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Takfir of mother of believers by a major Shia scholar
« on: November 14, 2014, 10:00:09 PM »
Takfir of mother of believers by a major Scholar of a takfiri and hateful sect. This was shared by Shiites on facebook.

Introduction of this Sabaite Shia scholar:

Sheikh Muhammad Tahir Al Qumi al Shirazi was among the teachers of Allamah Baqir Majlisi II and Sheikh Hurr al Amili. He has been praised by giants of Tashayyu scholars such as Muhadith Nuri, Sheikh Muhammad Ardbili (author of the famous rijal book "Jami al Ruwat""), as well as his students Allama Majlisi and Shaikh Hurr al Amili.

Sheikh Muhammad Tahir Al Qumi al Shirazi gives the stance of Tashayyu regarding Aisha:

[What has been reported on the shortcomings of the enemies of Ahlulbayt (a.s) that evidences upon the Imamah of our twelve Imams (a.s) is that Aisha is a kafirah deserving of hellfire. It is a necessity of the reality of our religion and the reality of our twelve Imams (a.s), because all those who profess by the caliphate of the three (Abu Bakr, Umar and Uthman) believes that she was a believer and honors and respects her, while all those who profess by Imamate of the twelve Imams (a.s) profess by her being deserving of la'nah and Allah (swt)'s punishment. So when her being like that is established, the point is proven, because no one claims a separation (of Aisha from the issue).

As for the evidence of her being deserving of la'nah and Allah (swt)'s punishment, so indeed she waged war against Imam Ali (a.s) and there are mutawatir ahadith from the Prophet (saw) said "one who wars against you (i.e. Ali) wars against me.", and there is no doubt warring against the Prophet (saw) is kufr.

Source: Kitab al Arba'een. Pg. # 615 - 616.]





در خلافت میل نیست ای بی‌خبر
میل کی آید ز بوبکر و عمر
میل اگر بودی در آن دو مقتدا
هر دو کردندی پسر را پیشوا

عطار نِیشابوری

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Hani

Re: Takfir of mother of believers by a major Shia scholar
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2014, 10:38:53 PM »
Haha okay okay.. So a technical question, he quoted the Hadith "Your war is my war" and said "Mutawatir", is this actually true? I seriously doubt it.


Secondly if that's his proof for Takfeer, this measn Ahlul-Sunnah have a thousand proofs for the Kufr of the Shia, loads of narrations state that Abu Bakr and `Umar are in Jannah, Shia say otherwise, thus Kouffar?
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

Ebn Hussein

Re: Takfir of mother of believers by a major Shia scholar
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2014, 01:05:38 AM »

As for the evidence of her being deserving of la'nah and Allah (swt)'s punishment, so indeed she waged war against Imam Ali (a.s) and there are mutawatir ahadith from the Prophet (saw) said "one who wars against you (i.e. Ali) wars against me.", and there is no doubt warring against the Prophet (saw) is kufr.

Source: Kitab al Arba'een. Pg. # 615 - 616.]


By Allah Twelver scholars are the thickest liar on earth, no wonder that the Salaf compared them to vultures and the most lying species existing on the face of earth. The Twelver Rabbi says that the hadith حربك حربي ('One who wages war against you (i.e. Ali) wages war against me.') is mutawatir i.e. mass narrated. These thickos can't even lie properly although they should have mastered trickery and deception by now. That friggin' narration is not even sahih let alone 'mutawatir', I guess not even according to their standards, let alone ours.

As we all know (acc. to REAL authentic narrations like in Al-Bayhaqi) that Ali never regarded those who fought him as kuffar, none of the Sahabah, heck even the lunatic Khawarij were considered Muslims by him but the Twelver Rafidah who are more extreme in their Takfir than the ancient Khawarij agree in their black and white TAKFIRI understanding that anyone who fought their deity Ali (RA) is a kafir. Not just the Rabbi Abu Muslim mentioned, but the likes of Al-Mufid, Al-Murtadha, Abdul-Hussein Sharaf Al-Din (author of Al-Muraja'at), Ayatullat Mar'ashi, Ayatullat Ali Al-Milani and pretty much ever major Rafidi scholars from the past to this very day (some taqiyyah mongerers excluded):

http://www.alrad.net/hiwar/takfir/15.htm

Here the Takfir of Nader and his la Mufid on 'Aisha (look at their takfiri black-and-white understanding):

http://www.revivingalislam.com/2012/01/how-evil-are-those-who-fought-ali.html


BTW there is another similar narration they always mention:

أَنَا حَرْبٌ لِمَنْ حَارَبَكُمْ، وَسِلْمٌ لِمَنْ سَالَمَكُمْ

Abu Huraira narrated: The Prophet (S) looked toward ‘Ali, al-Hasan, al-Husayn, and Fatimah, and said: "I am in the state of war with those who will fight you, and in the state of peace with those who are peaceful to you.” (Musnad Imam Ahmad)

This narration (ironically narrated by Abu Hurayrah) is weak also. What do the Rafidah smoke to claim tawatur on these narrations?
« Last Edit: November 15, 2014, 01:21:13 AM by Ebn Hussein »
الإمام الشافعي رحمه الله
لم أر أحداً من أهل الأهواء أشهد بالزور من الرافضة! - الخطيب في الكفاية والسوطي.

Imam Al-Shafi3i - may Allah have mercy upon him - said: "I have not seen among the heretics a people more famous for falsehood than the Rafidah." [narrated by Al-Khatib Al-Baghdadi/Al-Kifayah]

sword_of_sunnah

Re: Takfir of mother of believers by a major Shia scholar
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2014, 05:59:04 AM »

Hadrami

Re: Takfir of mother of believers by a major Shia scholar
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2015, 07:06:48 AM »
Secondly if that's his proof for Takfeer, this measn Ahlul-Sunnah have a thousand proofs for the Kufr of the Shia, loads of narrations state that Abu Bakr and `Umar are in Jannah, Shia say otherwise, thus Kouffar?

or
(وَالسَّابِقُونَ الْأَوَّلُونَ مِنَ الْمُهَاجِرِينَ وَالْأَنْصَارِ وَالَّذِينَ اتَّبَعُوهُمْ بِإِحْسَانٍ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمْ وَرَضُوا عَنْهُ وَأَعَدَّ لَهُمْ جَنَّاتٍ تَجْرِي تَحْتَهَا الْأَنْهَارُ خَالِدِينَ فِيهَا أَبَدًا ۚ ذَٰلِكَ الْفَوْزُ الْعَظِيمُ)
[Surat At-Tawbah 100]

Allah SWT pleased with them & promised them jannah, but shia displeased/cursed/slandered them

will shia say it should be infallibles instead of  Muhajirin & Ansar, but companion changed it?

Ibn Yahya

Re: Takfir of mother of believers by a major Shia scholar
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2015, 10:43:08 PM »
Secondly if that's his proof for Takfeer, this measn Ahlul-Sunnah have a thousand proofs for the Kufr of the Shia, loads of narrations state that Abu Bakr and `Umar are in Jannah, Shia say otherwise, thus Kouffar?

or
(وَالسَّابِقُونَ الْأَوَّلُونَ مِنَ الْمُهَاجِرِينَ وَالْأَنْصَارِ وَالَّذِينَ اتَّبَعُوهُمْ بِإِحْسَانٍ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمْ وَرَضُوا عَنْهُ وَأَعَدَّ لَهُمْ جَنَّاتٍ تَجْرِي تَحْتَهَا الْأَنْهَارُ خَالِدِينَ فِيهَا أَبَدًا ۚ ذَٰلِكَ الْفَوْزُ الْعَظِيمُ)
[Surat At-Tawbah 100]

Allah SWT pleased with them & promised them jannah, but shia displeased/cursed/slandered them

will shia say it should be infallibles instead of  Muhajirin & Ansar, but companion changed it?
Majlisi attempted to abrogate this verse

Bolani Muslim

Re: Takfir of mother of believers by a major Shia scholar
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2015, 11:59:10 PM »
(وَالسَّابِقُونَ الْأَوَّلُونَ مِنَ الْمُهَاجِرِينَ وَالْأَنْصَارِ وَالَّذِينَ اتَّبَعُوهُمْ بِإِحْسَانٍ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمْ وَرَضُوا عَنْهُ وَأَعَدَّ لَهُمْ جَنَّاتٍ تَجْرِي تَحْتَهَا الْأَنْهَارُ خَالِدِينَ فِيهَا أَبَدًا ۚ ذَٰلِكَ الْفَوْزُ الْعَظِيمُ)
[Surat At-Tawbah 100]

Allah SWT pleased with them & promised them jannah, but shia displeased/cursed/slandered them

will shia say it should be infallibles instead of  Muhajirin & Ansar, but companion changed it?
Majlisi attempted to abrogate this verse
Do you have a scan/link?

 

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