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Off Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Arabismo on March 24, 2016, 11:37:54 AM

Title: Question on Ibn Taymiyyah
Post by: Arabismo on March 24, 2016, 11:37:54 AM
From what i read Ibn Taymiyyah was an Arab from the Tribe of Banu Numayr however in Anti-Majos latest video at around 13:14 it states Ibn Taymiyyah was a Kurd




So my question is: Was Ibn Taymiyyah an arab or a kurd.
Title: Re: Question on Ibn Taymiyyah
Post by: Abu Jasim Al-Salafi on April 07, 2016, 10:36:35 PM
Hope you read Arabic, however, Shaikhul Islam's has a special place in our hearts, and him being an Arab or a Kurd won't change it, but he is an Arab and is from Bani-Nuwair, an Arab tribe.

This is the proof in Arabic and I don't have time to translate this and I hope any of the brothers reading this can translate it:

يقول العلامة بكر أبو زيد القضاعي ـ رحمه الله ـ مقرّرا نسبه إلى بني نُمير ... ما نصّه : ( المداخل إلى آثار شيخ الإسلام ابن تيمية وما لحقها من أعمال ) ص 16:

( نسبته النُميري من إفادات تلميذ تلامذته ابن ناصر الدين ( 842 ) ، وتابعه عليها العدوي في الزيارات ، بل هذه النسبة منصوص عليها في بعض رسائل الشيخ المخطوطة على طرر النسخ ، وقد ذكر الشيخ ابن قاسم في مقدمة النقض ، رسالتين رآهما في الظاهريّة كذلك ص 35 حاشية 1 ، وهي نسبة إلى بني نُمير ، وهم بطن من عامر بن صعصعة بن معاوية بن بكر بن هوازن العدنانية ، وذكر القلقشندي في نهاية الأرب ص 433 نقلاً عن ابن خلدون : أن منازل بني نُمير في الجزيرة الفراتية والشام ، فشيخ الإسلام إذاً (عربي صريح نسباً ولساناً ).

Also:

:هو
أحمد بن عبد الحليم بن عبد السلام بن عبد الله، تقي الدين أبو العباس النميري العامري من بني عامر بن صعصعة، ولقبه «شيخ الإسلام» ولد يوم الإثنين 10 ربيع الأول 661هـ أحد علماء الحنابلة.
Title: Re: Question on Ibn Taymiyyah
Post by: scusemyenglish on July 14, 2016, 09:07:49 PM
Salam.

One day I have heard one shia scholar saying "Ibn Taymiya has not written " Radhia Allâhou ‘anhou" when he has quoted Ali"

You have heard this history?
Title: Re: Question on Ibn Taymiyyah
Post by: Abu Jasim Al-Salafi on July 15, 2016, 10:09:56 PM
Quote from: scusemyenglish on July 14, 2016, 09:07:49 PM
Salam.

One day I have heard one shia scholar saying "Ibn Taymiya has not written " Radhia Allâhou ‘anhou" when he has quoted Ali"

You have heard this history?

Where?
Title: Re: Question on Ibn Taymiyyah
Post by: Abu Jasim Al-Salafi on July 15, 2016, 10:14:43 PM
Quote from: scusemyenglish on July 14, 2016, 09:07:49 PM
Salam.

One day I have heard one shia scholar saying "Ibn Taymiya has not written " Radhia Allâhou ‘anhou" when he has quoted Ali"

You have heard this history?

Also, this isn't true, when Shaykh-ul Islam Ibn Taymiyyah (رحمه الله) mentioned Ali's name, most of the time he used to say 'Ameer-ul Mumineen (Caliph of the Believers) Ali may Allah be pleased with him.' Need proof? There you go, read his book 'Rights of Aal-al Bait between Sunnah and Innovation' yourself:

https://islamhouse.com/en/books/1988/

And see if he said may Allah be pleased with Ali or not.

P.S: He did ;) (See Page 17, 19, 20, and more)

Also, do all the Shi'a say may Allah be pleased with Ali (Radhia Allâhou ‘anhou) every single time they write down his name or mention him? When they say the 'Shirki' "call" (Ya Ali/يا علي), do they say 'Radhia Allâhou ‘anhou' after it? No.
Title: Re: Question on Ibn Taymiyyah
Post by: scusemyenglish on July 15, 2016, 11:28:56 PM
Quote from: Abu Jasim Al-Salafi on July 15, 2016, 10:14:43 PM
Quote from: scusemyenglish on July 14, 2016, 09:07:49 PM
Salam.

One day I have heard one shia scholar saying "Ibn Taymiya has not written " Radhia Allâhou ‘anhou" when he has quoted Ali"

You have heard this history?

Also, this isn't true, when Shaykh-ul Islam Ibn Taymiyyah (رحمه الله) mentioned Ali's name, most of the time he used to say 'Ameer-ul Mumineen (Caliph of the Believers) Ali may Allah be pleased with him.' Need proof? There you go, read his book 'Rights of Aal-al Bait between Sunnah and Innovation' yourself:

https://islamhouse.com/en/books/1988/

And see if he said may Allah be pleased with Ali or not.

P.S: He did ;) (See Page 17, 19, 20, and more)

Also, do all the Shi'a say may Allah be pleased with Ali (Radhia Allâhou ‘anhou) every single time they write down his name or mention him? When they say the 'Shirki' "call" (Ya Ali/يا علي), do they say 'Radhia Allâhou ‘anhou' after it? No.

Saha.

I have read that by him



but i have forgotten where precisly...
Title: Re: Question on Ibn Taymiyyah
Post by: demmzy15 on July 16, 2016, 01:15:01 AM
Salam Alaikum,

I also noticed that the Sheikh(rah) was harsh when condemning the Druze and Nusayris. Please why?
Title: Re: Question on Ibn Taymiyyah
Post by: Abu Jasim Al-Salafi on July 16, 2016, 01:28:34 AM
Quote from: demmzy15 on July 16, 2016, 01:15:01 AM
Salam Alaikum,

I also noticed that the Sheikh(rah) was harsh when condemning the Druze and Nusayris. Please why?

The Nusayris and the Druze helped the Tatar attack the countries of Muslims and kill innocent human beings, Muslims and non-Muslims. The Nusayris and the Druze are batinis as Shaykh-ul Islam (رحمه الله) said, which means that it is a sect that is said to be Islamic but in fact isn't, it is a sect that aims to defeat Islam and destroy it.
Title: Re: Question on Ibn Taymiyyah
Post by: demmzy15 on July 16, 2016, 01:04:36 PM
Quote from: Abu Jasim Al-Salafi on July 16, 2016, 01:28:34 AM
Quote from: demmzy15 on July 16, 2016, 01:15:01 AM
Salam Alaikum,

I also noticed that the Sheikh(rah) was harsh when condemning the Druze and Nusayris. Please why?

The Nusayris and the Druze helped the Tatar attack the countries of Muslims and kill innocent human beings, Muslims and non-Muslims. The Nusayris and the Druze are batinis as Shaykh-ul Islam (رحمه الله) said, which means that it is a sect that is said to be Islamic but in fact isn't, it is a sect that aims to defeat Islam and destroy it.
Jazaka Allaah kayran Ya Akhi, please could you help me with proofs and evidences for this?
Title: Re: Question on Ibn Taymiyyah
Post by: Abu Jasim Al-Salafi on July 16, 2016, 05:38:11 PM
Quote from: demmzy15 on July 16, 2016, 01:04:36 PM
Quote from: Abu Jasim Al-Salafi on July 16, 2016, 01:28:34 AM
Quote from: demmzy15 on July 16, 2016, 01:15:01 AM
Salam Alaikum,

I also noticed that the Sheikh(rah) was harsh when condemning the Druze and Nusayris. Please why?

The Nusayris and the Druze helped the Tatar attack the countries of Muslims and kill innocent human beings, Muslims and non-Muslims. The Nusayris and the Druze are batinis as Shaykh-ul Islam (رحمه الله) said, which means that it is a sect that is said to be Islamic but in fact isn't, it is a sect that aims to defeat Islam and destroy it.
Jazaka Allaah kayran Ya Akhi, please could you help me with proofs and evidences for this?

ARABIC: http://www.dorar.net/enc/firq/3318
Title: Re: Question on Ibn Taymiyyah
Post by: Abu Jasim Al-Salafi on July 16, 2016, 05:39:46 PM
Quote from: demmzy15 on July 16, 2016, 01:04:36 PM
Quote from: Abu Jasim Al-Salafi on July 16, 2016, 01:28:34 AM
Quote from: demmzy15 on July 16, 2016, 01:15:01 AM
Salam Alaikum,

I also noticed that the Sheikh(rah) was harsh when condemning the Druze and Nusayris. Please why?

The Nusayris and the Druze helped the Tatar attack the countries of Muslims and kill innocent human beings, Muslims and non-Muslims. The Nusayris and the Druze are batinis as Shaykh-ul Islam (رحمه الله) said, which means that it is a sect that is said to be Islamic but in fact isn't, it is a sect that aims to defeat Islam and destroy it.
Jazaka Allaah kayran Ya Akhi, please could you help me with proofs and evidences for this?

Ruling on the Nusayri/Alawi Sect: https://shaykhulislaam.wordpress.com/2009/08/13/ruling-on-the-nusayrialawi-sect/