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Rules of Mutah Marriage Revealed! (Video)

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Hani

Rules of Mutah Marriage Revealed! (Video)
« on: July 11, 2016, 12:10:53 AM »
Al-Salamu `Aleykum,

I made a video explaining the flawed rules and the disaster which is the Shia Mutah Marriage.



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عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

Re: Rules of Mutah Marriage Revealed! (Video)
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2016, 11:16:29 PM »
A very nice and educative video.

My first time of seeing brother Hani's face though  :D

fgss

Re: Rules of Mutah Marriage Revealed! (Video)
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2016, 06:12:20 PM »
Really nice informative video brother Hani.
You should also make short videos about other major shia-sunni conflicts or about some lesser known facts like this, if possible.

I am also seeing him first time. Firstly I thought hani is a girl  :)
« Last Edit: July 12, 2016, 06:14:41 PM by Fahad Sani »
إِنَّ أَصْدَقَ الْحَدِيثِ كِتَابُ اللَّهِ وَأَحْسَنَ الْهَدْىِ هَدْىُ مُحَمَّدٍ وَشَرَّ الأُمُورِ مُحْدَثَاتُهَا وَكُلَّ مُحْدَثَةٍ بِدْعَةٌ وَكُلَّ بِدْعَةٍ ضَلاَلَةٌ وَكُلَّ ضَلاَلَةٍ فِي النَّارِ

May Allah guide us to the true teachings of Quran and Sunnah of His beloved Prophet (s.a.w.w). Ameen

Hani

Re: Rules of Mutah Marriage Revealed! (Video)
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2016, 08:03:15 PM »
How is Hani a Giirl!!? LooL, unless you're Korean : p
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

fgss

Re: Rules of Mutah Marriage Revealed! (Video)
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2016, 08:10:50 PM »
No, not now. When I first saw this name Hani, few years back. Its like a girl's name. That's why  ???
إِنَّ أَصْدَقَ الْحَدِيثِ كِتَابُ اللَّهِ وَأَحْسَنَ الْهَدْىِ هَدْىُ مُحَمَّدٍ وَشَرَّ الأُمُورِ مُحْدَثَاتُهَا وَكُلَّ مُحْدَثَةٍ بِدْعَةٌ وَكُلَّ بِدْعَةٍ ضَلاَلَةٌ وَكُلَّ ضَلاَلَةٍ فِي النَّارِ

May Allah guide us to the true teachings of Quran and Sunnah of His beloved Prophet (s.a.w.w). Ameen

ShiaMan

Re: Rules of Mutah Marriage Revealed! (Video)
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2016, 09:22:55 PM »
No, not now. When I first saw this name Hani, few years back. Its like a girl's name. That's why  ???
Nice to see you here brother.

Question for Hani: Did Mutah marriages take place during the lifetime of the Prophet?

Noor-us-Sunnah

Re: Rules of Mutah Marriage Revealed! (Video)
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2016, 02:59:13 AM »
the topic is about, the Shia rules about Mutah, which Hani wants to show that they don't have any related to what was practiced before it was made forbidden.

ShiaMan

Re: Rules of Mutah Marriage Revealed! (Video)
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2016, 03:31:59 AM »
the topic is about, the Shia rules about Mutah, which Hani wants to show that they don't have any related to what was practiced before it was made forbidden.

We are not there yet. For you guys, I am going to keep it real simple so first, are we in agreement that mutah used to take place during the lifetime of the Prophet?

Noor-us-Sunnah

Re: Rules of Mutah Marriage Revealed! (Video)
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2016, 04:42:03 AM »
the topic is about, the Shia rules about Mutah, which Hani wants to show that they don't have any related to what was practiced before it was made forbidden.

We are not there yet. For you guys, I am going to keep it real simple so first, are we in agreement that mutah used to take place during the lifetime of the Prophet?
Follow the topic. Derailing the topic is a typical Shia tactics to cover the blunders in their fiqh.

ShiaMan

Re: Rules of Mutah Marriage Revealed! (Video)
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2016, 05:04:56 AM »
the topic is about, the Shia rules about Mutah, which Hani wants to show that they don't have any related to what was practiced before it was made forbidden.

We are not there yet. For you guys, I am going to keep it real simple so first, are we in agreement that mutah used to take place during the lifetime of the Prophet?
Follow the topic. Derailing the topic is a typical Shia tactics to cover the blunders in their fiqh.

How am I derailing when I am talking about mutah?

Noor-us-Sunnah

Re: Rules of Mutah Marriage Revealed! (Video)
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2016, 05:11:43 AM »
the topic is about, the Shia rules about Mutah, which Hani wants to show that they don't have any related to what was practiced before it was made forbidden.

We are not there yet. For you guys, I am going to keep it real simple so first, are we in agreement that mutah used to take place during the lifetime of the Prophet?
Follow the topic. Derailing the topic is a typical Shia tactics to cover the blunders in their fiqh.

How am I derailing when I am talking about mutah?

Its about RULES of Mutah as per Shias, the topic isn't about legitimacy of Mutah, Hani has kept that for some other day.

ShiaMan

Re: Rules of Mutah Marriage Revealed! (Video)
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2016, 05:32:46 AM »
the topic is about, the Shia rules about Mutah, which Hani wants to show that they don't have any related to what was practiced before it was made forbidden.

We are not there yet. For you guys, I am going to keep it real simple so first, are we in agreement that mutah used to take place during the lifetime of the Prophet?
Follow the topic. Derailing the topic is a typical Shia tactics to cover the blunders in their fiqh.

How am I derailing when I am talking about mutah?

Its about RULES of Mutah as per Shias, the topic isn't about legitimacy of Mutah, Hani has kept that for some other day.

Have you seen the video? What is the first thing he says about mutah?

fgss

Re: Rules of Mutah Marriage Revealed! (Video)
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2016, 09:14:59 AM »
Nice to see you here brother.

Same here brother. I hope SC will be back soon without any losses  :)
« Last Edit: July 13, 2016, 09:17:56 AM by Fahad Sani »
إِنَّ أَصْدَقَ الْحَدِيثِ كِتَابُ اللَّهِ وَأَحْسَنَ الْهَدْىِ هَدْىُ مُحَمَّدٍ وَشَرَّ الأُمُورِ مُحْدَثَاتُهَا وَكُلَّ مُحْدَثَةٍ بِدْعَةٌ وَكُلَّ بِدْعَةٍ ضَلاَلَةٌ وَكُلَّ ضَلاَلَةٍ فِي النَّارِ

May Allah guide us to the true teachings of Quran and Sunnah of His beloved Prophet (s.a.w.w). Ameen

Noor-us-Sunnah

Re: Rules of Mutah Marriage Revealed! (Video)
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2016, 03:34:11 PM »
the topic is about, the Shia rules about Mutah, which Hani wants to show that they don't have any related to what was practiced before it was made forbidden.

We are not there yet. For you guys, I am going to keep it real simple so first, are we in agreement that mutah used to take place during the lifetime of the Prophet?
Follow the topic. Derailing the topic is a typical Shia tactics to cover the blunders in their fiqh.

How am I derailing when I am talking about mutah?

Its about RULES of Mutah as per Shias, the topic isn't about legitimacy of Mutah, Hani has kept that for some other day.

Have you seen the video? What is the first thing he says about mutah?

Again, dont behave in a typical Shia way, don't cherry pick statements. The purpose of the video has been mentioned clearly in the first post by Hani. Which is regarding Rules of Mutah. That is the whole purpose of the video, if you ever watched it.

Hani

Re: Rules of Mutah Marriage Revealed! (Video)
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2016, 05:12:50 PM »
Do you accept the clear narrations where the Prophet (saw) bans Mutah?
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

ShiaMan

Re: Rules of Mutah Marriage Revealed! (Video)
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2016, 06:51:39 PM »
Do you accept the clear narrations where the Prophet (saw) bans Mutah?

That is the discussion to be had. But first, do you agree that mutah used to take place during the life of the Prophet and in fact it was permissible in Islam to do so until the Prophet allegedly banned it. If it was allowed, what were the rules under which it was allowed and how are those rules different from how the shia today do it?

While Noor-Us-Sunnah may disagree with my line of questioning, we have to start from basics to get to the truth as I am sure you will agree.

Hani

Re: Rules of Mutah Marriage Revealed! (Video)
« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2016, 03:45:20 AM »
Mut`ah was originally forbidden, then allowed as a Rukhsah by the Prophet (saw) for a circumstance then later forbidden again.

Ibn `Abbas himself says it was practiced as Rukhsah in extreme times of war when their wives were not allowed. This is the Companion you guys often quote, what wars are you having today sir? Rules of Mut`ah of your sect are all invented by your sect, there's no evidence that this was the same Mut`ah that was allowed in the above circumstance.
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

muslim720

Re: Rules of Mutah Marriage Revealed! (Video)
« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2016, 04:00:33 AM »
While Noor-Us-Sunnah may disagree with my line of questioning, we have to start from basics to get to the truth as I am sure you will agree.

Translation, I will perform logical gymnastics, pull-off semantics and hopefully you will give up.  Whereas our approach is simple; you catch a lie, you nip it in the bud.  Basic common sense dictates that liars and those who are guilty wish to buy as much time as possible.

ShiaMan

Re: Rules of Mutah Marriage Revealed! (Video)
« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2016, 05:08:14 AM »
While Noor-Us-Sunnah may disagree with my line of questioning, we have to start from basics to get to the truth as I am sure you will agree.

Translation, I will perform logical gymnastics, pull-off semantics and hopefully you will give up.  Whereas our approach is simple; you catch a lie, you nip it in the bud.  Basic common sense dictates that liars and those who are guilty wish to buy as much time as possible.

If Hani wasn't biased, he would compare mutah as performed during the time of the Prophet to how it is performed by the shia today. Even if it was banned during the Prophet's life, he would have compared pre-banned mutah to today.

Quick question: while mutah was allowed during G the life of the Prophet, was it okay or do you find it to be wrong then too?

Noor-us-Sunnah

Re: Rules of Mutah Marriage Revealed! (Video)
« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2016, 05:28:00 AM »
Strange! Why are you offended when what Hani did was just expose or share the Shia RULES about Mutah from the books of Shia scholars.

Sharing the view of Shia scholars makes Hani biased. Typical Shia criticism. :p

 

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