I don't need to add anything and you don't need to subtract anything. You're not a native either. And being a native doesn't make much difference because the natives differed greatly on various matters and still do.
He was made an Imam of the people. You translate this as leader. Was he not a leader before being tried? You haven’t touched this. He was a leader to begin with. So leadership has got nothing to do with it.
Don't twist and turn things to mitigate and minimise the matter. This is a serious issue. It's no joke. You said "Yes He was a great imam/leader of the people after prophethood" was he not a great leader before being an Imam?
Here Imam doesn’t mean leadership. But that is how it's translated. Because it doesn't make any sense. Was he not a leader of the people before he was tried and made an Imam.
"without being divine imam/leader there was no more prophecy no more divinity"
Then again what is the point of the whole thing? Why mention this example? What was the need? He was tried by his Lord and when succeeded he was made an Imam of the people. If this is not important and serious, if it's nothing big then what's the point of it.
WAKE UP!
You DO liar, you add the concept YOURSELF, nowhere does it say He Ibrahim as is now a divine imam, you made that methodology up YOURSELF and you know it, a bad methadology where you set the standards.
His prophecy was complete as the verse states and prophets recieve revelations and are divine as you concluded and which is an established FACT.
He is a leader of mankind as the verse states, you must be dumb to not recognise that He is the leader an imam, a leader an imam WITHOUT the benefit of being divine,(you add that by using your Shiite biased methadology or are straight up ignorant) no more revelations no more tests and commandments, He Ibrahim as lived His life as a leader who taught one god to the world as the verses theme goes, just ponder over Judaism Christianity and Islam He Ibrahim as is our leader we celebrate the biggest eid.....eid ul adha because of Ibrahim as.
He was a prophet spreading deen following commandments of Allah swt, He wasn’t a leader like you think of Him as a divine leader just because He was a divine prophet no that’s your folly that’s your misunderstanding that’s where you are going wrong and adding divine in based on your stupid methadology.
That’s why I said Arabic is not our native language as imam means leader, teacher, parent etc so that leadership could also fall into a teacher a teacher an imam who taught One God.
You are adding an alien concept yet again and are finding it very difficult of explaining how it fits in there.😜
You say:
“Here Imam doesn’t mean leadership. But that is how it's translated. Because it doesn't make any sense. Was he not a leader of the people before he was tried and made an Imam.”
So according to your above reply imam leader on its own doesn’t make sense? Just because you deem it to be so, That’s exactly what I mean you are a biased Shiite your not even opening your mind up instead it doesn’t makes sense to you......more like you KNOW it’s nonsense but your loyalty to the dream of ibn Saba and His divine Imamate theory will go out of the window if you believe as the Quran states without the divine bit.
Yes Ibrahim as’s prophethood was VERY important to not just us muslims but for the whole world, you ask them questions to Allah swt it’s not our problem that you can’t explain that divine part that you keep adding to one particular verse that you think sounds closest to divine Imamate and by using a Shiite methadology and stupid questions to come to your conclusion.
GO BACK TO SLEEP IN YOUR CAVE LIAR!
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