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Calling Hadhrat Ali mawla?

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SahabahLover

Calling Hadhrat Ali mawla?
« on: April 04, 2015, 11:40:22 PM »
Is it permissible to call Hadhrat Ali Mawla?

Hani

Re: Calling Hadhrat Ali mawla?
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2015, 12:01:24 AM »
Yes.

Don't you call your scholars "Mawlana"? Every Muslim is your Wali.
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

Optimus Prime

Re: Calling Hadhrat Ali mawla?
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2015, 01:53:00 AM »
Is it permissible to call Hadhrat Ali Mawla?

By extension every Companion (RA) is our Maula not just Ali (RA).

SahabahLover

Re: Calling Hadhrat Ali mawla?
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2015, 01:45:04 PM »
Jazakallah

SahabahLover

Re: Calling Hadhrat Ali mawla?
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2015, 01:46:48 PM »
What about calling Hadhrat Ali, mushkil Kusha?

Hani

Re: Calling Hadhrat Ali mawla?
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2015, 02:11:34 PM »
Is that Urdu? Dude just call him `Ali, that's his name.
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

SahabahLover

Re: Calling Hadhrat Ali mawla?
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2015, 02:22:41 PM »
Yep thats Urdu, just wanted to know because a lot of Shias call him mushkil Kusha, I though only Allah is mushkil kusha!

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Re: Calling Hadhrat Ali mawla?
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2015, 04:01:14 PM »
What about calling Hadhrat Ali, mushkil Kusha?

This is pure Shirk.

Mushkil Kusha - مشکل گشا means "The one who helps your problems". 
در خلافت میل نیست ای بی‌خبر
میل کی آید ز بوبکر و عمر
میل اگر بودی در آن دو مقتدا
هر دو کردندی پسر را پیشوا

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Ameen

Re: Calling Hadhrat Ali mawla?
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2015, 10:06:12 PM »
Yep thats Urdu, just wanted to know because a lot of Shias call him mushkil Kusha, I though only Allah is mushkil kusha!

Not just Shias but also a lot of Sunnis call him that as well.

Ameen

Re: Calling Hadhrat Ali mawla?
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2015, 10:11:55 PM »
Is that Urdu? Dude just call him `Ali, that's his name.

Yes, that is a nice one. Just call people by their names. Abu Bakar rather than Abu Bakar Sadeeq. Because he wasn't the only one. All the Sahaba were Sadeeq just as Abu Bakar and just like him, according to the Ahle Sunnah.

Umar, instead of Umar Farooq. Because the same thing applies here. All the Sahaba were equal and the same. And Usman, instead of Usman Ghani. Why is the controversy from some gentlemen only surrounding and about Ali???!

Optimus Prime

Re: Calling Hadhrat Ali mawla?
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2015, 10:14:58 PM »
Yep thats Urdu, just wanted to know because a lot of Shias call him mushkil Kusha, I though only Allah is mushkil kusha!

Brother, as Hani said stick with Ali or any other names referred to him confirmed in the Sunnah i.e. Abu Turab or Abu Hasan. The people Ali (RA) knew in reality addressed with the above nicknames.

Hani

Re: Calling Hadhrat Ali mawla?
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2015, 11:39:22 PM »
Why is the controversy from some gentlemen only surrounding and about Ali???!

You can call anyone by these honorary titles, you just don't have to. I usually refer to most people by their names except the Prophet (saw).
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

Sheikh

Re: Calling Hadhrat Ali mawla?
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2015, 03:47:48 AM »
Names & Titles of Ali:
  • Abu Turab
  • Abu'l Hassan
  • Ibn Abi Taleb
  • Amir'ul Mumineen
  • al-Murtada
  • Haydar
  • Bab al-Madinat'ul `ilm
NOT Mushkil Kusha, Mazhar al-`ajaib, etc.


Is this clear enough for you, Ameen?

Hani

Re: Calling Hadhrat Ali mawla?
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2015, 04:03:13 PM »
Dude the Shia invented like a billion titles for him, like Ya`soub and whatever... I bet you he has more titles than the Prophet (saw).
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

Hani

Re: Calling Hadhrat Ali mawla?
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2015, 04:08:09 PM »
Look at this, this is the website of one of their popular scholars, he lists like 70 titles for him then he says "These are only a few out of many".

MEANING, Twelver Shia glorify `Ali more than Allah and his Prophet (saw).

Link: http://www.mezan.net/mawsouat/ali/alkab.html

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عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

 

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