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Jahalah of Hertz exposed by Shias

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Aba AbdAllah

Jahalah of Hertz exposed by Shias
« on: July 31, 2015, 07:34:07 AM »
On Shiaschat Abu Jafar Hertz the intelligent and rational(sarcasm) guy posted his research about Sunnis hadeeth being not rational.

He said:

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So let us start with the first hadith.
 
It was narrated from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) that women will form the majority of the people of Hell. It was narrated from ‘Imran ibn Husayn that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “I looked into Paradise and I saw that the majority of its people were the poor. And I looked into Hell and I saw that the majority of its people are women.”
 
(Narrated by al-Bukhari, 3241; Muslim, 2737)
 
Also we see that they also form the minority in heaven .
 
Imran b. Husain reported that Allaah's Messenger (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) said: Amongst the inmates of Paradise the women would form a minority.(No. 6600 Sahih Bukhari
 
These ahadith are obviously wrong for 2 reasons.
 
1- It contradicts other established reports in the Sunni books that each Muslim will have 2 wives from earth.  If every man on earth is going to have 2 wives then how can the women be the minority in heaven and majority in hell?
 
2- There is no rational reason to believe that Women are inherently more evil than men, nor is there any reason to believe that Allah [swt] just happen to create the souls who made make bad decisions as women.

This Jahalah of Hertz was refuted by another Shia named Ali Musa who said:

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I don't think the above is a fair assessment.

Just because one sex forms the majority in hell doesnt neccessarily mean it forms the minority in heaven. What if there are more birth rates of women per man? Statstically, if im not mistaken, this is actually the case in many modern societies(?) As you said, if men are give two spouses in Heaven, women obviously comprise the majority of inhabitants of Paradise but I dont see how they still cannot form the majority of hell, especially if there are 1. more women physically born in this wold, and 2. more created in Jannah.
http://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/235031708-bukhari-and-al-kafi/

Hadrami

Re: Jahalah of Hertz exposed by Shias
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2015, 08:22:25 AM »
this is a man who believes giving up your daughter to the abuser of your wife & killer of your unborn baby is a quality of a best judge bro :D
« Last Edit: July 31, 2015, 08:25:44 AM by Hadrami »

Moin

Re: Jahalah of Hertz exposed by Shias
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2015, 10:01:41 AM »
If we are to count Ghilman of paradise as men then the claim that Jannah will have higher number of women will be speculative.

 

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