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Major Shia sects explained ┇Shaikh Tawfique Chowdhury

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taha taha

Major Shia sects explained ┇Shaikh Tawfique Chowdhury
« on: September 10, 2016, 12:18:06 AM »
Major Shia sects explained ┇Shaikh Tawfique Chowdhury


Rationalist

Re: Major Shia sects explained ┇Shaikh Tawfique Chowdhury
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2016, 04:41:38 PM »
When we have scholars talking about Shias they have to do takfir. :(

taha taha

Re: Major Shia sects explained ┇Shaikh Tawfique Chowdhury
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2016, 05:18:02 PM »
1 - I don't think he is a scholar, he is passing what he studied.
2 - There were a lot of good Scholars, Sunnah Imam and students of knowledge who were killed in Iraq, who didn't do takfeer, yet their lives were easy disposed of.
3 - Sometime there is kufar doon a kufar.

 

Rationalist

Re: Major Shia sects explained ┇Shaikh Tawfique Chowdhury
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2016, 08:01:28 PM »
I want more lectures on 12er Shia hadith books, scholars such Kuylani, Mufid, Saduq and the early Rafidah such as Hisham bin Hakam, Hisham ibn Salim, Zurara etc...

In these lectures we should not only focus on bashing them, but try present a neutral view on them.

Rationalist

Re: Major Shia sects explained ┇Shaikh Tawfique Chowdhury
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2016, 08:07:44 PM »
When you debate with a 12ers the debates here is what you mostly cover:
  Umar did this bidah or that bidah, he should be cursed...
Abu Hanifa is supposedly cursed for using Qiyas..
Saqifah
etc..
Rarely do they ever cover 12er Shia hadith. Even in their seerah lectures its mostly there birthdays,  and the oppression they faced etc..
I met a couple of Jews, and all they talked about is the holocaust and how Sunni Muslims killed them in the past, and gave them no freedom. Then they try to neutralize the situation by giving good examples such as Morocco.

Then I got into a discussion about Prophet Musa and Semitic Prophets, and we actually had a decent conversation. The Jewish girl then told me we covered more details then she would with any other Jew.

Likewise, I believe we should have similar positive relations with the 12er Shia. 

 

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