Saudi/Yemen War is not A Sunni/Shia War

[Rationalist]

I don't believe this is a Sunni Shia war. I believe this has more to do with oil. We know Iran has the ability to block the straight of Hormouz. Now with Yemen in the control of Houthis they can block another area where oil is exported from.

Although Yemen produces only a small amount of oil itself, Saudi Arabia and the Gulf Cooperation Council states are nervous of any conflict that could affect the Gulf of Aden, through which 3.8 million barrels of oil pass daily.

The unrest in the country, which some observers fear could turn into civil war or a wider regional conflict, prompted a 5% spike in the price of Brent crude today and 1.5‑2% falls on stock exchanges across the world.

http://www.ihsmaritime360.com/article/17261/ports-shut-oil-price-up-as-yemen-descends-into-chaos

[MuslimK]

True.

[Hadrami]

doesn't matter if it is or not, but once Iran stooges got hold of a country, it could be easily become one of the worst shia sunni war in middle east.

[Hani]

Definitly, Houthis are serving Iran's purpose, why do you think they're trying to capture the city of Aden? In order to seize Bab-el-Mandeb which is a gateway, a strategic link between the Indian Ocean and the Mediterranean Sea, via the Red Sea and the Suez Canal.




^ Can their goals be more obvious?

Also notice the great haste and hurry of the Houthis to try and secure this gateway under their control, could it have anything to do with the Iranian/USA negotiations taking place!? = )

[Ameen]

I don't believe this is a Sunni Shia war. I believe this has more to do with oil. We know Iran has the ability to block the straight of Hormouz. Now with Yemen in the control of Houthis they can block another area where oil is exported from.

Although Yemen produces only a small amount of oil itself, Saudi Arabia and the Gulf Cooperation Council states are nervous of any conflict that could affect the Gulf of Aden, through which 3.8 million barrels of oil pass daily.

The unrest in the country, which some observers fear could turn into civil war or a wider regional conflict, prompted a 5% spike in the price of Brent crude today and 1.5‑2% falls on stock exchanges across the world.

http://www.ihsmaritime360.com/article/17261/ports-shut-oil-price-up-as-yemen-descends-into-chaos

Absolutely. 100% true. But these brothers of ours are going to push with their anti Iranian stance. This situation along with others have got nothing to do with Shias and Sunnis. It is made to look like that because it serves Israel and the western purpose. But the Arabs are too hot headed to understand this.

[Ameen]

Definitly, Houthis are serving Iran's purpose, why do you think they're trying to capture the city of Aden? In order to seize Bab-el-Mandeb which is a gateway, a strategic link between the Indian Ocean and the Mediterranean Sea, via the Red Sea and the Suez Canal.




^ Can their goals be more obvious?

Also notice the great haste and hurry of the Houthis to try and secure this gateway under their control, could it have anything to do with the Iranian/USA negotiations taking place!? = )

And if this is true then what harm or loss is this to the Arab or Muslim world??? None what so ever but headache for the west. Why are you or the Arabs worried about the west???

[Ameen]

doesn't matter if it is or not, but once Iran stooges got hold of a country, it could be easily become one of the worst shia sunni war in middle east.

Absolute rubbish and utter nonsense. It's got nothing to do with Shias and Sunnis. But it sounds like you want to instigate that.

[Hani]

Absolutely. 100% true. But these brothers of ours are going to push with their anti Iranian stance.

Do you even understand a letter he said before you agree with him? HE'S BLAMING IT ON IRAN, he's saying it's an Arab Iranian war (which is true), re-read before you approve:

"We know Iran has the ability to block the straight of Hormouz. Now with Yemen in the control of Houthis they can block another area where oil is exported from."

Meaning, he's saying Iran is behind this war in Yemen in order to control it and threaten Saudi and the west through oil and military presence.

[Hani]

And if this is true then what harm or loss is this to the Arab or Muslim world??? None what so ever but headache for the west. Why are you or the Arabs worried about the west???

We're worried about ourselves, we don't want anymore SECTARIAN militias headed by foreign countries roaming our lands and controlling strategic points. Yemen is an Arab country, this concerns us before the "west".

[Rationalist]

Definitly, Houthis are serving Iran's purpose, why do you think they're trying to capture the city of Aden? In order to seize Bab-el-Mandeb which is a gateway, a strategic link between the Indian Ocean and the Mediterranean Sea, via the Red Sea and the Suez Canal.




^ Can their goals be more obvious?

Also notice the great haste and hurry of the Houthis to try and secure this gateway under their control, could it have anything to do with the Iranian/USA negotiations taking place!? = )

Of course they are crediting Iran. Iran was their only source of income to overthrow the current regime. But what brothers are failing to understand again and again is theysupport from Iran will not do much harm to the people of Yemen. Just read up on Imam Zayd's (as) history. He relied on the Rawafids of Kufa to help him overthrow the Ummayads. He even married their women. The problem is when they saw the large Ummayad forced they backed down and made excuses.

[Ameen]

And if this is true then what harm or loss is this to the Arab or Muslim world??? None what so ever but headache for the west. Why are you or the Arabs worried about the west???

We're worried about ourselves, we don't want anymore SECTARIAN militias headed by foreign countries roaming our lands and controlling strategic points. Yemen is an Arab country, this concerns us before the "west".

And the Arab people have had enough of monarchy style dictatorship rule, which has been going on for decades. The Arab leaders get fatter and richer and the people get poorer and thinner. They want fair and free elections. Al e Sauood and the other western puppet governments need to understand and realise this. People what power in their own hands and want to decide their own future. This is the Arab spring and by the grace of God these Arab dictators will fall eventually.

[Hani]

Of course they are crediting Iran. Iran was their only source of income to overthrow the current regime. But what brothers are failing to understand again and again is theysupport from Iran will not do much harm to the people of Yemen. Just read up on Imam Zayd's (as) history. He relied on the Rawafids of Kufa to help him overthrow the Ummayads. He even married their women. The problem is when they saw the large Ummayad forced they backed down and made excuses.

The only difference is, Zayd (rah) was a warrior and a scholar who strives for justice and to fix people's affairs, he didn't do a revolution because he was power hungry, nor because the Rawafidh paid him, nor was he sectarian at all.

The Houthi militia is a movement of cavemen, they're killing their opponents left and right, they're under complete Iranian control, their ideas and thoughts are now influenced by Rafd and Rawafid, extremists and sectarian armed men, nor are they doing it for justice and they're hungry for power and wealth.

These are not the principals Zayd (rah) stood for, may Allah have mercy on all of us.

[Ameen]

Definitly, Houthis are serving Iran's purpose, why do you think they're trying to capture the city of Aden? In order to seize Bab-el-Mandeb which is a gateway, a strategic link between the Indian Ocean and the Mediterranean Sea, via the Red Sea and the Suez Canal.




^ Can their goals be more obvious?

Also notice the great haste and hurry of the Houthis to try and secure this gateway under their control, could it have anything to do with the Iranian/USA negotiations taking place!? = )

Of course they are crediting Iran. Iran was their only source of income to overthrow the current regime. But what brothers are failing to understand again and again is theysupport from Iran will not do much harm to the people of Yemen. Just read up on Imam Zayd's (as) history. He relied on the Rawafids of Kufa to help him overthrow the Ummayads. He even married their women. The problem is when they saw the large Ummayad forced they backed down and made excuses.

And I am pretty sure you have some solid proof of this. May be you have hacked in to some Iranian government accounts. The amount of nonsense that you gentlemen come up with in the name of anti Shiaism is surprising.

[Hani]

And the Arab people have had enough of monarchy style dictatorship rule, which has been going on for decades. The Arab leaders get fatter and richer and the people get poorer and thinner. They want fair and free elections. Al e Sauood and the other western puppet governments need to understand and realise this. People what power in their own hands and want to decide their own future. This is the Arab spring and by the grace of God these Arab dictators will fall eventually.

Whether Arab dictators fall or not is something for Arabs to decide, not for Iran or the west, just because we Arabs are fed up with our corrupt leaders doesn't mean we want to self-destruct and invite foreigners with evil intentions! The Arabs tried to overthrow Bachar just like they overthrew a bunch of others before him, Iran and Russia ended up helping him remain in power over the dead bodies of his own Arab people.

[Rationalist]

And I am pretty sure you have some solid proof of this. May be you have hacked in to some Iranian government accounts. The amount of nonsense that you gentlemen come up with in the name of anti Shiaism is surprising.

Hani provided proof where Houthis supporters are holding up Khomeini picture in their protest.

[Ameen]

Of course they are crediting Iran. Iran was their only source of income to overthrow the current regime. But what brothers are failing to understand again and again is theysupport from Iran will not do much harm to the people of Yemen. Just read up on Imam Zayd's (as) history. He relied on the Rawafids of Kufa to help him overthrow the Ummayads. He even married their women. The problem is when they saw the large Ummayad forced they backed down and made excuses.

The only difference is, Zayd (rah) was a warrior and a scholar who strives for justice and to fix people's affairs, he didn't do a revolution because he was power hungry, nor because the Rawafidh paid him, nor was he sectarian at all.

The Houthi militia is a movement of cavemen, they're killing their opponents left and right, they're under complete Iranian control, their ideas and thoughts are now influenced by Rafd and Rawafid, extremists and sectarian armed men, nor are they doing it for justice and they're hungry for power and wealth.

These are not the principals Zayd (rah) stood for, may Allah have mercy on all of us.

Ok my dear. What evidence do you have for this??? Lets hear it! Or have I touched another painful nerve by asking???

[Rationalist]

The only solution is split the country into two. Those who want the Houthis go to the North side, and those who don't go to the South side. Then after that the north can make an alliance with Russia, China and Iran, and the south can make an alliance with America, Saudi Arabia and other gulf countries.

[Hani]

And I am pretty sure you have some solid proof of this. May be you have hacked in to some Iranian government accounts. The amount of nonsense that you gentlemen come up with in the name of anti Shiaism is surprising.

Hacking!? What universe are you living in ya Ameen!?? THE IRANIANS ARE SAYING THIS PUBLICLY!!

Secretary of Iran’s Supreme National Security Council Ali Shamkhani said that his country prevented the fall of Sana’a, Baghdad, Beirut and Damascus. He added, “Iran is absolutely in control of the Mediterranean Sea and Bab el-Mandeb Strait”.

Source: http://www.arabtimesonline.com/NewsDetails/tabid/96/smid/414/ArticleID/213888/reftab/36/t/Tehran-set-to-revive-Sasanian-imperialism/Default.aspx

On March 9, 2015, Iranian Supreme National Security Council secretary Ali Shamkhani stated: "Iran has linked to Bab El-Mandeb and to the Mediterranean."

Source: Fars (Iran), March 9, 2015.

Meanwhile, Ali Shamkhani, secretary of Supreme National Security Council, has reportedly boasted that Iran has a military presence in the Mediterranean Sea and Bab-el-Mandeb, a strait that connects the Red Sea to the Gulf of Aden.

Source: http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/iran-continues-boast-regional-reach-944755422#sthash.LKURsg59.dpuf

[Ameen]

And I am pretty sure you have some solid proof of this. May be you have hacked in to some Iranian government accounts. The amount of nonsense that you gentlemen come up with in the name of anti Shiaism is surprising.

Hani provided proof where Houthis supporters are holding up Khomeini picture in their protest.

And what does this prove??? Those people who kill in the name of Islam and call it jihad, would that be jihad and does Islam permit this??? Well they're using Islam's name and calling it jihad? These people are protesting and Iran is speaking out for them doesn't mean Iran is pushing them to violence or they are influenced by Iran.

Iran has also voiced for the Palestinians, be it Hamas or Fatah. And they are Ahle Sunnah. So does this mean Palestinians have become Shia or are under Iranian influence?

[Rationalist]

And what does this prove??? Those people who kill in the name of Islam and call it jihad, would that be jihad and does Islam permit this??? Well they're using Islam's name and calling it jihad? These people are protesting and Iran is speaking out for them doesn't mean Iran is pushing them to violence or they are influenced by Iran.

I never said Iran is pushing them for violence. However, Iran did train them militarily. Also, in Syria they got many Houthis to come into Yemen and fight to protect Asad's regime.

Iran has also voiced for the Palestinians, be it Hamas or Fatah. And they are Ahle Sunnah. So does this mean Palestinians have become Shia or are under Iranian influence?

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