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Title: Calling Hadhrat Ali mawla?
Post by: SahabahLover on April 04, 2015, 11:40:22 PM
Is it permissible to call Hadhrat Ali Mawla?
Title: Re: Calling Hadhrat Ali mawla?
Post by: Hani on April 05, 2015, 12:01:24 AM
Yes.

Don't you call your scholars "Mawlana"? Every Muslim is your Wali.
Title: Re: Calling Hadhrat Ali mawla?
Post by: Optimus Prime on April 05, 2015, 01:53:00 AM
Quote from: SahabahLover on April 04, 2015, 11:40:22 PM
Is it permissible to call Hadhrat Ali Mawla?

By extension every Companion (RA) is our Maula not just Ali (RA).
Title: Re: Calling Hadhrat Ali mawla?
Post by: SahabahLover on April 05, 2015, 01:45:04 PM
Jazakallah
Title: Re: Calling Hadhrat Ali mawla?
Post by: SahabahLover on April 05, 2015, 01:46:48 PM
What about calling Hadhrat Ali, mushkil Kusha?
Title: Re: Calling Hadhrat Ali mawla?
Post by: Hani on April 05, 2015, 02:11:34 PM
Is that Urdu? Dude just call him `Ali, that's his name.
Title: Re: Calling Hadhrat Ali mawla?
Post by: SahabahLover on April 05, 2015, 02:22:41 PM
Yep thats Urdu, just wanted to know because a lot of Shias call him mushkil Kusha, I though only Allah is mushkil kusha!
Title: Re: Calling Hadhrat Ali mawla?
Post by: MuslimK on April 05, 2015, 04:01:14 PM
Quote from: SahabahLover on April 05, 2015, 01:46:48 PM
What about calling Hadhrat Ali, mushkil Kusha?

This is pure Shirk.

Mushkil Kusha - مشکل گشا means "The one who helps your problems". 
Title: Re: Calling Hadhrat Ali mawla?
Post by: Ameen on April 05, 2015, 10:06:12 PM
Quote from: SahabahLover on April 05, 2015, 02:22:41 PM
Yep thats Urdu, just wanted to know because a lot of Shias call him mushkil Kusha, I though only Allah is mushkil kusha!

Not just Shias but also a lot of Sunnis call him that as well.
Title: Re: Calling Hadhrat Ali mawla?
Post by: Ameen on April 05, 2015, 10:11:55 PM
Quote from: Hani on April 05, 2015, 02:11:34 PM
Is that Urdu? Dude just call him `Ali, that's his name.

Yes, that is a nice one. Just call people by their names. Abu Bakar rather than Abu Bakar Sadeeq. Because he wasn't the only one. All the Sahaba were Sadeeq just as Abu Bakar and just like him, according to the Ahle Sunnah.

Umar, instead of Umar Farooq. Because the same thing applies here. All the Sahaba were equal and the same. And Usman, instead of Usman Ghani. Why is the controversy from some gentlemen only surrounding and about Ali???!
Title: Re: Calling Hadhrat Ali mawla?
Post by: Optimus Prime on April 05, 2015, 10:14:58 PM
Quote from: SahabahLover on April 05, 2015, 02:22:41 PM
Yep thats Urdu, just wanted to know because a lot of Shias call him mushkil Kusha, I though only Allah is mushkil kusha!

Brother, as Hani said stick with Ali or any other names referred to him confirmed in the Sunnah i.e. Abu Turab or Abu Hasan. The people Ali (RA) knew in reality addressed with the above nicknames.
Title: Re: Calling Hadhrat Ali mawla?
Post by: Hani on April 05, 2015, 11:39:22 PM
Quote from: Ameen on April 05, 2015, 10:11:55 PM
Why is the controversy from some gentlemen only surrounding and about Ali???!

You can call anyone by these honorary titles, you just don't have to. I usually refer to most people by their names except the Prophet (saw).
Title: Re: Calling Hadhrat Ali mawla?
Post by: Sheikh on April 07, 2015, 03:47:48 AM
Names & Titles of Ali:
NOT Mushkil Kusha, Mazhar al-`ajaib, etc.


Is this clear enough for you, Ameen?
Title: Re: Calling Hadhrat Ali mawla?
Post by: Hani on April 07, 2015, 04:03:13 PM
Dude the Shia invented like a billion titles for him, like Ya`soub and whatever... I bet you he has more titles than the Prophet (saw).
Title: Re: Calling Hadhrat Ali mawla?
Post by: Hani on April 07, 2015, 04:08:09 PM
Look at this, this is the website of one of their popular scholars, he lists like 70 titles for him then he says "These are only a few out of many".

MEANING, Twelver Shia glorify `Ali more than Allah and his Prophet (saw).

Link: http://www.mezan.net/mawsouat/ali/alkab.html

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