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Sunni Shia Discussion Forum => Hadith-Rijal => Topic started by: Sunni85 on April 15, 2015, 08:18:02 PM
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Assalamualaikum all, shia use this narration to show the scholar of ahlu sunnah indeed use the soil of Husin ra for treat sickness. Please do comment on the chain
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قال الطيوري في الطيوريات ص467 طبعة دار البشائر :
At-Tuyuuri said in his book, At-Tayuuriyat, page 467,
( سمعت أحمد يقول : سمعت أبا بكر يقول : سمعت الخلدي يقول : كان في جرب عظيم كثير ، قال: فتمسحت بتراب قبر الحسين ، قال : فغفوت فانتبهت ، وليس علي منه شيء )
Khuldi said in that He was in many great trials. He said that He wiped with soil of Grave of Hussein, He said: he dozed a bit and found that none of them were left
Ahmad: He is Abul Hasan Ahmad bin Muhammad bin Ahmad bin Manshuur Al Baghdadiy Al ‘Atiiqiy and tsiqah
قال الذهبي في السير ج17-ص602 ( الإِمَامُ، المُحَدِّثُ، الثِّقَةُ، أَبُو الحَسَنِ أَحْمَدُ بنُ مُحَمَّدِ بنِ أَحْمَدَ بنِ مَنْصُوْرٍ البَغْدَادِيُّ، العَتِيْقِيُّ، المُجَهِّز ، السَّفَّار ... الخ )
Dhabi said in Sair ul Aalam, 17/602: Imam, scholar of Hadeeth, thiqa
Abu bakar is Muhammad bin Hasan bin ‘Abdaan Abu Bakar Ash Shairafiy. A-Khatib quoted from Ubaidillah bin Ahmad Ash Shairafiy that he more than a tsiqat [Tarikh Baghdad Al Khatib 2/619-620 no 598]
قال الخطيب في تاريخه ج2-ص619 ( حَدَّثَنِي عنه عبيد الله بن أحمد بن عثمان الصيرفي، وسألته عنه، فقلت : أكان ثقة؟ فقال : فوق الثقة )
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Ja'far Al Khuldi was not a scholar. He was a Sufi that preferred mysticism instead of studying religion. See his biography in Tareekh Baghdad.
The actions of such men cannot be used as evidence against the Qur'an and Sunnah.