11th Imam Takfir's on the Waqifis.

[Noor-us-Sunnah]

^ You shouldn't be comparing the two. Al Hasan and Al Hussain being the leaders of the youth of paradise is not an Asl of our deen. The number and names of your Imams is an Asl. It cannot be hidden knowledge held by a few. Where is the maslaha in hiding this knowledge? The evidence that the number and names were not known strongly out weighs any other argument.

To add what Farid said, the point made by ex-Shia brother apparently shows that both these cases cannot be compared.

Look at this point:

The main narrator Abu Hashim Dawud b. al-Qasim al-Ja`fari, he also narrates this narration elsewhere where he clearly seems to have no idea who the Imams are. so basically, Abu Hashim himself had thought that Abu Ja’far Muhammad b. Ali al-Hadi was going to be the next Imam until he predeceased his father. at which time “bada” is explained to have occurred. now, had he narrated from al-Jawad a hadith naming all the twelve Imams prior to that, why would he have thought any of this?

So a main narrator of hadeeth Abu Hashim having no idea about next Imam during the death of the elder son of 10th Imam couldn't have narrated a hadeeth from 9th Imam mentioning the name of all twelve Imams.  This cannot be compared to the example of Yahya Ibn Maeen not knowing the hadeeth of Hassan(ra) and Hussain(ra) being leaders of youth in paradise.

[Zlatan Ibrahimovic]

Thank you guys. I will research this matter more.