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Farid

"Why don't you debate WhoaretheShia ya Farid?"
« on: December 28, 2017, 10:21:14 PM »
Alsalam alaykum wa rahmatullah,

A couple of brothers have been contacting me in private asking me to debate a member here called WhoaretheShia, and as some of you have noticed, I have avoided debating this individual. Today, I finally got some free time to write up a post as to why I never debated this individual. I will include some of my reasons below inshallah.

Apart from the usual problem of time constraints, I have noticed issues with this individual, which is why I disliked wasting time with him.

Point #1 He is a jahil in ilm al rijal and is trying to debate me in ilm al-rijal. He claims that I am biased and that I am not following proper rijali standards. He said in one of his responses to me:

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In his article, or the article he uses on TSN,he claims Ibn Hiban and two other medium/lower tear scholars have weakened him. This is not how Rijal works and Farid knows that well.

Ya miskeen... You talk to me about ilm al-rijal and you refer to Yahya bin Ma'een as a "medium/lower" tier scholar?!

Point #2. He wants to argue with me about texts and yet he doesn't know a word in Arabic.

He quotes Ibn Uthaymeen who allegedly said:  ”اخراس شٛخ ا س و اتٍ ذًّٛٛ سحًّ   انرفصٛم ٔقال إرا دػد انحاخح إنٗ إسضاع انكثٛش ٔأسضغ ثثد انرحشٚى

http://forum.twelvershia.net/general-sunni-vs-shia/permissible-for-a-mature-man-to-drink-the-milk-of-a-woman-he-wants-to-be-mahram/msg20099/#msg20099

What the heck is this language?! Is this supposed to be Arabic?!

Point #3: He expects me to respond to his threads, but he will not respond to threads that I create. I am not a defendant in a criminal court, and if he has the choice to not answer, then I have the choice to not answer. My choice not to answer this miskeen is NOT due to my inability to respond to him, and all the old members on this site know my level.


Point #4: He first joined the site as a fake Sunni and made a post asking about Rijali matters. See his post below. He used the same username on Shiachat. He also used the same material on Shiachat for his site. Why should I even entertain someone who is posing as a fake Sunnis?!



« Last Edit: December 29, 2017, 08:59:03 PM by Farid »

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Re: "Why don't you debate WhoaretheShia ya Farid?"
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2017, 12:55:59 AM »
Walaikum Salam wr wb,

Point #2. He wants to argue with me about texts and yet he doesn't know a word in Arabic.

He quotes Ibn Uthaymeen who allegedly said:  ”اخراس شٛخ ا س و اتٍ ذًّٛٛ سحًّ   انرفصٛم ٔقال إرا دػد انحاخح إنٗ إسضاع انكثٛش ٔأسضغ ثثد انرحشٚى

http://forum.twelvershia.net/general-sunni-vs-shia/permissible-for-a-mature-man-to-drink-the-milk-of-a-woman-he-wants-to-be-mahram/msg20099/#msg20099

What the heck language is this?! Is this supposed to be Arabic?!

ههههه


در خلافت میل نیست ای بی‌خبر
میل کی آید ز بوبکر و عمر
میل اگر بودی در آن دو مقتدا
هر دو کردندی پسر را پیشوا

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Re: "Why don't you debate WhoaretheShia ya Farid?"
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2017, 10:47:32 PM »
Why don’t you debate whoaretheshia Ya Farid?
They asked how many will be with the one I hate. I said 313

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Re: "Why don't you debate WhoaretheShia ya Farid?"
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2017, 11:41:40 PM »
Because he doesn't understand alien language like the Shia guy :D
در خلافت میل نیست ای بی‌خبر
میل کی آید ز بوبکر و عمر
میل اگر بودی در آن دو مقتدا
هر دو کردندی پسر را پیشوا

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Zlatan Ibrahimovic

Re: "Why don't you debate WhoaretheShia ya Farid?"
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2017, 09:41:25 AM »
My Allah bless the brother but I wish some people stay in their lane.
محور المقاومة والممانعة

Hadrami

Re: "Why don't you debate WhoaretheShia ya Farid?"
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2017, 02:39:52 PM »
My Allah bless the brother but I wish some people stay in their lane.
hahaha shia always bless liars

Zlatan Ibrahimovic

Re: "Why don't you debate WhoaretheShia ya Farid?"
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2017, 06:24:50 PM »
hahaha shia always bless liars

We tend to curse them if you haven't noticed 😎
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Noor-us-Sunnah

Re: "Why don't you debate WhoaretheShia ya Farid?"
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2017, 06:34:52 PM »
hahaha shia always bless liars
lol, obviously because the Shia guy was practicing 9/10 th of their deen.

Noor-us-Sunnah

Re: "Why don't you debate WhoaretheShia ya Farid?"
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2017, 06:42:28 PM »
We tend to curse them if you haven't noticed 😎
MashaAllah! Seems atleast u figured out that companions of Imams such as Zurarah, hisham, etc were liars. And hence you are following the Sunnah of your Imams.

Zlatan Ibrahimovic

Re: "Why don't you debate WhoaretheShia ya Farid?"
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2017, 06:46:20 PM »
MashaAllah! Seems atleast u figured out that companions of Imams such as Zurarah, hisham, etc were liars. And hence you are following the Sunnah of your Imams.

May Allah curse me if I ever come near to cursing Zurarah.
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Re: "Why don't you debate WhoaretheShia ya Farid?"
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2017, 06:52:30 PM »
May Allah curse me if I ever come near to cursing Zurarah.
Don't worry you are  from those who were cursed by Sadooq.

Zlatan Ibrahimovic

Re: "Why don't you debate WhoaretheShia ya Farid?"
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2017, 06:59:22 PM »
Don't worry you are  from those who were cursed by Sadooq.

Didn't know that.

And why's that?
محور المقاومة والممانعة

Noor-us-Sunnah

Re: "Why don't you debate WhoaretheShia ya Farid?"
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2017, 07:36:32 PM »
Didn't know that.

And why's that?

Don't you reject the possibility of Sahw from Prophet Muhammad(saws). ?

Hani

Re: "Why don't you debate WhoaretheShia ya Farid?"
« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2018, 06:45:27 AM »
I've actually debated him on some topic related to Imamah, go check that out. He got frustrated when we treated `Ali the same way he treats other Sahabah and couldn't provide reasonable defense except taking screen-shots.
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

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