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Sunni Shia Discussion Forum => General Sunni-Shia => Topic started by: scusemyenglish on May 09, 2016, 09:54:34 PM
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Salam I have seen you have made an article about the claim of Marwan and Muawiya conspyracy
I want to know.
I have read many time that Marwan El Hakim killed Talha during the siffin Battle.
And it's hims who has sent letters for fight the rebellion against Othman.
You have information about that?
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I have also read it's him who had burnt the original koran "of Hafsa"
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بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
The lie that Marwan Ibn-ul Hakam killed Talha Ibn Ubaidullah (رضي الله عنه) was first said by Al-Waqqidi, a very known liar in the books of Rijjal (علم الرجال). There is nothing that proves that, how can Marwan kill Talha when he was in the same army as Talha (R.A)?
There is also nothing that proves Marwan Ibn-ul Hakam sent letters encouraging the murder/killing of Sayyidna Uthman (رضي الله عنه).
Regarding the burning of the 'Mushaf' of Hafsa (رضي الله عنها), here's why he did that:
When Marwan Ibn-ul Hakam asked Hafsa (رضي الله عنها) for her Mushaf to burn, he was going to do that so that no one thinks that there is something in her Mushaf that contradicts the other Masahif (collection of Mushaf), Hafsa (رضي الله عنها) denied the request to burn her Mushaf and kept it with her until the day she died. After she died, Marwan Ibn-ul Hakam requested for the Mushaf of Hafsa to burn, the reason as I showed is that he didn't want people to think that her Mushaf (Hafsa) contains things that are not in other Mushaf(s), that's all!
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بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
The lie that Marwan Ibn-ul Hakam killed Talha Ibn Ubaidullah (رضي الله عنه) was first said by Al-Waqqidi, a very known liar in the books of Rijjal (علم الرجال). There is nothing that proves that, how can Marwan kill Talha when he was in the same army as Talha (R.A)?
There is also nothing that proves Marwan Ibn-ul Hakam sent letters encouraging the murder/killing of Sayyidna Uthman (رضي الله عنه).
Regarding the burning of the 'Mushaf' of Hafsa (رضي الله عنها), here's why he did that:
When Marwan Ibn-ul Hakam asked Hafsa (رضي الله عنها) for her Mushaf to burn, he was going to do that so that no one thinks that there is something in her Mushaf that contradicts the other Masahif (collection of Mushaf), Hafsa (رضي الله عنها) denied the request to burn her Mushaf and kept it with her until the day she died. After she died, Marwan Ibn-ul Hakam requested for the Mushaf of Hafsa to burn, the reason as I showed is that he didn't want people to think that her Mushaf (Hafsa) contains things that are not in other Mushaf(s), that's all!
Sahit.
Apparently Marwan El Hakim was married was one daughter of Ali.
And Hussain, and hassan prayed behind him.