Surely you are not referring to the Ulk incident. Even GreatChineseFall admitted that the Prophet DID NOT cut off the hands and feet of those people.
Surely you did not read all the responses, especially mine.
Re-read that thread. I posted a hadith where the Prophet would have soil only on this head...
Unfortunately for you, ShiaPen (your source for most of your material) turned on you. We have a famous saying in Afghanistan which goes, "a liar has bad memory" in the sense that when he makes his case for A, he ends up refuting his own claim B. In an attempt to prove that the Prophet [saw] would prostrate on soil, ShiaPen quoted narrations which clearly say that he [saw] had mud on his forehead and nose. Doing so hurts the Shia side of the argument since Shias barely touch anything with their noses. At best, their nose comes in contact with the prayer rug (like all Muslims); at worse, it stays dangling in the air.
“The Prophet (s) had the sign of Mud on his forehead and Nose, due to prostration on Mud”. (Sunan Abu Dawud)
“From Umm Attiya it is narrated that the Salat of one who does not place his nose right on the EARTH is not accepted”. (Kanz Ul Ammal Vol 7 Tradition No. 19804)
And here is one from our side:
The Prophet (saw) said, “There is no prayer for the one whose nose does not feel as much of the ground as the forehead". (Daaraqutni, Tabaraani (3/140/1) & Abu Nu`aim in Akhbaar Isbahaan)
Imam Abu AbdAllah (as) said, ‘Salat (prayer) does not come into being until one’s nose touches what his forehead has touched.’”(Shia books, Al-kafi, vol 3, page 334; Wasa’el ashi’a, Vol 4)
By the way, you have not accounted for your own references backfiring on you. Please re-visit that thread and see if you can reconcile between what your reference says and what you want us to believe it says.
We don't use things for sujud which can be worn but since you think paper and cotton are the same, then I am guessing you wear paper.
Wait a minute! You do not set the criteria; the Prophet [saw] does and he already did. But your double-standards is amusing when we hear you say "one must prostrate on anything that comes from earth" and make a case for paper but then reject cotton. It takes a pathetic turn when we read that the Prophet [saw] never forbade anyone to prostrate on their clothing.
Narrated Anas bin Malik: We used to pray with the Prophet (saw) in scorching heat, and if someone of us could not put his face on the earth (because of the heat) then he would spread his clothes and prostrate over them.( Sahih al-Bukhari 1208)
Seems like I am an expert in rubbing you the wrong way. Lose the hate...
You do not rub me the wrong way. Your lack of logic does! First time meeting someone who is proud of being an expert in being illogical.
I can honestly say that I consider myself to be the least knowledgeable person in the world. I know nothing about nothing.
I appreciate your humility but if you know nothing then say nothing. For someone who claims to know nothing, you say a lot.
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