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Title: Tarikh al-Yaqubi
Post by: Furkan on February 15, 2015, 03:22:59 AM
Is he a shiite historian or a sunni?

I came across this:

"A numbers of migrants and the helpers refused to swear allegiance to Abu Bakr, inclined as they were to favor Ali ibn AbuTalib. Al Abbas bin Abd al-Muttalib, Al-Fadi bin Al-Abbas, Al-Zubayr ibn Al-Awwam, Khalid bin Said, Al Miqdad, Salman the Persian, Abu Zar Ghaffari, Ammar ibn Yasir, Al-Bara'a, Ubayy bin Ka'b were part of this group". Tarikh al-Yaqubi 2. p. 114.
Title: Re: Tarikh al-Yaqubi
Post by: Hani on February 15, 2015, 02:10:12 PM
He's a Shia who believes in `Ali's Imamah.

Not sure if he's Twelver though.
Title: Re: Tarikh al-Yaqubi
Post by: Furkan on February 15, 2015, 03:45:48 PM
Can you prove that, because some shii placed this quote in a discussion. That's why I asked it here :D
Title: Re: Tarikh al-Yaqubi
Post by: Furkan on February 15, 2015, 04:04:53 PM
I did notice that on websites like wikipedia, al islam.org (and other shii websites), al yaqubi is presented as a sunni.

Title: Re: Tarikh al-Yaqubi
Post by: Hani on February 15, 2015, 04:08:00 PM
When he talks about Abu Bakr and `Umar and `Uthman he doesn't call them "Caliphs", whereas when he talks about `Ali he calls him "Ameer-ul-Mi'ineen" and "al-Wasi", when he talks about Banu Umayyah he calls them Kings but when he talks about Banu al-`Abbas (who were rulers in his time) he calls them Caliphs and claims that their government is blessed. (Which shows his hypocrisy and Taqiyyah).

Also because they say he's a strict Shia on their main websites:
http://www.hawzah.net/fa/Article/View/78767/ (http://www.hawzah.net/fa/Article/View/78767/)
Title: Re: Tarikh al-Yaqubi
Post by: Hani on February 15, 2015, 04:09:10 PM
I did notice that on websites like wikipedia, al islam.org (and other shii websites), al yaqubi is presented as a sunni.



Because Imami Shia are liars, al-islam.org is full of lies, wikipedia is edited by Imami Shia.
Title: Re: Tarikh al-Yaqubi
Post by: Furkan on February 15, 2015, 04:32:32 PM
Barak Allahu feek for your explanation.



Yes, I already felt there was something "wrong" with this guy when I saw those claims.
Title: Re: Tarikh al-Yaqubi
Post by: Ameen on February 15, 2015, 08:06:47 PM
I did notice that on websites like wikipedia, al islam.org (and other shii websites), al yaqubi is presented as a sunni.



Because Imami Shia are liars, al-islam.org is full of lies, wikipedia is edited by Imami Shia.

And how exactly are they LIARS???
Title: Re: Tarikh al-Yaqubi
Post by: Furkan on February 15, 2015, 08:23:45 PM
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And how exactly are they LIARS???

Dude wake up
Title: Re: Tarikh al-Yaqubi
Post by: Rationalist on February 15, 2015, 08:26:19 PM
Ammar bin Yassir later helped Abi Bakr fight the false Prophets. During Umar's rule he was appointed as a governor of Kufa. So, I don't think the website is lying.
Title: Re: Tarikh al-Yaqubi
Post by: Hani on February 15, 2015, 08:51:45 PM
And how exactly are they LIARS???


If they claim he's Sunni, then they're liars. In fact it's Shia who usually tell me how al-islam.org is full of mistakes and deception.
Title: Re: Tarikh al-Yaqubi
Post by: Rationalist on February 15, 2015, 08:54:38 PM
I bought a translated copy of Maqatil at Talibeen and the translator who is a 12er says the author is Sunni. They didn't want to admit the author is a Zaidi.