For heavens sake open your mind and then use your sense. Look at the title of this blooming thread. It speaks. And go through the thread and notice certain posts. Stop behaving like an ignorant fool.
The ignorant fool here, as usual, is you. I said "I never said a word regarding anyone being superior or better" which still stands despite the topic of the thread. In fact, I should apologize because nearly all my posts have been irrelevant to the topic but to expose your foolishness even further.
For the live of God I don't need to ask you. We all know who were better and superior. This discussion ain't something new that I've come across.
We rank Sahaba (ra) based on their qualities. Hunain and Uhud have no bearing on any one of them because Allah (swt) has forgiven even the ones who fled. Not to mention, you cannot prove that Abu Bakr (ra) and Umar (ra) fled the battlefield; you can only speculate.
The attempt to put the Shaykhain or Khulafaa e Salasa above the others, above the rest has been going on for a long time. We're just arguing the logic and reason behind it. Who got the leadership first is better and superior than who got into authority second and third.
What I am disputing is that when the two battles ended, those who fought valiantly and those who momentarily fled ended up with passing grade, in the sight of Allah (swt). Minions of Shaytan, like yourself, are still having a hard time understanding and accepting Allah's (swt) Decree.
We believe being better and superiority is based on merits regarding character, performance and achievement based on all sectors, division, fields and departments.
No one is contesting this point.
Ok, then why is Muhammad s.a.w, who is the last better and above the rest.
The Holy Prophet (saw) is better than the Prophets (asws) of the old but Muslims are to accept every single one of them without getting into the technicalities of the distinctions between them.
Now would be a good time for you to address why you accept certain individuals to be above these Prophets (asws) of the old!
I don't. You're just twisting things around to your desire. You're struggling with the argument and are too stubborn to admit and accept. So you're trying to score points just to save yourself.
Pathetic comeback! You clearly stated that you "disagree with that" when presented with Qur'anic proof. Your blunders are only piling up. Wait and watch!
This is exactly what I mean. Based on your statement here why are you so hesitant to accept and mention those cowards who fled to save their lives abandoning the Prophet s.a.w and leaving him stranded.
Coward is the term thrown around by Shias so they will be judged by the standards they set themselves. If running away from battlefield or responsibilities makes one a coward (according to the Shia) then the 12th Imam is the biggest coward mankind has ever known, if he exists!
Those who fled during Hunain and/or Uhud had their slates cleaned by Allah (swt). As for your 12th Imam, forgiveness for his cowardice - along with his existence - has still not been established.
It would have been better if they didn’t by coming up with some excuse. That would have saved them from embarrassment.
They, as I said, were winners. Even when erring in judgment, Allah (swt) would forgive them and wipe their slates clean. Speak for your "infallibles" (ra); always subdued, humiliated, overpowered, outmatched, cornered and defeated (if we compare their lives to what your theology expected from them).
Our coward ran from those in authority. Your cowards abandoned the Prophet s.a.w and left him stranded and all alone. Something that our coward didn't do.
BOOM! *drops the mic*
78 Replies
12545 Views
October 07, 2016, 07:37:17 AM