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Difference between Akhbari and Usouli Shia

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Hani

Difference between Akhbari and Usouli Shia
« on: July 28, 2014, 01:18:13 PM »
al-Salamu `Aleykum,


The big renowned Akhbari Imami scholar, al-Shaykh `Abdullah bin Salih al-Samahiji al-Bahrani, wrote a descent book "Muniyat al-Mumariseen" declaring the differences between the Akhbaris and the Usoulis, an important part of this book can be found translated to English by Andrew J. Newman on this link:
http://www.4shared.com/file/116316867/3456e6a8/______.html


Original Arabic can be found in the website of al-Shaykh Muhsin Aal-`Usfour:
http://www.al-asfoor.org/mkt/mkt/140/


And YES, this scholar does believe the Qur'an is corrupted, he says in the same book:


القران الذي الفه عثمان والذي بين ايدي الناس وقع به التغيير والائمة امروا شيعتهم به استصلاحا وتقية لئلا تقع الفتنة العظمى والمصيبة الكبرى في اصل دين الاسلام


[The Qur'an compiled by `Uthman and the one in people's hands, was in fact changed. The Imams ordered their Shia to follow it as that was for the best, also out of Taqiyyah so as to avoid a great Fitnah and calamity in the foundations of the Islamic religion.]


And a scan of that is found here with praise for him by al-Sayyid `Abdullah al-Jaza'iri, Yusuf al-Bahrani and Shaykh `Ali al-Biladi:
http://www.dd-sunnah.net/forum/showthread.php?t=172567
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

Hani

Re: Difference between Akhbari and Usouli Shia
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2017, 05:16:36 AM »
Bumping this, someone asked me about difference between Akhbaris and Usulis, this book is the best book on the subject.
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

iceman

Re: Difference between Akhbari and Usouli Shia
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2017, 02:26:28 PM »
Bumping this, someone asked me about difference between Akhbaris and Usulis, this book is the best book on the subject.

A lot of people have asked me about the differences between the four Ahle Sunah schools of thought. Any advice on that. Also people want to know the difference between suni deobandi, wahabi, salafi, barelvi, ahle hadees etc, any suggestions?

Abu Muhammad

Re: Difference between Akhbari and Usouli Shia
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2017, 07:39:47 PM »
A lot of people have asked me about the differences between the four Ahle Sunah schools of thought. Any advice on that. Also people want to know the difference between suni deobandi, wahabi, salafi, barelvi, ahle hadees etc, any suggestions?

Differences are expected in Sunnis since we haven't got any infallible imam to refer to after Rasulullah (saw).

However, you do not expect that to happen to Twelver Shiism since God is so graceful that infallible imam is a must have on this world at any one time to guide people to the truth. He cannot err and disunity among his follower is impossible.

However, if that infallible guy is a coward and keep on hiding for thousand years despite his enemies were gone for more than 700 years, you will expect the Twelvers will basically be like Sunnis i.e, depending on fallible scholars and have variety of school of thoughts.

GreatChineseFall

Re: Difference between Akhbari and Usouli Shia
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2017, 10:44:13 PM »
Are there any notable classical Usuli Shia sholars who believed in tahreef?

 

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