apart from Iraq!!!
The Shias are only good at fighting other Muslims, it’s a known fact😜

A useless country with useless leaders dare I say followed by dimwits😂

"I didn’t see Iran helping the arabs when they was fighting Israel 😂"

Were the Ayatollahs governing Iran when the Arabs fought Israel 😊 Pull the other one 😀

"Only now they come in because they need support and alliances to prop up the regime, yet they can only do it by proxy😂"

What can be done by other means available you must be really stupid to do it yourself. 😀 Apart from sanctions they can't touch Iran. They won't touch Iran. The consequences will be too drastic for the West. The pals of the West the Arab puppets will fry first. The West knows that.

"Iran has never been to war apart from Iraq!!!"

You're telling me an eight year war with Iraq and iraq being fully backed by the international community along with Arab friends is no experience for Iran. 😀😁 Pull the other one. Show me one Sunni governed country that can survive on its own through sanctions and everything like Iran. Show me one Sunni governed country that can go toe to toe with Iran. 😊 Forget about Iran, show me one Sunni governed country that can rely on its own about its defense 😀 You make me laugh 😃
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: Mythbuster1 on January 09, 2020, 06:45:16 PM
"I didn’t see Iran helping the arabs when they was fighting Israel 😂"

Were the Ayatollahs governing Iran when the Arabs fought Israel 😊 Pull the other one 😀

"Only now they come in because they need support and alliances to prop up the regime, yet they can only do it by proxy😂"

What can be done by other means available you must be really stupid to do it yourself. 😀 Apart from sanctions they can't touch Iran. They won't touch Iran. The consequences will be too drastic for the West. The pals of the West the Arab puppets will fry first. The West knows that.

"Iran has never been to war apart from Iraq!!!"

You're telling me an eight year war with Iraq and iraq being fully backed by the international community along with Arab friends is no experience for Iran. 😀😁 Pull the other one. Show me one Sunni governed country that can survive on its own through sanctions and everything like Iran. Show me one Sunni governed country that can go toe to toe with Iran. 😊 Forget about Iran, show me one Sunni governed country that can rely on its own about its defense 😀 You make me laugh 😃

Yea true the ayatollahs are your men in charge i forgot your defending SHIITE Iran and not Iran itself😂

Iran is a shit hole country with no power whatsoever 😂😂😂

Americans have just killed the top Shiite general of the divine Imamate 12’r country SUPPOSEDLY ruling by Islamic law taught on by divine imams and............you shoot blank missiles????
Come on forget whataboutery you cannot even handle this yet😂😂

PAKISTAN
Alhamdulillah it can survive on its own and has done it was us who built the first Islamic nuke as and didn’t worry about consequences, we build our own weapons we build our own planes we are the ONLY ISLAMIC country who defied the sanctions and ire of the west to build a nuclear bomb to the point where Israel is working closely with India trying to figure out where our nukes are so they can perform their covert attacks.
Iran is NEGOTIATING about nuclear power and not bombs for if they EVER built one they would be annihilated, maybe they will build one now but it will be their worst choice.
So get your head out of Iran’s Arse 😂
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: Adil on January 10, 2020, 12:48:05 PM
Sometimes youd think ice man is an Iranian loyalist and not a pakistani.
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: iceman on January 10, 2020, 02:34:17 PM
Sometimes youd think ice man is an Iranian loyalist and not a pakistani.

I'm not a loyalist or a propagandist. I'm just a neutral person who goes by facts 😊 It's you lot on here who can't think and speak away and beyond either loyalty or propaganda 😊
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: Mythbuster1 on January 10, 2020, 02:59:04 PM
Sometimes youd think ice man is an Iranian loyalist and not a pakistani.

He is, the guy won’t listen to anything bad about Iran but will criticise Pakistan.
If Iran instigated war with Pakistan he would side with Iran and when people retaliate against traitors he will say we shia are being killed.
He is a stupid kid who only talks big online.😂
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: iceman on January 10, 2020, 04:17:19 PM
Yea true the ayatollahs are your men in charge i forgot your defending SHIITE Iran and not Iran itself😂

Iran is a shit hole country with no power whatsoever 😂😂😂

Americans have just killed the top Shiite general of the divine Imamate 12’r country SUPPOSEDLY ruling by Islamic law taught on by divine imams and............you shoot blank missiles????
Come on forget whataboutery you cannot even handle this yet😂😂

PAKISTAN
Alhamdulillah it can survive on its own and has done it was us who built the first Islamic nuke as and didn’t worry about consequences, we build our own weapons we build our own planes we are the ONLY ISLAMIC country who defied the sanctions and ire of the west to build a nuclear bomb to the point where Israel is working closely with India trying to figure out where our nukes are so they can perform their covert attacks.
Iran is NEGOTIATING about nuclear power and not bombs for if they EVER built one they would be annihilated, maybe they will build one now but it will be their worst choice.
So get your head out of Iran’s Arse 😂
Yea true the ayatollahs are your men in charge i forgot your defending SHIITE Iran and not Iran itself😂"

There is no such thing as my men. That's how you think and go by. So that's how you see, take and judge others. I'm not defending anyone neither am I against anyone. That's how you are. And it's obvious that's how you will see and take.

"Iran is a shit hole country with no power whatsoever 😂😂😂"

See what I mean "Iran is a shit hole country" the words you use show absolute hatred. So that's how you will see and take. Anything that's too much (love, hate, anger, loyalty etc) will make you blind and will stop you from rational thinking.

If Iran was a country with no power then how are they an influence to others within the region. Secondly why didn't the Americans just say to Iran to hand over Qasim Soleimani, because they believe he was responsible for the killings of alot of Americans, or we will go to war with you. Why didn't the Americans do exactly what and how they did with the government of Afghanistan over Osama bin Laden? The Americans believed that Osama bin Laden was the mastermind behind the 9/11 attacks that killed many Americans as well as others. Why didn't America just wait for the opportunity and take out bin Laden like they took out Qasim Soleimani?

" Americans have just killed the top Shiite general of the divine Imamate 12’r country SUPPOSEDLY ruling by Islamic"

Why didn't the Americans put a demand forward to the Iranian government to handover Qasim Soleimani or we will go to war with you just as they did to the government of Afghanistan over Osama bin Laden? 😊
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: Adil on January 10, 2020, 05:20:40 PM
He is, the guy won’t listen to anything bad about Iran but will criticise Pakistan.
If Iran instigated war with Pakistan he would side with Iran and when people retaliate against traitors he will say we shia are being killed.
He is a stupid kid who only talks big online.😂

It's unfortunate but the bold party is probably true.
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: iceman on January 10, 2020, 05:29:54 PM
He is, the guy won’t listen to anything bad about Iran but will criticise Pakistan.
If Iran instigated war with Pakistan he would side with Iran and when people retaliate against traitors he will say we shia are being killed.
He is a stupid kid who only talks big online.😂

"He is, the guy won’t listen to anything bad about Iran"

Let me show you the mirror, you are a person who has never and will never say anything positive and constructive, anything good and right about Iran, Shiaism or the Shias 😊 How do you like seeing yourself in the mirror 😆

"If Iran instigated war with Pakistan he would side with Iran"

😊 This is exactly your problem that you speak regardless of facts and the truth. Because you ain't interested in facts nor do you bother to learn about the truth.

"he would side: I don't side or believe in taking sides. Nor am I against or believe in being against. You see and take as you are. That's your problem.

"He is a stupid kid who only talks big"

You are a very immature and extremely naive. 😊
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: Mythbuster1 on January 10, 2020, 07:14:02 PM
Yea true the ayatollahs are your men in charge i forgot your defending SHIITE Iran and not Iran itself😂"

There is no such thing as my men. That's how you think and go by. So that's how you see, take and judge others. I'm not defending anyone neither am I against anyone. That's how you are. And it's obvious that's how you will see and take.

"Iran is a shit hole country with no power whatsoever 😂😂😂"

See what I mean "Iran is a shit hole country" the words you use show absolute hatred. So that's how you will see and take. Anything that's too much (love, hate, anger, loyalty etc) will make you blind and will stop you from rational thinking.

If Iran was a country with no power then how are they an influence to others within the region. Secondly why didn't the Americans just say to Iran to hand over Qasim Soleimani, because they believe he was responsible for the killings of alot of Americans, or we will go to war with you. Why didn't the Americans do exactly what and how they did with the government of Afghanistan over Osama bin Laden? The Americans believed that Osama bin Laden was the mastermind behind the 9/11 attacks that killed many Americans as well as others. Why didn't America just wait for the opportunity and take out bin Laden like they took out Qasim Soleimani?

" Americans have just killed the top Shiite general of the divine Imamate 12’r country SUPPOSEDLY ruling by Islamic"

Why didn't the Americans put a demand forward to the Iranian government to handover Qasim Soleimani or we will go to war with you just as they did to the government of Afghanistan over Osama bin Laden? 😊

You say Your “kind”, I say your men, how does it feel looking in the mirror?😂

It is a shithole country especially with policies and governance of the regime it’s not hard to see why it is so.

What about this what about that, it’s all whataboutery kid, the fact is they took a general out who was the second most influential in Iran in the friendly country of Iraq, what was the great Shiite nations response?🤔
All hot air😂

Iran and Their influence? Who do they influence? You tell us, apart from Iraq and Syria who do they influence, do let us know.
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: Mythbuster1 on January 10, 2020, 07:29:38 PM
"He is, the guy won’t listen to anything bad about Iran"

Let me show you the mirror, you are a person who has never and will never say anything positive and constructive, anything good and right about Iran, Shiaism or the Shias 😊 How do you like seeing yourself in the mirror 😆

"If Iran instigated war with Pakistan he would side with Iran"

😊 This is exactly your problem that you speak regardless of facts and the truth. Because you ain't interested in facts nor do you bother to learn about the truth.

"he would side: I don't side or believe in taking sides. Nor am I against or believe in being against. You see and take as you are. That's your problem.

"He is a stupid kid who only talks big"

You are a very immature and extremely naive. 😊

It’s was a hypothetical question, I said IF Iran INSTIGATED a war, yet you answer as if it was lies being spread about Iran??

It’s a fictional scenario........kid 😜


Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: iceman on January 11, 2020, 12:47:53 AM
You say Your “kind”, I say your men, how does it feel looking in the mirror?😂

It is a shithole country especially with policies and governance of the regime it’s not hard to see why it is so.

What about this what about that, it’s all whataboutery kid, the fact is they took a general out who was the second most influential in Iran in the friendly country of Iraq, what was the great Shiite nations response?🤔
All hot air😂

Iran and Their influence? Who do they influence? You tell us, apart from Iraq and Syria who do they influence, do let us know.

"You say Your “kind”, I say your men, how does it feel looking in the mirror?😂"

You tell me, I've just shown you the mirror 😀😁😃😅😂


"It is a shithole country especially with policies and governance of the regime it’s not hard to see why it is so"

Not to the people who live there. Who's asking you to live there 😆 That's your opinion which is equal to you know what 😆

"What about this what about that, it’s all whataboutery kid,"

You can't answer nor address anything 😆

"the fact is they took a general out"

The fact also is Trump is being impeached. The elections are near. We all know why he all of a sudden did it. Electoral stunt. If Trump had the courage he could have asked him to be handed over or else.... just as he threatened to your Afghan Taliban government. But he didn't.

Iran retaliated. Trump backed off. And you come out with ifs and buts over the retaliation. Trumps statement was "If Iran retaliates then we have 52 sites which we will target including cultural" Well Iran retaliated, and Trump? He was wise not to take it further. Why? Because there were no intentions what so ever to take it further to begin with. It was just an electoral stunt and to move the media attention away from him and his scandalous admin.

"what was the great Shiite nations response?"

You're sooooo obsessed with Shiaism 😆 Smart move by Iran. Played it safe. You have no idea about politics, dynamics and diplomacy. You don't know about long term objective and planning. 😆

"who do they influence, do let us know"

You tell me. You're the one who's so obsessed that you can't stop mentioning and talking about them 😆

You can't answer or addressing anything child. You're just baby talk.😆 Why didn’t they take Osama bin Laden out rather than threatening the Afghan government. And then blowing the Afghan government straight out of the window. Remember how the Americans reacted towards the Taliban government over Osama 😆
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: Mythbuster1 on January 11, 2020, 10:04:30 AM
"You say Your “kind”, I say your men, how does it feel looking in the mirror?😂"

You tell me, I've just shown you the mirror 😀😁😃😅😂


"It is a shithole country especially with policies and governance of the regime it’s not hard to see why it is so"

Not to the people who live there. Who's asking you to live there 😆 That's your opinion which is equal to you know what 😆

"What about this what about that, it’s all whataboutery kid,"

You can't answer nor address anything 😆

"the fact is they took a general out"

The fact also is Trump is being impeached. The elections are near. We all know why he all of a sudden did it. Electoral stunt. If Trump had the courage he could have asked him to be handed over or else.... just as he threatened to your Afghan Taliban government. But he didn't.

Iran retaliated. Trump backed off. And you come out with ifs and buts over the retaliation. Trumps statement was "If Iran retaliates then we have 52 sites which we will target including cultural" Well Iran retaliated, and Trump? He was wise not to take it further. Why? Because there were no intentions what so ever to take it further to begin with. It was just an electoral stunt and to move the media attention away from him and his scandalous admin.

"what was the great Shiite nations response?"

You're sooooo obsessed with Shiaism 😆 Smart move by Iran. Played it safe. You have no idea about politics, dynamics and diplomacy. You don't know about long term objective and planning. 😆

"who do they influence, do let us know"

You tell me. You're the one who's so obsessed that you can't stop mentioning and talking about them 😆

You can't answer or addressing anything child. You're just baby talk.😆 Why didn’t they take Osama bin Laden out rather than threatening the Afghan government. And then blowing the Afghan government straight out of the window. Remember how the Americans reacted towards the Taliban government over Osama 😆


I gave you the mirror back to REFLECT on yourself........but you are a dimwit, sorry can’t help you there😜

You seem to be bothered about my opinions hence you keep answering.....lol😂

Oh....right.....MY Taliban government?? My kind?? Then you start crying if we call it “your men” ??
Hypocrite!!

Electoral stunt or any other stunt fact is.......A general got took out and Iran said it will retaliate but it’s retaliation was more like a wrist slap......that’s all I’m saying, no need to go in a frenzy😂

You are a seasoned diplomat you have history in politics and dynamics you know long term objective and planning.........hence your denial of Iran doing anything wrong because it will ruin your political stance and the bs history of Iran which you have a romanticised great shia relationship with........it’s your only strongest Shiite nation......we get it kid😜👍

I told you, are you intentionally playing dumb? Scroll up a few posts I don’t know of Iran influencing another country apart from Syria and Iraq, this is where another human would answer back of the influence Iran has IF IT HAS ANY!😜

Seems like you can’t even answer that😂

Afghanistan and this situation are completely different, Taliban are still fighting back within their capacity ........what does Iran do???
Talk a load of crap of retribution and then
Fire missiles in a field and then oops they shoot down a civilian aircraft wow a great slap in the face of America whom are laughing at that slap right now😂
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: iceman on January 12, 2020, 12:49:25 AM
I gave you the mirror back to REFLECT on yourself........but you are a dimwit, sorry can’t help you there😜

You seem to be bothered about my opinions hence you keep answering.....lol😂

Oh....right.....MY Taliban government?? My kind?? Then you start crying if we call it “your men” ??
Hypocrite!!

Electoral stunt or any other stunt fact is.......A general got took out and Iran said it will retaliate but it’s retaliation was more like a wrist slap......that’s all I’m saying, no need to go in a frenzy😂

You are a seasoned diplomat you have history in politics and dynamics you know long term objective and planning.........hence your denial of Iran doing anything wrong because it will ruin your political stance and the bs history of Iran which you have a romanticised great shia relationship with........it’s your only strongest Shiite nation......we get it kid😜👍

I told you, are you intentionally playing dumb? Scroll up a few posts I don’t know of Iran influencing another country apart from Syria and Iraq, this is where another human would answer back of the influence Iran has IF IT HAS ANY!😜

Seems like you can’t even answer that😂

Afghanistan and this situation are completely different, Taliban are still fighting back within their capacity ........what does Iran do???
Talk a load of crap of retribution and then
Fire missiles in a field and then oops they shoot down a civilian aircraft wow a great slap in the face of America whom are laughing at that slap right now😂

"I gave you the mirror back to REFLECT on yourself........but you are a dimwit, sorry can’t help you there"

I know. You desperately need help yourself. So how on earth can you help anyone 😆

"You seem to be bothered about my opinions hence you keep answering.....lol"

I just love your tantrums, sarcasm and childish behaviour 😊 Can't help myself 😊

"Oh....right.....MY Taliban government?? My kind?? Then you start crying if we call it “your men” ??
Hypocrite!!"

What happened to the Afghan government who happened to be Taliban in 2001 😆

"Electoral stunt or any other stunt fact is.......A general got took out and Iran said it will retaliate but it’s retaliation was more like a wrist slap......that’s all I’m saying, no need to go in a frenzy😂"

Iran retaliated. Now if you want to mitigate and make it look small or if it wasn't according to your dreams then that ain't my problem. But condolences to you about your shattered hopes and dreams. No war here. 😆

"...it’s your only strongest Shiite nation......"

And I know you can't digest that. How many Sunni governed nations are there? Forget about war with America or going toe to toe with Iran which would be out of the question, how many are capable of defending themselves. And how many beg America to defend them 😆😆😆

"Taliban are still fighting back within their capacity ........what does Iran do???"

Because they're fighting the Americans. ISIS got defeated because of Hizbullah and Iran. 😆😆😆

:Talk a load of crap of retribution and then
Fire missiles in a field and then oops they shoot down a civilian aircraft wow a great slap in the face of America whom are laughing at that slap right now"

No war here my dear. Condolences about your shattered dreams. They retaliated which no Sunni governed country could ever possibly do. 😆😆😆 Trump isn't scared but played wise by not responding. And Iran retaliated by having and kerping longterm interests safe.
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: iceman on January 12, 2020, 02:03:58 AM
https://youtu.be/pbC2BfruYDQ
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: Mythbuster1 on January 12, 2020, 04:06:23 PM
"I gave you the mirror back to REFLECT on yourself........but you are a dimwit, sorry can’t help you there"

I know. You desperately need help yourself. So how on earth can you help anyone 😆

"You seem to be bothered about my opinions hence you keep answering.....lol"

I just love your tantrums, sarcasm and childish behaviour 😊 Can't help myself 😊

"Oh....right.....MY Taliban government?? My kind?? Then you start crying if we call it “your men” ??
Hypocrite!!"

What happened to the Afghan government who happened to be Taliban in 2001 😆

"Electoral stunt or any other stunt fact is.......A general got took out and Iran said it will retaliate but it’s retaliation was more like a wrist slap......that’s all I’m saying, no need to go in a frenzy😂"

Iran retaliated. Now if you want to mitigate and make it look small or if it wasn't according to your dreams then that ain't my problem. But condolences to you about your shattered hopes and dreams. No war here. 😆

"...it’s your only strongest Shiite nation......"

And I know you can't digest that. How many Sunni governed nations are there? Forget about war with America or going toe to toe with Iran which would be out of the question, how many are capable of defending themselves. And how many beg America to defend them 😆😆😆

"Taliban are still fighting back within their capacity ........what does Iran do???"

Because they're fighting the Americans. ISIS got defeated because of Hizbullah and Iran. 😆😆😆

:Talk a load of crap of retribution and then
Fire missiles in a field and then oops they shoot down a civilian aircraft wow a great slap in the face of America whom are laughing at that slap right now"

No war here my dear. Condolences about your shattered dreams. They retaliated which no Sunni governed country could ever possibly do. 😆😆😆 Trump isn't scared but played wise by not responding. And Iran retaliated by having and kerping longterm interests safe.

Told you I can’t help a dimwit especially the one who is a liar and a denier, you are even denying your own reflection 😂😂

Yea Iran is a superpower led by super imams hard nation who general bajwa went to seek help to create volunteer forces😂😂😂😂 seriously😜
If this isn’t sarcasm it’s a bloody good joke and I did say you shiites are the best jokers on earth we are waiting for your final act who is hiding in some cellar😂

It’s not my government infact they are still more able and capable than your Shiite Irani government........when they said they will attack they did and not just throw a few missiles to act big😂😂

Yes Iran retaliated more like wet it’s pants.😂
America took out your main man and all Iran does is........fire blanks and kill their own people😂😂😂😂
Dumb nation followed by dummies.......Hya dummy iceman😂
No war here the Iranis have turned into fairies😂

Lol toe to toe with Iran?.....let’s see I will give you 2 Pakistan and Turkey, as for begging for help from USA lol😂😂😂 Iran begged with Syrian Assad for Russia to help them .......you 2 faced HYPOCRITE!!
Hypocrisy starts from home for you shiites we know😜

Iran responded but by keeping it’s long term interests safe........by shooting down its own airline killing its own civilians and sparing the lives of American soldiers.....wow yes Alhamdulillah NO SUNNI GOVERNMENT WILL EVER DO THIS.

I agree with you 110% 👍
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: iceman on January 13, 2020, 01:51:51 AM
Told you I can’t help a dimwit especially the one who is a liar and a denier, you are even denying your own reflection 😂😂

Yea Iran is a superpower led by super imams hard nation who general bajwa went to seek help to create volunteer forces😂😂😂😂 seriously😜
If this isn’t sarcasm it’s a bloody good joke and I did say you shiites are the best jokers on earth we are waiting for your final act who is hiding in some cellar😂

It’s not my government infact they are still more able and capable than your Shiite Irani government........when they said they will attack they did and not just throw a few missiles to act big😂😂

Yes Iran retaliated more like wet it’s pants.😂
America took out your main man and all Iran does is........fire blanks and kill their own people😂😂😂😂
Dumb nation followed by dummies.......Hya dummy iceman😂
No war here the Iranis have turned into fairies😂

Lol toe to toe with Iran?.....let’s see I will give you 2 Pakistan and Turkey, as for begging for help from USA lol😂😂😂 Iran begged with Syrian Assad for Russia to help them .......you 2 faced HYPOCRITE!!
Hypocrisy starts from home for you shiites we know😜

Iran responded but by keeping it’s long term interests safe........by shooting down its own airline killing its own civilians and sparing the lives of American soldiers.....wow yes Alhamdulillah NO SUNNI GOVERNMENT WILL EVER DO THIS.

I agree with you 110% 👍

You can't help me even if your life depended on it 😊

None of your Sunni governed countries can protect themselves, never mind about America they can't even go toe to toe with a sanctioned country like Iran. Despite how Iran is looked at and treated by the international community since 1979, I salute it for being capable of standing on its own feet. That's how ture survivors are. If a Sunni governed country was put through by the West as Iran it would turn to dust.

America also took out your main men Osama and Bahgdadi. It also took out your Afghan government in 2001 and then your Iraqi government in 2003.

Again I understand your grief and pain that you're hiding under that sarcasm of yours. I feel you. Once again my deepest condolences to you on the death of your desire and dream. No war with Iran. No regime change here. Get some rest. 😊
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: Mythbuster1 on January 13, 2020, 03:02:58 PM
You can't help me even if your life depended on it 😊

None of your Sunni governed countries can protect themselves, never mind about America they can't even go toe to toe with a sanctioned country like Iran. Despite how Iran is looked at and treated by the international community since 1979, I salute it for being capable of standing on its own feet. That's how ture survivors are. If a Sunni governed country was put through by the West as Iran it would turn to dust.

America also took out your main men Osama and Bahgdadi. It also took out your Afghan government in 2001 and then your Iraqi government in 2003.

Again I understand your grief and pain that you're hiding under that sarcasm of yours. I feel you. Once again my deepest condolences to you on the death of your desire and dream. No war with Iran. No regime change here. Get some rest. 😊

True I could never help a dimwit like you ever😂

Told you Pakistan it’s suffered under sanctions it has more population than Iran but had the balls to stand up to the west and build a nuke.......THE FIRST AND ONLY ONE IN THE MUSLIM WORLD!!!
Iran has sanctions it hasn’t the balls to build one, if it did then the regime will fall😂

The rest about your take on Iran is about as true as divine Imamate in the Quran, you twist and lie but there is NO TRUTH😂😂

For your information Iran is dust it’s got NOTHING but dust 😂😂😂

Lol Osama can burn in hell baghdadi can too the Taliban can join them too infact any terrorist even Qassem Suleimani and evening IRAN who terrorise and kill their own people can join them too.........ANY Sunni government or people who support terrorists for any reason what so ever CAN BURN IN HELL!!

Now let’s see if a biased Shiite like you can stand up for injustice no matter who is perpetrating it and see if you stand up for the flag of imam Hussein ra who was against injustice........if you don’t then you are no follower of imam Hussein ra infact you are an irani propagandist rat😜

I don’t want USA to attack Iran lol grow up kid and STOP with your stupid assumptions and brushing any truth about Iran as hate, I’m just LAUGHING at how a divine government can’t hurt an American soldier but ends up killing its own people😂😂😂

So much for the slap, if this is a Shiite slap then Iran is best off wearing CHOORIYAN 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: Mythbuster1 on January 13, 2020, 03:13:37 PM
Yea Iran stood on its 2 feet more like 4😂😂😂😂

The lies dimwit icepop keeps peddling is honestly unbelievable this guy is number 1 bullshit😜😂

The U.S. publicly chose Hussein's side as the taking of hostages at the U.S. Embassy by Khomeini's supporters led to the severing of ties between Washington and Tehran. At the same time, the U.S. secretly sold arms to Iran with the intent of using the funds to back anti-communist insurgents in Nicaragua in a scandal that became known as the Iran-Contra Affair. Its architect, then–National Security Council staff member Oliver North, was chosen as the new president of the National Rifle Association in May of this year.

.........And icepop says America didn’t help Iran in war with Iraq??😂😂

What a lying lil rat you are😂😂😂
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: iceman on January 14, 2020, 12:34:55 PM
Yea Iran stood on its 2 feet more like 4😂😂😂😂

The lies dimwit icepop keeps peddling is honestly unbelievable this guy is number 1 bullshit😜😂

The U.S. publicly chose Hussein's side as the taking of hostages at the U.S. Embassy by Khomeini's supporters led to the severing of ties between Washington and Tehran. At the same time, the U.S. secretly sold arms to Iran with the intent of using the funds to back anti-communist insurgents in Nicaragua in a scandal that became known as the Iran-Contra Affair. Its architect, then–National Security Council staff member Oliver North, was chosen as the new president of the National Rifle Association in May of this year.

.........And icepop says America didn’t help Iran in war with Iraq??😂😂

What a lying lil rat you are😂😂😂

What can I say. I put facts forward, you are hell-bent in NOT ACCEPTING them because of your discriminating nature towards Shias which has absolutely and completely blinded you, so you have to come up with counter arguments 😆 Would you kindly tell us who MEK is that is MUJAHIDEEN E KHALAK 😆
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: iceman on January 14, 2020, 12:47:09 PM
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/nov/09/mek-iran-revolution-regime-trump-rajavi&ved=2ahUKEwiF14qD5YLnAhXWRBUIHTFKApQQFjAFegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw3RpRHNVlSiVFDu-wWQJcU4

So now we know and learn about the protests in Iran and who's behind them. It's the same members and loyalists of the terror group MEK MUJAHIDEEN E KHALQ. And what are the western diplomats doing associating and engaging with them. So now we know why Iran is behaving in such a way.
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: Mythbuster1 on January 14, 2020, 01:10:57 PM
What can I say. I put facts forward, you are hell-bent in NOT ACCEPTING them because of your discriminating nature towards Shias which has absolutely and completely blinded you, so you have to come up with counter arguments 😆 Would you kindly tell us who MEK is that is MUJAHIDEEN E KHALAK 😆

Mujahideen who??? Mujahideen I don’t care it’s nothing to do with our topic, go start another thread dimwit.

Ok let’s see YOUR (iceman) facts:

You say: USA ONLY helped Iraq and not Iran

I gave you the Iran contra affair!

You come back with Mujahedeen who??
In other words you have NOTHING to say and instead side track with other issues.
Try sticking to points instead of trying to portray Iran as if it’s innocent.

Blah blah you hate Shias you despise Shias you this you that, I don’t give a monkeys of what you think try portraying facts and answering questions instead of acting like some propagandist for the regime of Iran.

You have nothing apart from your moronic assumptions 😂😂😂

Typical Shiite sidetracking because he can’t answer a straight question, it’s inbuilt programmed  from birth for shiites they start with divine Imamate, we ask show is proof from Quran and icepop and his men will go round and round but will NEVER produce a clear verse instead they give us is.........ASSUMPTIONS!!😂😂😂

Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: iceman on January 14, 2020, 03:39:56 PM
Mujahideen who??? Mujahideen I don’t care it’s nothing to do with our topic, go start another thread dimwit.

Ok let’s see YOUR (iceman) facts:

You say: USA ONLY helped Iraq and not Iran

I gave you the Iran contra affair!

You come back with Mujahedeen who??
In other words you have NOTHING to say and instead side track with other issues.
Try sticking to points instead of trying to portray Iran as if it’s innocent.

Blah blah you hate Shias you despise Shias you this you that, I don’t give a monkeys of what you think try portraying facts and answering questions instead of acting like some propagandist for the regime of Iran.

You have nothing apart from your moronic assumptions 😂😂😂

Typical Shiite sidetracking because he can’t answer a straight question, it’s inbuilt programmed  from birth for shiites they start with divine Imamate, we ask show is proof from Quran and icepop and his men will go round and round but will NEVER produce a clear verse instead they give us is.........ASSUMPTIONS!!😂😂😂

It seems like I've either touched a sensitive nerve or just dealing with someone who is childish and also has tantrum issues. Don't be afraid of facts. You're just too blinded by the Anti Shia venom running through your veins. 😊 And exactly my point and what I've been saying all along, stick to the thread and what is being discussed.
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: Mythbuster1 on January 14, 2020, 04:01:36 PM
It seems like I've either touched a sensitive nerve or just dealing with someone who is childish and also has tantrum issues. Don't be afraid of facts. You're just too blinded by the Anti Shia venom running through your veins. 😊 And exactly my point and what I've been saying all along, stick to the thread and what is being discussed.

Lol dimwit the fact is you say America helped Iraq and NOT Iran

I say read the Iran contra affair

As a human living on this earth and searching for truth like a true follower of ahlu baith you INSTEAD post mujahideen khalq as your answer to the Iran contra affair.

Typical shia who won’t hear anything bad about a divine country run by a bunch of ingrates.

😂
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: iceman on January 16, 2020, 05:01:14 AM
Lol dimwit the fact is you say America helped Iraq and NOT Iran

I say read the Iran contra affair

As a human living on this earth and searching for truth like a true follower of ahlu baith you INSTEAD post mujahideen khalq as your answer to the Iran contra affair.

Typical shia who won’t hear anything bad about a divine country run by a bunch of ingrates.

😂

"Typical shia who won’t hear anything bad about a divine country run by a bunch of ingrates"

A typical Shia hate monger who can't see anything good and positive about Shias or Iran. One Shia governed country and you can't live with that. How many Sunni governed countries are there. And we don't loose any sleep over it. You're having constant nightmares over one 😊

"Lol dimwit the fact is you say America helped Iraq and NOT Iran"

No country helped Iran.
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: iceman on January 16, 2020, 05:14:17 AM
Lol dimwit the fact is you say America helped Iraq and NOT Iran

I say read the Iran contra affair

As a human living on this earth and searching for truth like a true follower of ahlu baith you INSTEAD post mujahideen khalq as your answer to the Iran contra affair.

Typical shia who won’t hear anything bad about a divine country run by a bunch of ingrates.

😂

https://youtu.be/XiNauogTSrk
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: Mythbuster1 on January 16, 2020, 07:55:27 AM
https://youtu.be/XiNauogTSrk

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: iceman on January 17, 2020, 12:38:39 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair

If this is the case then why didn't the woman in the link I posted who is interviewing the Iran minister mention this to him when the minister said "No one, no one sold us any military equipment to defend ourselves against Saddam's aggression and invasion". 😊
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: Mythbuster1 on January 17, 2020, 03:16:51 PM
If this is the case then why didn't the woman in the link I posted who is interviewing the Iran minister mention this to him when the minister said "No one, no one sold us any military equipment to defend ourselves against Saddam's aggression and invasion". 😊

Lol READ the title of the video you posted it’s about Trumps policies and the reporter is questioning him on that.

I hope that clears that up.😜👍

The link I posted is in relation to your assumption that America ONLY helped Iraq!!

You sure are a Dimwit.😂
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: iceman on January 17, 2020, 11:53:19 PM
Lol READ the title of the video you posted it’s about Trumps policies and the reporter is questioning him on that.

I hope that clears that up.😜👍

The link I posted is in relation to your assumption that America ONLY helped Iraq!!

You sure are a Dimwit.😂

In the video Iran's minister mentions that when they were attacked by American made this, British made that, French made this and German made that nobody sold us any equipment or came to our aid. Why didn't the reporter know about the link you've posted about the Iran contra affair
and questioned Iran's minister over it and challenged him on it. Or was the reporter a dimwit too. 😊 Or may be you're just too prejudice about Iran and are putting things forward without looking into them. 😊
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: Mythbuster1 on January 18, 2020, 03:17:51 PM
In the video Iran's minister mentions that when they were attacked by American made this, British made that, French made this and German made that nobody sold us any equipment or came to our aid. Why didn't the reporter know about the link you've posted about the Iran contra affair
and questioned Iran's minister over it and challenged him on it. Or was the reporter a dimwit too. 😊 Or may be you're just too prejudice about Iran and are putting things forward without looking into them. 😊

It’s a 20 minute clip maybe it’s not on the reporters mind, it doesn’t mean it never happened.

In 1985, while Iran and Iraq were at war, Iran made a secret request to buy weapons from the United States.

Lol the divinity supermen believers were asking for weapons from the great Satan and icepop assumes it never happened 😂😂

It hurts so the best defence is......denial!!😂😂

You are a dimwit you are blinded by Iran and anything to do with it that you will turn a blind eye to ANYHTHING negative about Iran.

 A dimwit who assumes Iran contra affair didn’t happen😂😂😂

Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: iceman on January 23, 2020, 04:37:03 PM
It’s a 20 minute clip maybe it’s not on the reporters mind, it doesn’t mean it never happened.

In 1985, while Iran and Iraq were at war, Iran made a secret request to buy weapons from the United States.

Lol the divinity supermen believers were asking for weapons from the great Satan and icepop assumes it never happened 😂😂

It hurts so the best defence is......denial!!😂😂

You are a dimwit you are blinded by Iran and anything to do with it that you will turn a blind eye to ANYHTHING negative about Iran.

 A dimwit who assumes Iran contra affair didn’t happen😂😂😂

"It’s a 20 minute clip maybe it’s not on the reporters mind, it doesn’t mean it never happened"

Can't you do better than that 😊

"In 1985, while Iran and Iraq were at war, Iran made a secret request to buy weapons from the United States"

Secret request 😊 That's a nice one. May be Iran and Saudi Arabia are actually true friends but are just not showing it 😊 That's if we start going by your thoughts and assumptions. May be you guys really love the Shias but don't want to show it 😀

"Lol the divinity supermen believers were asking for weapons from the great Satan and icepop assumes it never happened"

If you don't understand any part of the Shia belief then I can help you with that. But the fact of the matter is that you don't want to understand any part of the Shia belief but just want to mock it. There's nothing I can do or help you with your illness.

"You are a dimwit you are blinded by Iran and anything to do with it that you will turn a blind eye to ANYHTHING negative about Iran"

Tell me anything good, useful, positive and constructive about Iran. I'm waiting. .....So now tell me who's blinded by hate.

"A dimwit who assumes Iran contra affair didn’t happen"

Why didn't the reporter mention it and challenge the minister over it.

Your reply "maybe it’s not on the reporters mind".Well what about the audience? Nobody has it on their mind? OK, I can put other clips forward with different reporters and audience. 😊

Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: Mythbuster1 on January 23, 2020, 08:54:14 PM

Can't you do better than that 😊

No need to, it’s a well known fact, The regime from the start was dealing with the great Satan even before you was born kid 😉


Secret request 😊 That's a nice one. May be Iran and Saudi Arabia are actually true friends but are just not showing it 😊 That's if we start going by your thoughts and assumptions. May be you guys really love the Shias but don't want to show it 😃

Sarcasm is not your thing is it, maybe it’s your way of denying facts I’m just going by your thoughts and assumptions kid 😊
Yes we do love Truth and we really do show it to Shias like you 👍


If you don't understand any part of the Shia belief then I can help you with that. But the fact of the matter is that you don't want to understand any part of the Shia belief but just want to mock it. There's nothing I can do or help you with your illness.

Lol thanks for your help, divine Imamate was given to a great prophet as AFTER tests whilst all the ahle baith ra WITHOUT tests were automatically granted it, reason being..........it was A......Promotion! And it was gods decision void of any facts. Thankyou.

No cure for the above illness😂

Tell me anything good, useful, positive and constructive about Iran. I'm waiting. .....So now tell me who's blinded by hate.

So your biased mind will ONLY accept useful things about Iran that corresponds with your assumptions and theories and IF I don’t.........it’s hate.😂😂

Stating facts about Iran makes me a hater😂😂👍


Why didn't the reporter mention it and challenge the minister over it.
Your reply "maybe it’s not on the reporters mind".Well what about the audience? Nobody has it on their mind? OK, I can put other clips forward with different reporters and audience. 😊

Whataboutery 😊
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: iceman on February 04, 2020, 05:43:22 PM
No need to, it’s a well known fact, The regime from the start was dealing with the great Satan even before you was born kid 😉

Sarcasm is not your thing is it, maybe it’s your way of denying facts I’m just going by your thoughts and assumptions kid 😊
Yes we do love Truth and we really do show it to Shias like you 👍

Lol thanks for your help, divine Imamate was given to a great prophet as AFTER tests whilst all the ahle baith ra WITHOUT tests were automatically granted it, reason being..........it was A......Promotion! And it was gods decision void of any facts. Thankyou.

No cure for the above illness😂

So your biased mind will ONLY accept useful things about Iran that corresponds with your assumptions and theories and IF I don’t.........it’s hate.😂😂

Stating facts about Iran makes me a hater😂😂👍

Whataboutery 😊

"No need to, it’s a well known fact"

Is it? Because you said so 😊

"The regime from the start was dealing with the great Satan even before you was born kid"

The regime was opposed well before it came into power. The Iranian revolution was opposed by the West let alone the regime that came into place afterwards. The revolution was brought about by the people.

"maybe it’s your way of denying facts"

Which facts have I denied 😊 You just put your opinion forward based on hatred which I reject. Because your opinion goes against facts. You can't be friends with someone you call Satan. And who's embassy you raid in Tehran in 1979 and take the staff hostage. I can give you many facts. But you're full of.

"Yes we do love Truth"

You love hatred and you're full of hate. That's why you're blind in just about everything. 😊 Thinking rationally and accepting facts ain't your thing.

"Lol thanks for your help, divine Imamate was given to a great prophet as AFTER tests whilst all the ahle baith ra WITHOUT tests were automatically granted it, reason being"

You need an open mind to understand things which you don't have. Who said Imamah is only by promotion 😊 Where did you get this idea from 😊 You just look for counter arguments. That's where you get your ideas from 😊

"No cure for the above illness"

Absolutely. I agree. There is no cure for your illness.

"Stating facts about Iran makes me a hater:

Nope. Saying nothing good, useful and positive about Iran, Shiaism or the Shias is what makes you an hater. 😊 Always speaking I'll and negative all the time is what makes you an hate monger 😊 Not my fault 😊
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: Mythbuster1 on February 04, 2020, 08:00:29 PM
"No need to, it’s a well known fact"

Is it? Because you said so 😊

"The regime from the start was dealing with the great Satan even before you was born kid"

The regime was opposed well before it came into power. The Iranian revolution was opposed by the West let alone the regime that came into place afterwards. The revolution was brought about by the people.

"maybe it’s your way of denying facts"

Which facts have I denied 😊 You just put your opinion forward based on hatred which I reject. Because your opinion goes against facts. You can't be friends with someone you call Satan. And who's embassy you raid in Tehran in 1979 and take the staff hostage. I can give you many facts. But you're full of.

"Yes we do love Truth"

You love hatred and you're full of hate. That's why you're blind in just about everything. 😊 Thinking rationally and accepting facts ain't your thing.

"Lol thanks for your help, divine Imamate was given to a great prophet as AFTER tests whilst all the ahle baith ra WITHOUT tests were automatically granted it, reason being"

You need an open mind to understand things which you don't have. Who said Imamah is only by promotion 😊 Where did you get this idea from 😊 You just look for counter arguments. That's where you get your ideas from 😊

"No cure for the above illness"

Absolutely. I agree. There is no cure for your illness.

"Stating facts about Iran makes me a hater:

Nope. Saying nothing good, useful and positive about Iran, Shiaism or the Shias is what makes you an hater. 😊 Always speaking I'll and negative all the time is what makes you an hate monger 😊 Not my fault 😊

No because it’s facts and I know a dimwit like you will deny it if it has anything bad about Iran.........just like the rss supporters of modi in India who believe anything bad said about modi is all hate, you are from the same hate boat.👍

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair

Read above and if you still disagree then keep denying it all you want it won’t change the facts.

Lol 😂😂😂 THIS is why you are a joke,dimwit, it was you who said Imamate was promotion and used verse of Ibrahim as being promoted to an imam AFTER prophethood, I asked why didn’t the ahle baith ra do a test and your answer.........it’s upto god!.

Now if I don’t understand that then I have to have an open mind?!?!?
For the last 1400 years there definitely is no cure for this illness only deniers of truth will understand this.........which you fit in perfectly well kid 😜👍

Again stating facts like how Iran regime meets Chinese leader and this Iran contra affair somehow makes me a hate monger......then Alhamdulillah by stating facts makes you a denier then I am on the right track👍
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: iceman on February 10, 2020, 02:42:15 AM
No because it’s facts and I know a dimwit like you will deny it if it has anything bad about Iran.........just like the rss supporters of modi in India who believe anything bad said about modi is all hate, you are from the same hate boat.👍

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair

Read above and if you still disagree then keep denying it all you want it won’t change the facts.

Lol 😂😂😂 THIS is why you are a joke,dimwit, it was you who said Imamate was promotion and used verse of Ibrahim as being promoted to an imam AFTER prophethood, I asked why didn’t the ahle baith ra do a test and your answer.........it’s upto god!.

Now if I don’t understand that then I have to have an open mind?!?!?
For the last 1400 years there definitely is no cure for this illness only deniers of truth will understand this.........which you fit in perfectly well kid 😜👍

Again stating facts like how Iran regime meets Chinese leader and this Iran contra affair somehow makes me a hate monger......then Alhamdulillah by stating facts makes you a denier then I am on the right track👍

"No because it’s facts and I know a dimwit like you will deny it if it has anything bad about Iran.........just like the rss supporters of modi in India who believe anything bad said about modi is all hate, you are from the same hate boat"

And you, are you any different? Lets hear it then. Show you're different by telling us something good, positive and useful about Iran. Come on, is it that difficult for Yeh 😊  Surely there must be something. Anything? 😊 This is how easily your kind are exposed and finished off. Now keep hopping around the bush 😀

"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair

Read above and if you still disagree then keep denying it all you want it won’t change the facts."

Why didn't the reporter mention this and challenge Iran's minister when he said "no one was willing to sell us a single weapon when we were attacked by Saddam" 😊

"Lol 😂😂😂 THIS is why you are a joke,dimwit, it was you who said Imamate was promotion and used verse of Ibrahim as being promoted to an imam AFTER prophethood, I asked why didn’t the ahle baith ra do a test and your answer.........it’s upto god!"

No i didn't say Imamah was promotion. Prove that I said that. You wanted evidence of Imamah from the Qur'an and I produced it. I asked you if Abraham was promoted, demoted or was given a title of a similar nature and standard. You were too frightened to answer this.
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: Mythbuster1 on February 10, 2020, 11:51:15 PM
"No because it’s facts and I know a dimwit like you will deny it if it has anything bad about Iran.........just like the rss supporters of modi in India who believe anything bad said about modi is all hate, you are from the same hate boat"

And you, are you any different? Lets hear it then. Show you're different by telling us something good, positive and useful about Iran. Come on, is it that difficult for Yeh 😊  Surely there must be something. Anything? 😊 This is how easily your kind are exposed and finished off. Now keep hopping around the bush 😀

"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair

Read above and if you still disagree then keep denying it all you want it won’t change the facts."

Why didn't the reporter mention this and challenge Iran's minister when he said "no one was willing to sell us a single weapon when we were attacked by Saddam" 😊

"Lol 😂😂😂 THIS is why you are a joke,dimwit, it was you who said Imamate was promotion and used verse of Ibrahim as being promoted to an imam AFTER prophethood, I asked why didn’t the ahle baith ra do a test and your answer.........it’s upto god!"

No i didn't say Imamah was promotion. Prove that I said that. You wanted evidence of Imamah from the Qur'an and I produced it. I asked you if Abraham was promoted, demoted or was given a title of a similar nature and standard. You were too frightened to answer this.


You are a blind follower and your heart is full of glory for Shiite Iran a dream which will never get fulfilled but hey if it gets you to sleep at night then it’s all good even if I did say ANYTHING good about Iran which I am sure I have but you quickly turn blind and dumb and keep regurgitating the same line.....”you hate Iran you hate Shias say something good”!!

I HAVE! It’s boring.Now move on!

Go ASK the reporter! do you mr iceman base your denial just coz the reporter didn’t raise up the Iran contra affair? Really?!

Verse of Ibrahim as is not the evidence for divine imamah and you know it you and your kind haven’t proved nothing apart from your assumptions and promotion theories,kid.

As for your promotion theory that’s YOUR idea for to you it was a higher station hence your questions to which I answered NO......do you remember....kid.

It’s clear to see your blind love for Iran and divine Imamate you keep regurgitating the same mantra, infact you and your kind will be in this state till qiyamah even when facts slap you across your faces you will still follow your assumptions and desires.
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: iceman on February 11, 2020, 12:26:37 AM

You are a blind follower and your heart is full of glory for Shiite Iran a dream which will never get fulfilled but hey if it gets you to sleep at night then it’s all good even if I did say ANYTHING good about Iran which I am sure I have but you quickly turn blind and dumb and keep regurgitating the same line.....”you hate Iran you hate Shias say something good”!!

I HAVE! It’s boring.Now move on!

Go ASK the reporter! do you mr iceman base your denial just coz the reporter didn’t raise up the Iran contra affair? Really?!

Verse of Ibrahim as is not the evidence for divine imamah and you know it you and your kind haven’t proved nothing apart from your assumptions and promotion theories,kid.

As for your promotion theory that’s YOUR idea for to you it was a higher station hence your questions to which I answered NO......do you remember....kid.

It’s clear to see your blind love for Iran and divine Imamate you keep regurgitating the same mantra, infact you and your kind will be in this state till qiyamah even when facts slap you across your faces you will still follow your assumptions and desires.

"You are a blind follower and your heart is full of glory for Shiite Iran a dream which will never get fulfilled"

I'm not a blind follower. I have an open mind and I'm a rational thinker. What dream are you on about.

"but hey if it gets you to sleep at night then it’s all good"

I don't have double standards like you, neither am I full of hatred for those Muslims who are different than me like you. This is what gets me to sleep at night. I know Shiaism and the Shias keep you awake most of the night. And when you do fall asleep it gives you nightmares. If you're awake it gives you the shivers. That's how your kind have been for 1400 years.

even if I did say ANYTHING good about Iran which I am sure I have"

Anything good, positive, useful and constructive about Iran. If you have said then lets see it.

"I HAVE! It’s boring.Now move on"

We've moved on 1400 years ago. You need to move on by getting yourself off this anti shia propaganda bandwagon and getting on with your life if you have one.

"Go ASK the reporter! do you mr iceman base your denial just coz the reporter didn’t raise up the Iran contra affair? Really?"

Because there was no Iran contra affair. If it was true and there was then the reporter  must be playing dumb according to you.

"Verse of Ibrahim as is not the evidence for divine imamah and you know it you and your kind haven’t proved nothing apart from your assumptions and promotion theories,kid"

You asked for Imamah to be proven from the Qur'an. I proved that there is such thing as Imamah and Allah has chosen and made Imams right from the Qur'an. This is where you got knocked out and your head is still spinning in circles over it. I understand.

"As for your promotion theory that’s YOUR idea for to you it was a higher station hence your questions to which I answered NO......do you remember....kid."

How is it my promotion theory? Explain. I asked you if Abraham was promoted, demoted, given a title/grade of a similar nature or something else for you to explain. You haven't addressed it till yet. You just don't have it within you you're just here to be sarcastic and to toy and play. You're just a side kick.

"It’s clear to see your blind love for Iran and divine Imamate you keep regurgitating the same mantra, infact you and your kind will be in this state till qiyamah even when facts slap you across your faces you will still follow your assumptions and desires"

I don't have blind love or faith. That's you and your kind. Blind love for just a handful of Sahaba and blind faith full of double standards. No one has come any close to slapping us for 1400 years. People have been trying just like you and this site but no one has got any close to doing it and never will. 😊😊😊
Title: Re: Iranian hacker group hacks US government website, curses sahaba?
Post by: Mythbuster1 on February 11, 2020, 04:52:21 PM
"You are a blind follower and your heart is full of glory for Shiite Iran a dream which will never get fulfilled"

I'm not a blind follower. I have an open mind and I'm a rational thinker. What dream are you on about.

"but hey if it gets you to sleep at night then it’s all good"

I don't have double standards like you, neither am I full of hatred for those Muslims who are different than me like you. This is what gets me to sleep at night. I know Shiaism and the Shias keep you awake most of the night. And when you do fall asleep it gives you nightmares. If you're awake it gives you the shivers. That's how your kind have been for 1400 years.

even if I did say ANYTHING good about Iran which I am sure I have"

Anything good, positive, useful and constructive about Iran. If you have said then lets see it.

"I HAVE! It’s boring.Now move on"

We've moved on 1400 years ago. You need to move on by getting yourself off this anti shia propaganda bandwagon and getting on with your life if you have one.

"Go ASK the reporter! do you mr iceman base your denial just coz the reporter didn’t raise up the Iran contra affair? Really?"

Because there was no Iran contra affair. If it was true and there was then the reporter  must be playing dumb according to you.

"Verse of Ibrahim as is not the evidence for divine imamah and you know it you and your kind haven’t proved nothing apart from your assumptions and promotion theories,kid"

You asked for Imamah to be proven from the Qur'an. I proved that there is such thing as Imamah and Allah has chosen and made Imams right from the Qur'an. This is where you got knocked out and your head is still spinning in circles over it. I understand.

"As for your promotion theory that’s YOUR idea for to you it was a higher station hence your questions to which I answered NO......do you remember....kid."

How is it my promotion theory? Explain. I asked you if Abraham was promoted, demoted, given a title/grade of a similar nature or something else for you to explain. You haven't addressed it till yet. You just don't have it within you you're just here to be sarcastic and to toy and play. You're just a side kick.

"It’s clear to see your blind love for Iran and divine Imamate you keep regurgitating the same mantra, infact you and your kind will be in this state till qiyamah even when facts slap you across your faces you will still follow your assumptions and desires"

I don't have blind love or faith. That's you and your kind. Blind love for just a handful of Sahaba and blind faith full of double standards. No one has come any close to slapping us for 1400 years. People have been trying just like you and this site but no one has got any close to doing it and never will. 😊😊😊

Not much of a rational thinker when confronted with facts about Iran, it’s clear to see not ONCE have you listened but kept on with your denial.

You DO have double standards if Iran does it it’s ok but if Sunni countries do it it’s hate! I know saqifa keeps you awake at night so by denying facts like you do makes you sleep then like I said it’s all good.👍

I have and I stick by with what I say your mind is in constant denial then it’s more of a mental problem for which I have no remedy even for you need a straight jacket.

We have Alhamdulillah moved on its YOU and your kind that keep CRYING coz divine khilafat got usurped........that was 1400 years ago and yet you keep regurgitating the same old arguments that have been answered.
There is NO clear verse of divine imamah and the verse you use is not about no promotion to anything higher than a Prophet, I know you have to knock yourself in the head to get rid of the last remaining braincells that make you believe such nonsense.

Yes I have answered to your question it’s here posted and in the threads go find it and STOP spreading lies, it was you who then couldn’t take the answer and kept repeating “you don’t understand you won’t open up”.

Lol you get slapped all over in here who are you kidding kid, your ancestors got the biggest slap for they cannot produce a clear verse on divine Imamate nor has ANY imam ever said through clear evidence that he is divine leader infact our great prophet pbuh NEVER said such about His offspring either, your just following a geezer who made all that nonsense up.
1400 years and no divine imam ever ruled man you have nothing.
A prophet gets promoted to a higher status than prophethood to gain Imamate, Which you are pointing out by saying He was promoted to after prophethood, mate I haven’t a clue about anything higher than a prophet and your explanation doesn’t answer why the ahle baith ra NEVER went through prophethood and tests to reach divine Imamate, it’s contradictory and you still haven’t answered as to WHY THAT IS.

As for sahaba ra it’s all about saqifa and that’s your fall guy for centuries yet you cannot prove it instead you lie and assume.

Surah 9/100
And the first forerunners [in the faith] among the Muhajireen and the An§ar and those who followed them with good conduct - Allah is pleased with them and they are pleased with Him, and He has prepared for them gardens beneath which rivers flow, wherein they will abide forever. That is the great attainment.

You can keep crying and banging your head till qiyamah but Allah swt is pleased with them.