The 12ers are always trying to monopolize the emotions to strengthen the dawah.
To see the hate and bloodshed in this shia sunni split was very hard especilly because before I was an Iran supporter because of Palestinians.
[/quote]The 12ers are always trying to monopolize the emotions to strengthen the dawah.
To see the hate and bloodshed in this shia sunni split was very hard especilly because before I was an Iran supporter because of Palestinians.
But I have understood that Iran and shia just want to manipulated Palestinian conflict for political and religious puposes.
That was the worst political disapoitnment of my life!
Because all my life I thought Iran was truthful.
This disapointment and bloodshed has made me very very peaceful ( I was always peaceful but now more)bacause I know there is lot of manipulations...
Seing that I understood formers artists (Otto Dix, Munch, Picasso, Kojima...) who wanted pacifism through their work ...
And why they expressed their trauma of war like (Garnica, first world war, Hiroshima etc...)
Yes, but they have a takfiri view against the 12ers which is very wrong. There is a lack of education on the Sunnis side on the 12ers. If our dawah center wants to explain why 12ers are wrong, we have limited information and most place present a takfiri view. u
Sahit.
Do you think if Palestinians have understood this manipulation or not yet?
Yes, but they have a takfiri view against the 12ers which is very wrong. There is a lack of education on the Sunnis side on the 12ers. If our dawah center wants to explain why 12ers are wrong, we have limited information and most place present a takfiri view. u
Sahit.
Do you think if Palestinians have understood this manipulation or not yet?
For the 12ers its different. The first thing they teach them to do taqiyyah on takfiri views. Again lying is a sin too, but I have to admit 12ers very dangerous because of this pillar of taqiyyah.
Yes, but they have a takfiri view against the 12ers which is very wrong. There is a lack of education on the Sunnis side on the 12ers. If our dawah center wants to explain why 12ers are wrong, we have limited information and most place present a takfiri view. u
Sahit.
Do you think if Palestinians have understood this manipulation or not yet?
For the 12ers its different. The first thing they teach them to do taqiyyah on takfiri views. Again lying is a sin too, but I have to admit 12ers very dangerous because of this pillar of taqiyyah.
You imply Palestinians are not aware because of shia's taquiya?
All is in the title.
Say what the shiasme has brought you, spriritualy , culturally,way of thinking, politically etc...
It's an important thread because for me it's the moment to make an assessement .
I have discovered shiasme 1 year ago an many things has changed in my way of thinking.
Every one can talk in this tread.
Waste of time.
Shiaism has strengthened my resolve and convinced me that Ahlus Sunnah wal Jama'ah is the true, mainstream Islam.mainstream Islam that is the problem, you blindly follow like sheep the masses, not the Islam of the Prophet S.A.A.W.W
After finding about Shiism, I had a zeal for learning about islamic sciences such as seerah, hadith etc. Once you know even a little you will find that Shiites only have flimsy legs to stand on.Oh yeah? what Seerah? insulting the prophet and saying he is a liar, possessed and drink alcohol in bukhari and muslim?
mainstream Islam that is the problem, you blindly follow like sheep the masses, not the Islam of the Prophet S.A.A.W.W
Off-topic. If you want make a thread about it so you can be destroyed in them.Awww poor baby crying that I have him in the corner :'( Answer me about this hadith do you believe it is true? because it is sahih.??? do you believe that the porphet s.a.a.w.w. was bewitched? Aisha does.
We shia don't have this though.
Sunan Abi Dawud 2533 and prayer is obligatory on you behind every muslim who is Clear of sins or
licentious even if he sinned greatly. وَالصَّلاَةُ وَاجِبَةٌ عَلَيْكُمْ خَلْفَ كُلِّ مُسْلِمٍ بَرًّا كَانَ أَوْ فَاجِرًا وَإِنْ عَمِلَ الْكَبَائِرَ
All is in the title.
Say what the shiasme has brought you, spriritualy , culturally,way of thinking, politically etc...
It's an important thread because for me it's the moment to make an assessement .
I have discovered shiasme 1 year ago an many things has changed in my way of thinking.
Every one can talk in this tread.
It brought me the true religion of Islam and it's practice and not the additions/neglect of so called "rightful leaders a.k.a khalifates".
All is in the title.
Say what the shiasme has brought you, spriritualy , culturally,way of thinking, politically etc...
It's an important thread because for me it's the moment to make an assessement .
I have discovered shiasme 1 year ago an many things has changed in my way of thinking.
Every one can talk in this tread.
It brought me the true religion of Islam and it's practice and not the additions/neglect of so called "rightful leaders a.k.a khalifates".
It brought me a FALSE religion of Islam and it's practices who claims that it is the Lutf of Allah that human is bestowed guidance via infallible imams whose function are to explain, elaborate Shari’a (divine law) for the people and clear up confusing things and events which may happen in each era whereas in reality, that function, for almost the entire history of this religion, are performed by fallible ulama'.
It brought me the true religion of Islam and it's practice and not the additions/neglect of so called "rightful leaders a.k.a khalifates".
It brought me a FALSE religion of Islam and it's practices who claims that it is the Lutf of Allah that human is bestowed guidance via infallible imams whose function are to explain, elaborate Shari’a (divine law) for the people and clear up confusing things and events which may happen in each era whereas in reality, that function, for almost the entire history of this religion, are performed by fallible ulama'.بسم الله الرحمن الرحيمِAl baqara: 124: Allah told Ibrahim a.s. "I am making you an Imam to the people" and Ibrahim was infallible. You should read the Quran. Now you are a kaffir because you are not a mumin in Imams who are infallible when the Quran told you about Ibrahim a.s.[/size]
وإذ ابتلى إبراهيم ربه بكلمات فأتمهن قال إني جاعلك للناس إماما قال ومن ذريتي قال لا ينال عهدي الظالمين
صدق الله العلي الغظيم
You are laughing not because it's funny, but because you are nervous and was surprised by what I had in the mystery box. Yes under your nose and your whole doctrine, we need Imams to guide us just like Ibrahim a.s. was an Imam and explained and elaborated his sharia. Opse. Second of all we don't rely on fallible ulama like the Sunnis do like sheep, they are scholars who have studied books all their lives who inform us of things we might not know as ordinary people.
It brought me the true religion of Islam and it's practice and not the additions/neglect of so called "rightful leaders a.k.a khalifates".
It brought me a FALSE religion of Islam and it's practices who claims that it is the Lutf of Allah that human is bestowed guidance via infallible imams whose function are to explain, elaborate Shari’a (divine law) for the people and clear up confusing things and events which may happen in each era whereas in reality, that function, for almost the entire history of this religion, are performed by fallible ulama'.بسم الله الرحمن الرحيمِAl baqara: 124: Allah told Ibrahim a.s. "I am making you an Imam to the people" and Ibrahim was infallible. You should read the Quran. Now you are a kaffir because you are not a mumin in Imams who are infallible when the Quran told you about Ibrahim a.s.[/size]
وإذ ابتلى إبراهيم ربه بكلمات فأتمهن قال إني جاعلك للناس إماما قال ومن ذريتي قال لا ينال عهدي الظالمين
صدق الله العلي الغظيم
Hahaha... now it's my turn to laugh. You just typed something for the sake of typing something.
What I said was Shia claims that human needs infallible imam to guide, explain, elaborate sharia, clear up confusion, etc. or else it goes against Lutf of Allah. And suddenly for more than 1,100 years, Shia rely on fallible ulama' for all those functions that I listed above. Don't you find that weird and irony?
You are laughing not because it's funny, but because you are nervous and was surprised by what I had in the mystery box. Yes under your nose and your whole doctrine, we need Imams to guide us just like Ibrahim a.s. was an Imam and explained and elaborated his sharia. Opse. Second of all we don't rely on fallible ulama like the Sunnis do like sheep, they are scholars who have studied books all their lives who inform us of things we might not know as ordinary people.
Hahaha... now it's my turn to laugh. You just typed something for the sake of typing something.
What I said was Shia claims that human needs infallible imam to guide, explain, elaborate sharia, clear up confusion, etc. or else it goes against Lutf of Allah. And suddenly for more than 1,100 years, Shia rely on fallible ulama' for all those functions that I listed above. Don't you find that weird and irony?
Like I said, you are worse than a donkey I have to repeat it more than once. I told you our scholars and us follow ONE imam a.s. Our scholars are fallible and make mistakes. The only difference is that they spend more time in studying religion.You are laughing not because it's funny, but because you are nervous and was surprised by what I had in the mystery box. Yes under your nose and your whole doctrine, we need Imams to guide us just like Ibrahim a.s. was an Imam and explained and elaborated his sharia. Opse. Second of all we don't rely on fallible ulama like the Sunnis do like sheep, they are scholars who have studied books all their lives who inform us of things we might not know as ordinary people.
Hahaha... now it's my turn to laugh. You just typed something for the sake of typing something.
What I said was Shia claims that human needs infallible imam to guide, explain, elaborate sharia, clear up confusion, etc. or else it goes against Lutf of Allah. And suddenly for more than 1,100 years, Shia rely on fallible ulama' for all those functions that I listed above. Don't you find that weird and irony?
Are those scholars of yours infallible? If not infallible, it goes against the Lutf of Allah. Don't you see that?
Seems like you are having quite a tough time trying to understand a simple statement.
I repeat what I said.
Shia claims that it is the Lutf of Allah that human is bestowed guidance via infallible imams whose function are to explain, elaborate Shari’a (divine law) for the people and clear up confusing things and events which may happen in each era.
However today (or even for the pst 1,000 years), Shia seek fallible people like Khamenei, Sistani, Shirazi, etc. to explain, elaborate Shari’a (divine law) and clear up confusing things. By not having infallible around to guide people, doesn't that goes against the Lutf of Allah as Shia claim?
Where do shia claim in is the Lutf of Allah that human is bestowed guidance? Show me from shia sources. Like I said you are worse than a donkey, because you see if you repeat things to a donkey they will start walking but you are a lost case. I will say this for the fourth time since you are worse than a donkey and don’t understand. Shia and Khamenei and Sistani may Allah lengthen their life, follow ONE imam a.s. But since you are worse than a donkey you don’t get it do you? We seek them because they have dedicated their lives into studying the hadith and Quran to remind us of things that we might have forgotten or not known. You get it now? You probably didn’t because you are worse than a donkey.