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Ebn Hussein

The Rise of the Sunnis & EX-Shias [VIDEO]
« on: August 25, 2014, 01:42:18 PM »


Obviously nobody's claiming that Iran is going to be Sunni by tomorrow (that's the way retarded Rawafidh argue when they celebrate the conversion of some bush tribes in Nigeria to Shiism, or some hardcore Sufis in Egypt from Khurafa to Khurafa i.e. Shiism), but what is for sure is that Sunnism is on the rise and Shiism has been weakened alot inside Iran. The number of native Sunnis in Iran is rising, (Iranian Shias are extremely secular, inside and outside the country. Iranian Sunnis in general are much more conservative and on the average have much more children than Shias, that's a fact every Iranian knows) so is the number of Ex-Shias around the world, especially Iran. Problem is that Sunnis don't make a big deal about Shias becoming Muslim/Sunni, this is because we Muslims are busy converting the world, we call to Tawheed, while the Mushrik Rawafidh - half of their da3wa is focused on ignorant Sunnis, to turn them into Imam worshippers (hence they celebrate each convert and have even whole series on their satellite channels about Ex-Sunnis!!!) - spend alot of effort to highlight every case (including fake ones) of Muslim reverts to Kufr (Shiism).

The uncovered truth is though, that in their very fortress, Shiism is crumbling, so who gives a damn that Shias have converted some Bushmen in Africa and some lunatic Sufis in some Arab countries? Their fortress is crumbling, Ahl Al-Sunnah are rising in their midst, they can have our lunatics as long as we can have their truth-seeking ones. It's like an Iranian Sunni scholars once said to a Tunisian EX-SUFI (most Ex-Sunnis are in fact Ex-Sufis):

"The good ones amongst you (Rafidah) come to us (Islam/Sunnah) and the bad and wicked ones amongst us (Sunnah) come to you."
« Last Edit: September 12, 2014, 08:28:10 PM by Ebn Hussein »
الإمام الشافعي رحمه الله
لم أر أحداً من أهل الأهواء أشهد بالزور من الرافضة! - الخطيب في الكفاية والسوطي.

Imam Al-Shafi3i - may Allah have mercy upon him - said: "I have not seen among the heretics a people more famous for falsehood than the Rafidah." [narrated by Al-Khatib Al-Baghdadi/Al-Kifayah]

Husayn

Re: The Rise of the Sunnais & EX-Shias [VIDEO]
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2014, 02:43:37 AM »
I think the hatred of the Iranian Regime is starting to seriously affect rafidism in Iran.

Alot of Iranians are probablly sick to death of the rafidha clergymen and their corruption.
إن يتبعون إلا الظن وما تهوى الأنفس

Ebn Hussein

Re: The Rise of the Sunnais & EX-Shias [VIDEO]
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2014, 06:29:10 PM »
I think the hatred of the Iranian Regime is starting to seriously affect rafidism in Iran.

Alot of Iranians are probablly sick to death of the rafidha clergymen and their corruption.

Yup, Akhil-Ghali, it is EXACTLY like that and this phenomenon is not new, it started when Iranians actually really felt what it means to live under Rafidi rule. Rafidism claims spirituality (like all Batini cult), of course it's nothing but zandaqah (heresy) and heresy eventually leads to ilhad (atheism), no wonder Iranian Shias (Shias in general but Iranians are ranking number one) are one of the biggest apostates in the Islamic world. That's not just some "Wahhabi" claim, that's what their own officials have realised from the day they have taken power:

http://sonsofsunnah.com/2012/02/11/1460/
الإمام الشافعي رحمه الله
لم أر أحداً من أهل الأهواء أشهد بالزور من الرافضة! - الخطيب في الكفاية والسوطي.

Imam Al-Shafi3i - may Allah have mercy upon him - said: "I have not seen among the heretics a people more famous for falsehood than the Rafidah." [narrated by Al-Khatib Al-Baghdadi/Al-Kifayah]

Ebn Hussein

Re: The Rise of the Sunnais & EX-Shias [VIDEO]
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2014, 03:07:05 PM »
Look at these Masakeen here:



They are so brainwashed with their "Ex-Sunni" propaganda, they think genuine conversion from Shirki Rafidi Shi'ism to Islam is rare!!! It seems they don't even know what is going on in their own fortress (Iran)! Even their Ayatullats have confirmed that there are MASS conversion going on in Iran!

the bitter truth is hitting them hard ... so what do they do? lol they just deny everything. Ebn Hussein, Ibn Faysal, EFENDI (owner of Gift2Shias!) brothers Husayn (over a decade active on KR-HCY forum, a staunch Lebanese) Anti-Sunni who recently left Shi'ism!), Shaykh Al-Mo'ayyad from Iraq and all others are "fakes" but clowns like Tijani the Ex-Sufi (yes, the moron who got literally DESTROYED on Mustaqillah TV, learn Arabic and you will know how or read the refutation of his lame books that have been written by Qom drop outs: http://gift2shias.com//?s=tijani&submit=Search) and co. are "true Ex-Sunnis"!

I guess THOUSANDS of Arabs (I've seen many from Bahrain, Iraq and even Saudi) and Persian and Arab Ahwazis from Iran are all "fakes" too! I guess all these news that are even confirmed by the Iranian regime are "fakes":

Ex-Shia phenomenon in Iran: Mass-conversion amongst Arab Ahwazis: http://sonsofsunnah.com/2014/03/20/ex-shia-phenomenon-in-iran-mass-conversion-amongst-arab-ahwazis/

More conversions to Sunnism (in Ahwaz) – The impotent Ayatullats see their last chance by forcing people into Shia rituals!: http://sonsofsunnah.com/2014/05/22/more-conversions-to-sunnism-in-ahwaz-the-impotent-ayatullats-see-their-last-chance-by-forcing-people-into-shia-rituals/

Another Ex-Shia has been arrested – Unstoppable Sunni awakening in Ahwaz/Iran: http://sonsofsunnah.com/2014/07/26/another-ex-shia-has-been-arrested-unstoppable-sunni-awakening-in-ahwaziran/

Iran’s crackdown continues on Ex-Shias in Ahwaz: http://sonsofsunnah.com/2014/07/23/irans-crackdown-continues-on-ex-shias-in-ahwaz/

Converts from Shi’ism to Sunnis are prevented from holding prayers in the “Islamic Republic”: http://sonsofsunnah.com/2014/07/21/converts-from-shiism-to-sunnis-are-prevented-from-holding-prayers-in-the-islamic-republic/

More Ex-Shias inside Iran and the Mullahs answer with torture!: http://sonsofsunnah.com/2014/06/25/more-ex-shias-inside-iran-and-the-mullahs-answer-with-torture/

And it is not just the Arabs in Iran, many Persians in general have chosen Sunni Islam after doing their research: http://sonsofsunnah.com/2014/04/18/the-rise-of-persian-salafism/
« Last Edit: September 12, 2014, 03:08:45 PM by Ebn Hussein »
الإمام الشافعي رحمه الله
لم أر أحداً من أهل الأهواء أشهد بالزور من الرافضة! - الخطيب في الكفاية والسوطي.

Imam Al-Shafi3i - may Allah have mercy upon him - said: "I have not seen among the heretics a people more famous for falsehood than the Rafidah." [narrated by Al-Khatib Al-Baghdadi/Al-Kifayah]

Ebn Hussein

Re: The Rise of the Sunnais & EX-Shias [VIDEO]
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2014, 03:24:11 PM »
Type: لماذا تركت التشيع

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%D9%84%D9%85%D8%A7%D8%B0%D8%A7+%D8%AA%D8%B1%D9%83%D8%AA+%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AA%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%B9

... in youtube, and if you don't understand Arabic show it to an Arab speaker and let him judge, are all these cases "rare" and are all these men agents dressing like "Wahhabis". WALLAH know! Everyone familiar with Iraq and the Khaleej knows their accents and their family names, these are genuine men, mentally healthy men who Allah has chosen to break the ribs of Shi'ism, after all, can a sane man with a good heart stay a Mushrik Rafidi forever? Can anyone but a die-hard Mushrik (I am NOT talking to the innocent Shia laymen who only loves the Ahlul-Bayt believing that Imamism is the path of the Ahlul-Bayt, not knowing the reality of his sect and his scholars) and sadist stick to the likes of Majlisi and co. and their Batiniyyah and Zandaqah that is found everywhere in the Rafidi Madhab, just read ONE Shia Tafseer and you will vomit after reading the amount of Batiniyyah and Zandaqah, wallah it's a joke of a religion) honestly believe that Shi'ism is the Madhab of the Ahlul-Bayt (3alayhimus-salam)?!.

Only very innocent and ignorant ones who are fooled by the Shia slogan which is "madhhab of AhlulBayt, love the Ahlul-Bayt" will fall for their trap. But it's like in all other polytheist religions, the Christians also have a nice slogan which is: "Good loves you, Jesus loves you" etc. The dumb and weak will fall for that, some genuinely seeking God, but the GOOD ones amongst the Christians will leave it for Monotheism, for the religion of Abraham which is Islam, same goes with people who are born Shias or converted to Shi'ism (due to Jahl, emotions or propaganda material by the Shi'ites), the GOOD ones amongst them will eventually leave Shi'ism after finding out that behind the beautiful slogan of "Madhab of Ahlul-Bayt" there is nothing but Zandaqah (heresy), kufr and Shirk and the most hineous innovations one can imagine, EVERYTHING sanctified (i.e. misused) under the pretext of following the "holy Household" (rather unholy household of Shaytan for the Ahlul-Bayt are certainly innocent of Rafidism).

« Last Edit: September 12, 2014, 03:54:04 PM by Ebn Hussein »
الإمام الشافعي رحمه الله
لم أر أحداً من أهل الأهواء أشهد بالزور من الرافضة! - الخطيب في الكفاية والسوطي.

Imam Al-Shafi3i - may Allah have mercy upon him - said: "I have not seen among the heretics a people more famous for falsehood than the Rafidah." [narrated by Al-Khatib Al-Baghdadi/Al-Kifayah]

Ebn Hussein

Re: The Rise of the Sunnais & EX-Shias [VIDEO]
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2014, 08:19:15 PM »
Check this out (Ibn Sohan or Shloman, both sounds Jewish. Worse is the pantheist pedophile in his avatar, makes you wanna puke):



Didn't I tell you they are deluded and brainwashed? It's like these people live in a fairy-tale (where Imam and a non-guiding 12th 3aj 3aj Imam makes sense!) missing what is going on in their OWN fortress.

Me and Hani replied to that in another thread, let me quote ourselves:

@ IbnSohan, post #42,

Quote
Circus.
You should admit that you are losing the battle today. Shiaism is growing and spreading in Africa, east Asia and Western world which is your newer headquarters.
The reason is simple : These nobel Hadiths of Ghadir and Thaqalyin were hidden for centuries from the Sunnis.


Ah circus? Welcome to the circus then brother Ibn Sohan.


And yes we know that Shiasm grows in areas of deep ignorance and poverty, just like Christianity. I'll tell you where Shiasm doesn't grow, in gatherings of knowledge and intellect such as this forum right here.


As for Ghadeer and Thaqalayn being hidden, I wonder what universe you live in, I thought they were Mutawatir and widespread according to you? Suddenly now they're hidden? Almost every single book of Hadith and Sharh and `Aqeedah contain both the narrations you mentioned, and our scholars like al-Dhahabi wrote entire books just to gather the chains of Ghadeer.

What a big fat lie! Shi'ism is growing in the most deprived areas where the BIGGEST JAHL AND ZANDAQAH exist (guess why ...), areas such as west Africa where African brothers themselves told me that Sufism and Voodoo cults are mixed! No wonder Shias convert some freaks to their filthy Mushrik beliefs.  As for the western world, then this is just a bad joke right? 99% of converts except Islam and Sunnah not Kufr (Rafidism), I mean what mentally healthy former Catholic would leave Ya Jesus/Mary/Saint x,y,z for Ya Ali/Fatimah/Imams etc. anyway? Exactly, only a die-hard Mushrik, not a sincere revert:

MMuXw

As for East-Asia, then again I've met numerous East-Asian (some on this board) and they too confirm that only the most extreme Sufis (Semi-Rafidis) accept Shi'ism, no real Sunni would replace Tawheed with kufr, never (also Shias used to have much freedom in east Asia, while Al-Azhar is not allowed to operate ANYWHERE, not even in Sunni areas of Iran, the Rafidah of Iran have built a Shia HAWZA in the Sunni stronghold and Capital of Malaysia! Alhamdulillah the Malaysian gov. is chasing them just as Sudan is, after all why shall Shias have the right to do propaganda in our strongholds if we are not allowed to the the same inside Iran?)

As for "headquarters", It seems the Rafidah are missing out what is going on in their very fortress:

http://forum.twelvershia.net/general-sunni-vs-shia/the-rise-of-the-sunnais-ex-shias-(video)/msg445/#new

Shi'ism is dying out in its fortress Alhamdulillah, the internet is breaking it's neck ribs, all good and sincere Shias are accepting Tawheed and Sunnah, alhamdulillah.

Hani, forget about it, they are scared, they know nothing has been hidden, for flips sake the Ghadir narration is in OUR books in our MAJOR book Sahih Muslim our books have been translated for DECADES into other languages (unlike Shias who are scared to translate a SINGLE Tafsir book, well I'd be ashamed as well, it's full of batiniyyah and lunacy), the likes of Imam Al-Nawawi have written SHARH on Sahih Muslim (and the Ghadir hadith) our youth have exposed the Ghadir lie with evidence from the Ahlul-Bayt themselves:

http://forum.twelvershia.net/general-sunni-vs-shia/the-rafidi-narrative-of-ghadir-khumm-as-weak-and-shallow-as-the-rafidi-deen/

Heck they own scholars said the Ghadir incident is not a strong dalil:

http://gift2shias.com/2012/05/14/nass-on-imamah-sharif-al-murtada/

... yet these people have the audacity to claim that anything has been hidden! Wallah nothing has been hidden (except the useless 3aj 3aj serdab dweller), the truth has been hidden from the Shias this is why even their experts are scared to debate (look how scared they are of Hani, they know he's a big gun and he will destroy their Ghadir myth). Shias should stop dreaming and smelling the Turban or at least come to debate, we will show you how weak and shallow your Ghadir myth is, Ghadir has nothing got to do with leadership, none of the Ahlul-Bayt ever believed so and neither do we and we will disbelief in this till the day of Judgement.

Oh, as for Al-Thaqalayn, that one too has been distorted by Shias, every Sunni talib can refute it, like on this beautiful blog (wonder how he found a "hidden" narration, lol): http://youpuncturedtheark.wordpress.com/2011/01/31/explanation-of-hadith-ath-thaqalayn/

« Last Edit: September 12, 2014, 08:44:20 PM by Ebn Hussein »
الإمام الشافعي رحمه الله
لم أر أحداً من أهل الأهواء أشهد بالزور من الرافضة! - الخطيب في الكفاية والسوطي.

Imam Al-Shafi3i - may Allah have mercy upon him - said: "I have not seen among the heretics a people more famous for falsehood than the Rafidah." [narrated by Al-Khatib Al-Baghdadi/Al-Kifayah]

Abu Ammar

Re: The Rise of the Sunnis & EX-Shias [VIDEO]
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2014, 02:48:47 AM »
Asalamu 3laykum,

I can't believe these Shi'ites have the audacity to claim that there are hardly any ex shias! This is insane - And where is this proof about many misguided miskeens that convert into Shi'ism? Please don't tell me Tijani and Shehata.

Before I begin, I feel obliged to introduce myself.

Living amongst them for almost 2 decades, I was the most stubborn Shi'ite. No one was able to change my mind about the Khilafa issue and that the first three were wrongdoers. Because we were a minority, our learned ones always taught us scripts on how to defend ourselves from Sunnis.

I initially had doubts about concepts such as infallibility and how the 12 Imams have all this knowledge, and why they are 12 in the first place. When I asked, they gave me answers using philosophy and logic, which made them seem intelligent and therefore convincing.

The shubuhaat were not leaving me alone though. I kept seeing myself as an outcast in Islam, I understood that the Imamate doctrine was alien to Sunnis and not easy to explain. At the same time I did not agree everything with what Shias had to say, stuff such as Wilaya At-takweenia, cursing, Fatimas rib, morning, grave rituals, lamentation, and most of all, the silence of the scholars over things that I perceived as blatantly haram. I'm sure that every Shia had doubts about these and questioned them at one point. I became a very controversial Shi'ite for a while, accepting and rejecting some beliefs.

After praying for guidance, a Sunni Tunisian brother invited me to his home and we bought up the topic. By coincidence, I had a Shia book in my bag - which he analyses, and within seconds he found a few contradictions (in which I will talk about another time iA). He then asked me later to prove infallibility, Imamah and the Ghaiba.

Despite reading and reading and asking my learned peers, I couldn't actually fine clear cut proof for the 3 mentioned things:

Infallibity - It's not that much of an important concept whether proven or not, nor is there any clear cut evidences that the imams are infallible

Imamah - Implicit verses in the Quran and philosophies used to prove this, not good enough

Ghaiba - 0 proof, 0 logic, 0 success

I started thinking that philosophy and logic isn't within the fold of Islam to prove AQEEDA beliefs, they need direct proofs. They also use qiyaas to prove aqeeda beliefs which is forbidden, but they don't have a choice since there is no evidence for what they believe, and even if there is, the proofs they use are flimsy and weak.

So when I was told the Sunni way of the things, with the chain of narrations and the Sahaba, I wanted to know more. After learning small bit about who the Sahaba actually are, I wanted to know more about these great personalities - it was nice knowing that Islam might not have been a big conspiracy or a chess game between Ali and Omar (May Allah be pleased with both of them). By just observing how the Sunnis go about Islam, you could see how they are the true followers of Islam, with their Quran and Salah.

The clear kufr of the scholars and books, and the sheer ignorance and fanatisicm of Shi'ites forced me to leave the crooked path for the straighter one, and Al-hamdulillah. Sunni Islam made me realise that Islam is bigger than the politics that happened afterwards, which either way proves the good relationships of the khulufa2 ar-rashideen.

That was the whole story in short, iA I will share what I have learnt in more threads to come.

Shi'ism only grows in areas where there's ignorance, such as places in Africa and South Asia. Otherwise Nigerian and Iranian Shi'ites are reverting to Sunni Islam in their hundreds and thousands. Plus Shi'ites concentrate their da3wa on Sunnis, whilst we concentrate our da3wa on everyone.

I want to add, that most Shi'ites are ignorant of what bid3a actually is, and the scholars don't want them to know. Once they find out, they would run from Shi'ism in their millions.

I want to end with the fact that I am an Ex-Shia, Sunni Muslim, and many many of us exist.

Jazakum Allahu Kheiraa
لا تعتقد دين الروافض إنهم أهل المحال وحزبة الشيطان

'Do not Believe [in] the religion of the Rawafidh, for they are people of distortion and the party of Satan'

Nooniyah Al-Qahtani

Ebn Hussein

Re: The Rise of the Sunnis & EX-Shias [VIDEO]
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2014, 03:02:45 AM »
Allahu Akbar! That was beautiful bro! Now they gonna call you a fake lol but who cares what these Mushriks think, this very thread (and remember, we bring evidence from their own scholars who confirm what we say i.e. a rise of Sunnis and Ex-Shias IN their fortress Iran and elsewhere) is a prove that Shi'ism is crumbling and I personally believe that the Internet will destroy them completely, no sane person will stay a Shia, no decent person will stay a Shia AFTER realising that all the so called "accusations by Wahhabis" are actually mainstream Shi'ism, propagated by their scholars.

Now it's brother Husayn's turn to tell us his story. I know brother Husayn since 2005 (!!!) from the KR-HCY forum, he literally opposed and fought us over there for a DECADE and now he left Shi'ism and accepted Islam, alhamduillah.
الإمام الشافعي رحمه الله
لم أر أحداً من أهل الأهواء أشهد بالزور من الرافضة! - الخطيب في الكفاية والسوطي.

Imam Al-Shafi3i - may Allah have mercy upon him - said: "I have not seen among the heretics a people more famous for falsehood than the Rafidah." [narrated by Al-Khatib Al-Baghdadi/Al-Kifayah]

sword_of_sunnah

Re: The Rise of the Sunnis & EX-Shias [VIDEO]
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2014, 11:41:38 AM »
MashaAllah it was a nice read, regarding the conversion of brother ibn faisal.

May Allah keep your firm on the straight path.

Hani

Re: The Rise of the Sunnis & EX-Shias [VIDEO]
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2014, 12:45:05 PM »
May Allah reward you for sharing, since I was born Muslim I could never imagine what it must be like to have to reject what you have been taught since childhood, it definitely needs courage and independence to take this step.
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

Abu Ammar

Re: The Rise of the Sunnis & EX-Shias [VIDEO]
« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2014, 03:15:41 PM »
Thank you everyone for the read.

I forgot to add, the inconsistency within the realm of Shi'ism is extraordinary. There are so many conflicting accounts in AQEEDA issues, such as the link I present below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1307XKkWvHo&list=UU2Zh30AueGr3ZgcsZYMMuXw

and many more, such as differences in Wilaya At-takweeniya, what tuwessul actually is, Tahreef of the Quran etc.

I remember talking to a Shia Sheikh about Wilaya At-takweeniya, and he said the believing in it or not doesn't make it less of a Shia. Yet, it's a huge concept, it can't be so trivial that you choose to believe it or not, and in other words, you either believe in Taw7eed, or you're violating it. I remember Sheikh Al-Ghizi called Fadhlullah a Nasibi for not believing in it.

When it comes to Tuwessul, you get so many complications. Some say, you're asking Allah for things for the sake of Imams, others say you call Allah through them, others say you call directly to them. When Shi'ites say, Ya Ali (or Naadi Alyyen), Ya Hussain, Ya 9aa7ib Azzaman, Ya Abbas, do they realise not that they are calling upon them directly? Or is their Arabic so poor that they don't even realise?

Plus the Quran stresses that we don't call upon anyone but him:

40:60 - '...Pray onto Me and I will hear your prayer...'

46:5 - 'Who is more foolish than he who prays to other beings than Allah, to beings who are ever impotent to answer his prayer?'

35:13-14 - '...and those unto whom ye pray instead of Him own not as the white spot on a date-stone, if ye pray unto them they hear not your prayer, and if they heard they could not grant it to you...'


How clearer do you want the last verse to be!!? Allah (Jallah Jalalah) says that they can't hear you, and even if they can, they can't do you nothing! And believe me there's many verses, however the same book also says.

5:75 - '..see how We make the revelations clear for them, and see how they are turned away.'

With regards to Ta7reef, they can deny it all they want, but the scholars unfortunately have opened their mouths too soon. And we've seen the context, some actually believe it's distorted, they're not just reading a narration, as some claim.

May Allah guide us all, Ameen
لا تعتقد دين الروافض إنهم أهل المحال وحزبة الشيطان

'Do not Believe [in] the religion of the Rawafidh, for they are people of distortion and the party of Satan'

Nooniyah Al-Qahtani

Ebn Hussein

Re: The Rise of the Sunnis & EX-Shias [VIDEO]
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2015, 02:56:04 AM »
Ibn Faysal, Husayn, Bolani, myself just to mention the active ex-Shia members on this very board. The future is promising I believe. One thing is for sure: The myth that there are no Ex-Sunnis has been completely debunked and the rational and monotheist loving Ex-Shias will be a cause for many other Shias to leave the Rafidi cult for Islam, bi2ithnillah.
الإمام الشافعي رحمه الله
لم أر أحداً من أهل الأهواء أشهد بالزور من الرافضة! - الخطيب في الكفاية والسوطي.

Imam Al-Shafi3i - may Allah have mercy upon him - said: "I have not seen among the heretics a people more famous for falsehood than the Rafidah." [narrated by Al-Khatib Al-Baghdadi/Al-Kifayah]

MuslimAnswers

Re: The Rise of the Sunnis & EX-Shias [VIDEO]
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2015, 02:26:09 PM »
^

The video is down.

But, one important thing is, we overhear sometimes Shias speaking to each other, and one can feel that they do sense the corruption, hypocrisy and contradictions prevalent in their scholars.

One example is of that Shia I overhead saying that in this year's Ashura gatherings he did not shed tears and their "Akhunds" were saying that now Imam Hussayn is upset with him for not crying (but his rebuttal, is that he did not cry during these Majaalis, what to do?). Plus, I am sure that the normal Shia in the street knows many more scandals and problems involving money and influence among the Shia ranks (especially now that both Iran AND Iraq have independent clergy organizations and influence circles - one recent example though in America was the controversy of Hasan al-Qazwini and the Shia center in Michigan, but thousands of these problems exist and are known to lay Shias).

The issue is though, that we Sunnis are perceived to absolutely hate them just as Nazis hated Jews [and the political climate in the region would seem to vindicate a movement in that direction] so there is very little headway made in terms of conversions. Most who are caught in this web would just go back to a folk Shiaism where they would venerate the Imams in their own way [I call it Ahmadinejadism, it is more common than what we give it credit].
« Last Edit: May 08, 2015, 02:27:44 PM by MuslimAnswers »

Mythbuster1

Re: The Rise of the Sunnis & EX-Shias [VIDEO]
« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2015, 05:12:14 PM »
Just to add I know an Iranian guy who lives here now in UK and was subject to torture etc for he is secularist and subhanallah a very nice person and he told me about what he thinks of Khomeini and their lies and how a lot of young Iranians are disillusioned by this regime he even told me a story when the Khomeini came from France and people started saying you can see his face on the moon on that night, thousands turned out and witnessed it, it was all over the Iranian media the scholars were talking about the incident NO ONE said they didn't see his pic on the moon until.........one high ranking official on an interview admitted on camera that this was FALSE, this official was asked did you see it, his answer was YES. If I didn't see it......then we would be DEAD!!!

Lol

He surprised his own Pakistani Shiite friends who dote on ayatollah Khomeini and regard him as an imam he seriously shut them up they were gobsmacked hearing from a Shiite living in Iran
I was sat there smiling while the two battled it out lol

This Iranian guy even told the Pakistani Shiite tha QOM is not centre of learning but is full of xxxx, ooooh you should have seen the Pakistani Shiites face...priceless

MuslimAnswers

Re: The Rise of the Sunnis & EX-Shias [VIDEO]
« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2015, 05:47:52 PM »
^

There are a lot of controversies within Shia circles, between majority-Shia governments in Iraq and Iran and their clergy, etc. I think we should have a section for these types of matters, if at the very least for information purposes.

MuslimAnswers

Re: The Rise of the Sunnis & EX-Shias [VIDEO]
« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2015, 06:54:37 PM »
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Just to add I know an Iranian guy who lives here now in UK and was subject to torture etc for he is secularist and subhanallah a very nice person and he told me about what he thinks of Khomeini and their lies and how a lot of young Iranians are disillusioned by this regime he even told me a story when the Khomeini came from France and people started saying you can see his face on the moon on that night, thousands turned out and witnessed it, it was all over the Iranian media the scholars were talking about the incident NO ONE said they didn't see his pic on the moon until.........one high ranking official on an interview admitted on camera that this was FALSE, this official was asked did you see it, his answer was YES. If I didn't see it......then we would be DEAD!!!

Well, secularist Iranian ultra nationalists are another issue which is driven more by Arab-hatred than other considerations (like truth or falsehood, they cannot be bothered about that), but I was talking more about those Iranian Shias who are for the most part pious, that even they know there are problems galore in their religious-political apparatus.

Ebn Hussein

Re: The Rise of the Sunnis & EX-Shias [VIDEO]
« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2015, 05:45:42 AM »
The first video is down, Shias flagged it, it but you can watch it here:

https://www.facebook.com/sonsofsunnah/videos/vb.524978814206553/711138942257205/?type=2&theater
الإمام الشافعي رحمه الله
لم أر أحداً من أهل الأهواء أشهد بالزور من الرافضة! - الخطيب في الكفاية والسوطي.

Imam Al-Shafi3i - may Allah have mercy upon him - said: "I have not seen among the heretics a people more famous for falsehood than the Rafidah." [narrated by Al-Khatib Al-Baghdadi/Al-Kifayah]

 

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