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Hazrat Ali did sahjah to idols

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Bolani Muslim

Hazrat Ali did sahjah to idols
« on: April 15, 2015, 01:42:29 AM »
Salaam guys, a thought came to me. Hazrat Ali (ra) was supposedly born in the Kaaba, and all imams do Sajdah and praise Allah when born (something our Prophet couldn't). One issue is, is that Hazrat Ali was born 20 years before any idols were taken out, so that means he cannot be 'Karamallah Wajhu' (since he bowed down to idols). Another issue being that his mother (an extremely pious Muslim before Prophet) was at a pagan temple and most and had no way to know that Kaaba was holy to anyone besides Pagans.

Are you guys convinced by these pictures? http://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/39973-the-eternal-crack-on-the-wall-of-the-holy-kaaba/

Bolani Muslim

Re: Hazrat Ali did sahjah to idols
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2015, 02:04:02 AM »
I read an old post from Abu Muslim Khoraisani and he showed this video of the 'crack' of the Kaaba. The hilarious part is that none of the people realize it's just Paint and the outer layer of the kaaba scratched away by millions of crazy Shias over hundreds of years (like dripping water will carve a rock) and that NO definite crack is visible.

Suleiman

Re: Hazrat Ali did sahjah to idols
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2015, 10:11:33 AM »
Quote from: Shia Chat
Now look at the Upper right Pillar, and look at the repairs the Wahabi led authorities tried to cover over the cracks showing the opening of the wall:

Its those naughty wahabis again, repairing the walls of the Ka'bah and what not!!!

Oh God, this is gold:

Quote from: Shia Chat
Didn't Yazid demolish the Kaaba? I can clearly remember Sayed Mehdi Modarresi mentioning that in one of his Muharram lectures. I am not denying the miracle. It could well be that even after its reconstruction the crack reappeared as a reminder to humanity of the truth about our beloved Imam Ali (as). It is as if the Kaaba says: you may destroy me but I will rise again and still declare: Ya ali madad!

who knows...
Quote from: Shia Chat- member M59

Hadrami

Re: Hazrat Ali did sahjah to idols
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2015, 01:02:38 PM »
Are you guys convinced by these pictures? http://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/39973-the-eternal-crack-on-the-wall-of-the-holy-kaaba/

some of the comments on that shitchat thread are just :D. So we have a door there, but let's just go in & out thru a crack in the wall to spice things up eh? And when someone fixed it then it must be a conspiracy to hide the truth!!! Shiaism is more dangerous to your brain than crack (pun intended)

Hani

Re: Hazrat Ali did sahjah to idols
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2015, 09:11:11 PM »
ppl go to Hajj to visit the Ka`bah, Shia go to visit the crack.... it baffles me that some old SC members actually buy it.

Read:
"InshAllah all brothers and sisters will have the privilege to go for hajj and see for themselves the miraculous and eternal crack on the wall of kaba which has witnessed the birth of our Commander of Faithful!"
« Last Edit: April 15, 2015, 09:20:41 PM by Hani »
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

Hani

Re: Hazrat Ali did sahjah to idols
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2015, 09:16:16 PM »
Look at this:
"There are many beautiful Miracles all over the Holy city of Mecca, adding the Miracles of the Holy City of Medina, the over whelming evidence of the supremacy of the House Hold of the Prophet is quite evident."


If a crack in a rock is evidence for `Ali's superiority, I rest my case.
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

Hani

Re: Hazrat Ali did sahjah to idols
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2015, 09:25:34 PM »
TODAY I FOUND A CRACK IN MY KITCHEN WALL!!! COULD IT MEAN ANYTHING!!?
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

Mythbuster1

Re: Hazrat Ali did sahjah to idols
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2015, 09:59:36 PM »
Could someone tell these Shiites that...........
......"In 693 AD, ʿAbdu l-Malik had the remnants of al-Zubayr's Kaaba razed, and rebuilt on the foundations set by the Quraysh.The Kaaba returned to the cube shape it had taken during Muhammad's time."

So it was razed (demolished)

Suleiman

Re: Hazrat Ali did sahjah to idols
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2015, 11:20:55 PM »
TODAY I FOUND A CRACK IN MY KITCHEN WALL!!! COULD IT MEAN ANYTHING!!?

Its as if the kitchen wall is saying "Ya Ali madad".

Who knows ????   ??? ??? ???

Bolani Muslim

Re: Hazrat Ali did sahjah to idols
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2015, 11:35:07 PM »
Could someone tell these Shiites that...........
......"In 693 AD, ʿAbdu l-Malik had the remnants of al-Zubayr's Kaaba razed, and rebuilt on the foundations set by the Quraysh.The Kaaba returned to the cube shape it had taken during Muhammad's time."

So it was razed (demolished)
The kaaba's been rebuilt 5 times (so I've heard).

Furkan

Re: Hazrat Ali did sahjah to idols
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2015, 02:00:29 AM »
A shia once told me that non-masooms cant repair the kaaba.

I told him that Yazid once damaged it and later on the khawarij stole the Black Stone but was returened by a caliph.
Before Qazî Mihemed, President of the first kurdish Republic Mahabad was hanged the iranian judge asked:

“last words?”

Qazî: “I thank Allah: even in death he put my shoes above your heads”

Hadrami

Re: Hazrat Ali did sahjah to idols
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2015, 03:56:40 AM »
TODAY I FOUND A CRACK IN MY KITCHEN WALL!!! COULD IT MEAN ANYTHING!!?

be careful, the cockroaches will come out to kill TS admins :D

Suleiman

Re: Hazrat Ali did sahjah to idols
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2015, 04:04:11 AM »
They only crawl towards the shrines.

Bolani Muslim

Re: Hazrat Ali did sahjah to idols
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2015, 04:31:18 AM »
A shia once told me that non-masooms cant repair the kaaba.

I told him that Yazid once damaged it and later on the khawarij stole the Black Stone but was returened by a caliph.
It was actually SHIAS (Qarmatians) that stole the black stone (as well as killing 10,000s of Hajjis, and later shattering the black stone).

Mythbuster1

Re: Hazrat Ali did sahjah to idols
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2015, 10:36:02 AM »
Huh??? They cry that wahabies keep covering up the crack??.......but their own ancestors the qarmations (Shiites) destroyed it?????

OH THE IRONY


 

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