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Title: Immediate Calipah After Prophet Sulaiman (as)?
Post by: Rationalist on December 31, 2019, 07:46:33 AM
The 12er Shia believe that a Prophet must appoint a Calipah. Can they tell us who succeeded the Calipahate of Prophet Sulaiman (as)? 
Title: Re: Immediate Calipah After Prophet Sulaiman (as)?
Post by: iceman on January 01, 2020, 06:16:31 PM
The 12er Shia believe that a Prophet must appoint a Calipah. Can they tell us who succeeded the Calipahate of Prophet Sulaiman (as)?

We believe that Muhammad s.a.w named and appointed someone to govern after him. On the orders of Allah. This wasn't just Ali but the household of Ali. They were chosen to govern the Muslim Ummah and take charge of its affairs after Muhammad s.a.w. There is numerous amount of evidence within Qur'an and Sunnah regarding this despite those who pushed their way into authority and did their best to do away with what ever or who ever threatened or opposed their decision and position.
Title: Re: Immediate Calipah After Prophet Sulaiman (as)?
Post by: Rationalist on January 01, 2020, 08:41:25 PM
So iceman for 12er Shia the rule isn't that every Prophet must appoint a Calipah? It is just the case for the ummah?
Title: Re: Immediate Calipah After Prophet Sulaiman (as)?
Post by: Salavaaat on January 01, 2020, 09:23:22 PM
We believe that Muhammad s.a.w named and appointed someone to govern after him. On the orders of Allah. This wasn't just Ali but the household of Ali. They were chosen to govern the Muslim Ummah and take charge of its affairs after Muhammad s.a.w. There is numerous amount of evidence within Qur'an and Sunnah regarding this despite those who pushed their way into authority and did their best to do away with what ever or who ever threatened or opposed their decision and position.

Thats why in nahjul balaghah sermon 226 Ali says he refused khilafah until the people forced him.

In other words according to shias he was disobeying Allah and hence not an infallible