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Ali's (RA) door incident at Khaybar fabricated?

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Optimus Prime

Ali's (RA) door incident at Khaybar fabricated?
« on: March 10, 2016, 03:16:39 AM »
Read the following: http://www.hadithanswers.com/an-unauthentic-incident-regarding-the-strength-of-sayyiduna-ali-radiyallahu-anhu/

Question

It is said at the battle of Khaybar, Sayyiduna Ali (radiyallahu ‘anhu) lifted a heavy door and used it a shield. After the battle it took forty Sahabah to pick it up. Is this Hadith authentic?

 

Answer

The incident in question has been recorded with a few chains. However ‘Allamah Sakhawi (rahimahullah) has declared all of these chains as very weak (kulluha wahiyah) and states that due to this, many ‘Ulama have rejected [the authenticity] of this incident.

‘Allamah Sakhawi (rahimahullah) has further pointed out a narrator in one of the chains who is a Shi’i, implying that the narration reported through him is unacceptable since it supports his corrupt beliefs.

Imam Bayhaqi and Hafiz Ibn Kathir (rahimahumallah) have also pointed out the weakness of the other chains.

 

(Refer: Al Maqasidul Hasanah, Hadith: 418, Kashful Khafa, vol. 1 pg. 420 Hadith: 1168, Al Asrarul Marfu’ah, Hadith: 180. Also see Fathul Bari, under Hadith: 4210 and Footnotes of Musannaf Ibn Abi Shaybah of Shaykh Muhammad ‘Awwamah. Hadith: 32802)

 
« Last Edit: March 10, 2016, 09:00:05 PM by Hani »

Farid

Re: Ali's (RA) heroics at Khaybar fabricated?
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2016, 03:24:54 AM »
Thanks for sharing.

No surprises here though. =]

Optimus Prime

Re: Ali's (RA) heroics at Khaybar fabricated?
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2016, 02:15:05 PM »
Thanks for sharing.

No surprises here though. =]

Why do you say that?

I went to Khaybar just recently, and many of the people really press upon this one incident like it's authentic.

I guess if it's Islamic history then it's no big deal if it's narrated or not.

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Re: Ali's (RA) heroics at Khaybar fabricated?
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2016, 05:55:28 PM »
The thread title is misleading.
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Optimus Prime

Re: Ali's (RA) heroics at Khaybar fabricated?
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2016, 07:25:55 PM »
The thread title is misleading.

Asalamualaikum brother.

Change it accordingly.
« Last Edit: March 10, 2016, 07:28:01 PM by Imam Ali »

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Re: Ali's (RA) door incident at Khaybar fabricated?
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2016, 12:46:25 PM »
Jazakallah khair brother.
May Allah guide the Shi'a to the truth. Ameen.

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