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Off Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: MuslimK on January 23, 2015, 02:32:08 AM
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Saudi King confirmed dead after suffering from pneumonia
https://twitter.com/AJEnglish/status/558405374277988352
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Inna lillahi wa rajioon.
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Some of the 12ers believed that the Mahdi will come after a ruler named Abdullah will die. I guess this proves that ahadith to be false.
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I hope the rafidis won't see this as a chance to rebel.
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Some of the 12ers believed that the Mahdi will come after a ruler named Abdullah will die. I guess this proves that ahadith to be false.
They claim that NO leader will be appointed after Abdallah and that their hidden inactive saviour will appear VERY SOON. Well, prediction number one seems to be wrong. Here from their conspiracy websites where they (as it's the trademark of their madhab) don't give a damn about chains of narrations, authenticity etc. they just narrate as they go along:
(http://forum.twelvershia.net/general-discussion/saudi-king-abdullah-dies-aged-91/?action=dlattach;attach=372)
(http://forum.twelvershia.net/general-discussion/saudi-king-abdullah-dies-aged-91/?action=dlattach;attach=374)
(http://forum.twelvershia.net/general-discussion/saudi-king-abdullah-dies-aged-91/?action=dlattach;attach=376)
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Let's summarise what we can find in their Bihar Al-Khurafat (Ocean of fairy-tales):
- The last King of Arabia will carry the name Abdallah
- He will be a homosexual and be killed by one of his faggot servants. Funny thing though: It's the Rafidi Mahdi who will be killed by a bearded lady, according to their own belief: http://gift2shias.com/2014/02/16/rafidhi-shiite-mahdi-will-be-killed-by-a-woman-who-has-a-beard-transexual/
- After Abdallah's death there will be nothing but chaos, they will chase the murderer and won't find him and their kingdom will be destroyed
- The leaders of Arabia will not agree on a leader/new king
- Most importantly: His death will be announced DURING Arafat (already proven wrong!) AND Rafidi Mahdi will suddenly pop out (according to their narrations VERY SOON after Abdallah's death) and rule the world (i.e. this Jewish spawn will start serving Persians and Jews by slaughtering Arabs whilst speaking in Hebrew language: http://gift2shias.com/2014/02/23/the-shia-madi-a-sadistic-mass-murdering-anti-arab-bigot/
I think most Muslims give a damn about the corrupt Saudi royality. As for Abdallah, then may Allah forgive him and have mercy on him. As for signs of Qiyamah, Zionism and other conspiracy theories:
The biggest (crypto-)Zionists are the Rafidah, starting from their alien beliefs in a hidden (like Dajjal!) Anti-Arab bigot (like Zionists) mass-murdering saviour (like Hitler, Stalin and co.) right upto their Rafidi state that is filled with Zionist elements, from Banks, to buildings to parliament etc:
http://sonsofsunnah.com/2011/04/16/the-dajjaal-the-shia-mahdi-the-opiate-of-the-masses/
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Who wants to throw a party in honor of this mans death?
Salawat.
May Allah curse him forever and ever. I can almost hear his torturous cries from the grave.
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Salavat with V, pronounce it with a Persian V like your Majoosi scholars from Qom otherwise you will sound like a Muslim, Sunni.
Anyway, brother Farid, I've got a question, the Rafidah make a blunt claim (of course by providing no evidence), they claim that their narrations about Abdallah being the last king of Arabia are actually Sunni narrations, omitted by the Saudi regime. I mean even if they were Sunni narrations, then it still doesn't prove their religion, their Mahdi is the dajjal, no doubt and the narrations are inconsistent anyway, still give me your input, I quote from these Zanadiqah:
From one of the Ahmad Al-Hassan sect followers:
عن رسول الله (ص):
(يحكم الحجاز رجل اسمه اسم حيوان ، إذا رأيته حسبت في عينه الحول من البعيد ، وإذا اقتربت منه لاترى في عينه شيئاً ، يخلفه أخ له اسمه عبدالله. ويل لشيعتنا منه ، أعادها ثلاثاً ؛ بشروني بموته أبشركم بظهور الحجة )
مئتان وخمسون علامة: 122
From Rasulollah (pbuhaf):
Hijaz (Saudi Arabia) will be ruled by a man whose name is the name of an animal, when you see him from a distance, you would think he has a lazy eye, and if you get close to him, you do not see anything (wrong) in his eyes. He will be succeeded by a brother of his, named Abdullah. Woe to our Shia (followers) from him! Woe to our Shia (followers) from him! Woe to our Shia (followers) from him! - he repeated it three times - Give me the good news of his death, and I shall give you the good news of the appearance of the hujjah (Imam Mahdi).
Reference: Two Hundred and Fifty Signs, sign number 122
Give me the good news of his death, and I shall give you the good news of the appearance of the hujjah (Imam Mahdi).
His death is GOOD NEWS! :)
King Abdullah's death = Appearance of Imam Mahdi (in a very short amount of time).
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This is a Sunni narration. The author of the book copied it from Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal - but now it cannot be found in Musnad Ahmad.
Some have argued that since the author of the 250 Signs book is a very reliable scholar, then the hadith must have been dropped from the new prints of Musnad Ahmad due to influence from the Saudis.
Others say the hadith does not exist - so it's false.
This can be checked if someone has a very very old copy of Musnad Ahmad - perhaps an ancient copy in a library.
Some have argued that since it was written before these kings existed, then the hadith MUST be authentic because it has spoken of future events which seem to have come true.
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Who wants to throw a party in honor of this mans death?
Salawat.
May Allah curse him forever and ever. I can almost hear his torturous cries from the grave.
That is an ugly mentality to have.
This is better:
وَالَّذِينَ جَاءُوا مِن بَعْدِهِمْ يَقُولُونَ رَبَّنَا اغْفِرْ لَنَا وَلِإِخْوَانِنَا الَّذِينَ سَبَقُونَا بِالْإِيمَانِ وَلَا تَجْعَلْ فِي قُلُوبِنَا غِلًّا لِّلَّذِينَ آمَنُوا رَبَّنَا إِنَّكَ رَءُوفٌ رَّحِيمٌ
And [there is a share for] those who came after them, saying, "Our Lord, forgive us and our brothers who preceded us in faith and put not in our hearts [any] resentment toward those who have believed. Our Lord, indeed You are Kind and Merciful.
Quran 59:10
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That is an ugly mentality to have.
This is better:
وَالَّذِينَ جَاءُوا مِن بَعْدِهِمْ يَقُولُونَ رَبَّنَا اغْفِرْ لَنَا وَلِإِخْوَانِنَا الَّذِينَ سَبَقُونَا بِالْإِيمَانِ وَلَا تَجْعَلْ فِي قُلُوبِنَا غِلًّا لِّلَّذِينَ آمَنُوا رَبَّنَا إِنَّكَ رَءُوفٌ رَّحِيمٌ
And [there is a share for] those who came after them, saying, "Our Lord, forgive us and our brothers who preceded us in faith and put not in our hearts [any] resentment toward those who have believed. Our Lord, indeed You are Kind and Merciful.
Quran 59:10
ومن يقتل مؤمنا متعمدا فجزاؤه جهنم خالدا فيها وغضب الله عليه ولعنه وأعد له عذابا عظيما
But whoever kills a believer intentionally - his recompense is Hell, wherein he will abide eternally, and Allah has become angry with him and has cursed him and has prepared for him a great punishment.
Qur'an 4:93
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That is an ugly mentality to have.
This is better:
وَالَّذِينَ جَاءُوا مِن بَعْدِهِمْ يَقُولُونَ رَبَّنَا اغْفِرْ لَنَا وَلِإِخْوَانِنَا الَّذِينَ سَبَقُونَا بِالْإِيمَانِ وَلَا تَجْعَلْ فِي قُلُوبِنَا غِلًّا لِّلَّذِينَ آمَنُوا رَبَّنَا إِنَّكَ رَءُوفٌ رَّحِيمٌ
And [there is a share for] those who came after them, saying, "Our Lord, forgive us and our brothers who preceded us in faith and put not in our hearts [any] resentment toward those who have believed. Our Lord, indeed You are Kind and Merciful.
Quran 59:10
ومن يقتل مؤمنا متعمدا فجزاؤه جهنم خالدا فيها وغضب الله عليه ولعنه وأعد له عذابا عظيما
But whoever kills a believer intentionally - his recompense is Hell, wherein he will abide eternally, and Allah has become angry with him and has cursed him and has prepared for him a great punishment.
Qur'an 4:93
Your point being?
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Taha's scholars believe we are kuffar, so it is normal for him to say such a thing. As for me, i pray for muslimin & muslimat & mukminin & mukminat who are alive & passed away, several times a day.
As far as i know Abdullah is Muslim.
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@ Ebn Hussein:
Claims of a manipulated Musnad are not to be taken seriously. Besides, there are many editions of the Musnad that were printed outside Saudi. Some are before the time of King Fahad. The manuscripts are also available online. Plus, there are books that collect the additional reports from the Musnad, like Majma Al Zawa'id.
Is this hadith there???? If not, then did the Lebanese Shi'ee publishers at Dar Al Kutub Al Ilmiyah hide it???? Maybe he is Wahabi???? Maybe I am Shi'ee because I weakened some merits of the three caliphs. Am I a Shi'ee??? Maybe Ameen is Wahabi???? Why did Brock Lesnar join Shiachat???? Did he leave the UFC for Shiachat???
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Whoever is happy should be sad because his successor will most likely be worse.
New king is called Salman, as in Salman al-Farisi, he's a Rafidi/Nasibi.
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Jazakallah khair brother Farid, Allah yiwafigak.
BTW guys, this reminds me of another (of course fake) hadith the Rafidah mainly use against IS (Da3esh). Now I could care less about Da3esh but only the Rafidah and some sects who are similar when it comes to their heresies used that hadith:
So not just their Deen but even their politics is based on fabrications.
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I hope the rafidis won't see this as a chance to rebel.
And if they do then they must be following Ameer Muavia (ra) and Hazrath Aisha (ra). They rebelled against the fourth rightly guided Khalif of the Muslims. Or is it hush hush here. Stay quiet and turn a blind eye to this. Or don't talk about and discuss this.
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:D even Farid caught the ameen virus
Really??? I didn't know you were a doctor.????????? When did you examine me?? I don't remember coming down to your surgery.
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:D even Farid caught the ameen virus
Really??? I didn't know you were a doctor.????????? When did you examine me?? I don't remember coming down to your surgery.
What??!! Really??? You think im a doctor???!! Why??? Is it because what I wrote??? Maybe I am a doctor??? But where did I study??? When did I graduate??? Do you want to know my shoe size??? Colour of my poo??? What??? Why??? What is this????
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King Abdullah buried
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/10940613_10153104469272125_6416141165937903508_n.jpg?oh=cfc071f7abd86c2fd69fcf64a4b60421&oe=552EB8C7&__gda__=1432057912_4e642b76a574df1f10408d9ae3556ab8)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/p480x480/10409213_10153104564292125_6343800840687618702_n.jpg?oh=8bb4442db29c75deedce28c658bf5627&oe=55250362&__gda__=1428769181_e0922522d2aee4301584644ab67f6afc)
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Ameen, is rebelling against Ali kufur in your opinion?
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I hope the rafidis won't see this as a chance to rebel.
And if they do then they must be following Ameer Muavia (ra) and Hazrath Aisha (ra). They rebelled against the fourth rightly guided Khalif of the Muslims. Or is it hush hush here. Stay quiet and turn a blind eye to this. Or don't talk about and discuss this.
Yes, best to remain tight lipped on the matter as discussing such events when tons of Muslims passed away brings no benefit, but fitna. It was a tragic moment in our history that both sides were not proud of and wanted closure over the moment fighting ceased.
When we go through rough patches in our lives we would not appreciate it for a second if someone kept reminding us by airing the topic for no apparent reason. Likewise we should not pollute our tongues by speaking of ill of better yet making takfir on the companions (RA), and other Muslims on what happened that day when they too lived in regret later in life unless you're Khawarij descendant?
It's best if we concentrate on those issues that Allah is going to ask us about on the Day of Judgement.
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did any one see the difference between his burial and shia leader burial....
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-nUfPVvuz2f4/T0O4SGDWxGI/AAAAAAAAACs/ZMsE7ty6-bg/s1600/makam_ayatollah.JPG)
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:D even Farid caught the ameen virus
Really??? I didn't know you were a doctor.????????? When did you examine me?? I don't remember coming down to your surgery.
What??!! Really??? You think im a doctor???!! Why??? Is it because what I wrote??? Maybe I am a doctor??? But where did I study??? When did I graduate??? Do you want to know my shoe size??? Colour of my poo??? What??? Why??? What is this????
LOL bro, have mercy on that Miskeen.
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BTW guys, apparently not just us (opponents of the religion of shirk and kufr i.e. Twelver Shia) have to fear the "re-apparance" of a fairy-tale of a non-existing 12th Imam - who was made up by a bunch (four to be precise) of heretical thieves who collected khoms from brain dead Shias 1200 years ago claiming that they are his representatives (wallahi a story so stupid but at the same time so clever that it would make the Italian Mafia look like amateurs when it comes to robbery and tricking people) - who if anything resembles the Dajjal 1 zillion times more than King Abdallah, but also the so called "Muqassirin" (short comers). Basically they (the Ghulat who accuse other Shias as Muqassirs) said that the Muqassirin "came short" of recognizing the true nature of the Imams (i.e. all the kufr the Rafidah ascribe to the Imams like them being All-Hearing, All-Seeing, controlling every atom in the universe, being superior to all Prophets, making no mistakes whatsoever, speaking all languages in the world etc. etc.)
(A Rafidi with the username Tawheed, what an oxymoron. I too was confused, they barely speak about or use the term Tawhid)
(http://forum.twelvershia.net/general-discussion/saudi-king-abdullah-dies-aged-91/?action=dlattach;attach=378)
Muqassirin according to these heretics are those Rafidah who are a bit less brain demaged, let's say like Fadhlallah and his like who rejected kufri bliefs like calling upon Ali for your needs, the belief that Omar broke the ribs (nor Mc Rib, THE ribs) of Fatimah etc. basically these are Rafidah who are closer to Sunnis and therefore closer to Tawhid and Sunnah. These are called Muqassirin (and sometimes) Batris according to these super Mushriks.
So anyway, we are supposed to be scared and hide? Did anyway hide, is anyone scared of their hidden Zionist-Safavid saviour and sad religion of excuses that every Sunni child can refute?! Did their "Mahdi" (wallahi Imam Mahdi is innocent of their sect and has nothing to do with the description of their 12th Imam) pop out?! Where the heck is he? Let me show you some tweets by one of the most notorious and knowledgable Rafidah refuters in the world, Shaykh Khaled Al-Wesabi from the land of wisdom Yemen. He said in reference to a crazy ultra-heretic from Qom/Iran, named Ali Al-Korani (originally from south Lebanon, Jabal 3Amel where the craziest most ultra-mushrik Rafidis have emerged) who wrote whole BOOKS about the so called re-apparance of his 12th Imam, even on air he said that his re-apparance's gonna be very soon, especially RIGHT after the death of Abdallah the last king of Arabia. In this thread I've already proven on what lies Shias narrations are based and that NOTHING of the prediction of their "infallible" Imam came true (despite that they championed these narrations for years!):
(http://forum.twelvershia.net/general-discussion/saudi-king-abdullah-dies-aged-91/?action=dlattach;attach=380)
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Translation of the third tweet:
"The Shia Mahdi could not reappear yesterday and today (after the death of the Saudi King) due to the bad weather conditions. Where is Al-Korani, do you maybe have another narration? Look for it, we are waiting."
LOL
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He won't appear because he is a man-made character, Allah did not say a word regarding this invented "hidden leader".
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:D even Farid caught the ameen virus
Really??? I didn't know you were a doctor. ??? ??? ??? When did you examine me?? I don't remember coming down to your surgery.
What??!! Really??? You think im a doctor???!! Why??? Is it because what I wrote??? Maybe I am a doctor??? But where did I study??? When did I graduate??? Do you want to know my shoe size??? Colour of my poo??? What??? Why??? What is this? ???
LOL. What I want to know is, how do you know that I have a virus??? Or their is such thing as Ameen Virus??? I don't want to know about you and neither am I interested. How do you know about me or if I have caught a virus??? LOL again!
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Any "funny" posts below this one will be deleted :D
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A rafidi told me today that ksa won't be stable for maybe one year or a long time, and when it gets worse the imam will show up.
Is this meant to be funny? you decide ;)
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A rafidi told me today that ksa won't be stable for maybe one year or a long time, and when it gets worse the imam will show up.
Is this meant to be funny? you decide ;)
No it's fine hehe.
Let them keep dreaming I swear by the God who created the heavens and the earth that Muhammad ibn al-Hasan al-`Askari will not show up now or ever.
He won't show up because those who spoke of his Mahdawiyyah lied upon Allah and Allah glorified be He, will not support the liars in their lies rather He will expose and humiliate them.
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No it's fine hehe.
Let them keep dreaming I swear by the God who created the heavens and the earth that Muhammad ibn al-Hasan al-`Askari will not show up now or ever.
He won't show up because those who spoke of his Mahdawiyyah lied upon Allah and Allah glorified be He, will not support the liars in their lies rather He will expose and humiliate them.
Actually he supposedly appeared back in 2007.
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That is an ugly mentality to have.
This is better:
وَالَّذِينَ جَاءُوا مِن بَعْدِهِمْ يَقُولُونَ رَبَّنَا اغْفِرْ لَنَا وَلِإِخْوَانِنَا الَّذِينَ سَبَقُونَا بِالْإِيمَانِ وَلَا تَجْعَلْ فِي قُلُوبِنَا غِلًّا لِّلَّذِينَ آمَنُوا رَبَّنَا إِنَّكَ رَءُوفٌ رَّحِيمٌ
And [there is a share for] those who came after them, saying, "Our Lord, forgive us and our brothers who preceded us in faith and put not in our hearts [any] resentment toward those who have believed. Our Lord, indeed You are Kind and Merciful.
Quran 59:10
ومن يقتل مؤمنا متعمدا فجزاؤه جهنم خالدا فيها وغضب الله عليه ولعنه وأعد له عذابا عظيما
But whoever kills a believer intentionally - his recompense is Hell, wherein he will abide eternally, and Allah has become angry with him and has cursed him and has prepared for him a great punishment.
Qur'an 4:93
Your point being?
`Abd Allah b. `Abd al-Azeez Al Saud murdered many Muslims. Hell is his final abode, according to al-Qur'an.
Anyways, I'm shocked that anybody on this forum would ben support him. He was a rabbid enemy of the Ikhwan and I thought people here would support the Ikhwan. Guess not. Hmmm.
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He didn't support him, you just don't read people's posts that well.
Thread closed as I'm sensing uselessness.