here is the list of renowned scholars of Ahlesunnah who considered Atiyyah unreliable:
فقال أحمد _ كما في العلل (رقم 1306) _ : ( كان هشيم يضعف حديث عطية ). وانظر : التاريخ الصغير (1/267) .
1. “Hushaim used to declare his(Atiyya’s) hadith to be weak”.
وقال عبدالله بن أحمد _ كما في العلل (رقم 1306) _ : سمعت أبي ذكر عطية العوفي فقال : ( هو ضعيف الحديث ).
2. Imam Ahmed said: “Atiyya was weak in hadith”
وقال النسائي _ كما في الضعفاء والمتروكون (رقم 481) _ : ( ضعيف ).
3. Nasai said: Weak.
وقال أبوزرعة الرازي _ الموضع السابق من الجرح _ : ( ليّن )
4. Abu Zur’ah said: Layyin(soft).
وقال أبوحاتم الرازي _ كما في الجرح والتعديل (3/1/رقم 2125) _: ( ضعيف ، يكتب حديثه ، وأبونضرة أحب إليّ منه
5. Abu Hatim said: “weak, his Hadith to be written. And Abu Nadhra is better than him, according to me.”
وقال ابن عدي _ كما في الكامل (7/85) _ : ( وقد روى عنه جماعة من الثقات ، ولعطية عن أبي سعيد ( الخدري ) أحاديث عداد ، وعن غير أبي سعيد ، وهو مع ضعفه يكتب حديثه ، وكان يعد من شيعة الكوفة ).
6. Ibn Adi declared him to be weak and said that his hadeeh is written.
قال ابن حبان _ كما في المجروحين (2/176) بعد أن ذكر قصته مع الكلبي _ : ( فلا يحل الاحتجاج به ، ولا كتابة حديثه إلا على جهة التعجب ).
7. Ibn Hibban mention him in his book “Al-Majroohin”, and said, “his hadith should not be written except with ta’ajjub”
وقال الساجي _ كما في تهذيب التهذيب _ : ( ليس بحجة ، وكان يقدم علياً على الكل )
8. As-Saaji said: “he is not hujjah”. [See “Tahdheeb” of Ibn Hajar (7/201)]
وقال أحمد _ كما في العلل (رقم 4502) _ : ( وكان سفيان _ يعني الثوري _ يضعف حديث عطية )
9. According to Imam Sufiyan Ath-Thawri, Atiya’s hadith were weak[Al-‘Ilal, of Imam Ahmed (4502)]
10.
ال لي علي عن يحيى : عطية، وأبو هارون ،ٌ وبشر بن حرب عندي سواء
التاريخ الكبير ج 5 ص 89
Al-Bukhari said: “Ali told me: from Yahya: Atiya and Abu Harun and Bishr Ibn Harb are all of the same status to me(i.e. He saw all men as weak and didn’t narrate from any of them).
وقال البخاري _ كما في التاريخ الكبير (4/رقم 2041): ( كان يحيى يتكلم فيه ) . وانظر : التاريخ الكبير (5/360) والصغير (1/267)
Imam Yahya bin Saeed Qattan used to criticize him.
وقال البخاري _ كما في التاريخ الصغير (1/267) _ قال أحمد في حديث عبدالملك عن عطية عن أبي سعيد قال النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم : ( تركت فيكم الثقلين ) : ( أحاديث الكوفيين هذه مناكير ).
11. Imam Bukhari said: “-Imam Ahmad said about hadith of Abdulmalik from Atiya from Abu Said (“I’m leaving for you two things”)-“These Kufi Ahadith, are munkar”. (see “Tarih as-Sagir” vol 1, p 267)
وقال _ في رواية أبي الوليد بن أبي الجارود كما في الضعفاء للعقيلي (3/359) _ : (كان عطية العوفي ضعيفاً ).
12. In the report from Ibn Abi Jarood, ImamYahya Ibn Mu’een said: “Atiyya was weak”. [Adh-Dhu’afa of Al-Uqailee (3/359)]
رواه أبو يعلى بسند فيه عطية العوفي و هو ضعيف
13. Imam Busayri said: Weak. (Athaf Alkhayr, vol 4, page 478)
وقال أبوداود _ كما في سؤالات الآجري ( 1/264رقم376) _: ( ليس بالذي يُعتمد عليه ).
14. Abu Dawud also declared him weak. (Sawaalaat alAjri Abi Dawdood)
وقال الدارقطني _كما في السنن (4/39) _ : ( ضعيف ) .
وقال _ كما في العلل (4/6) _ : ( مضطرب الحديث ).
15. Daar Qutni declared him weak, as in his Sunan.
And also called him ‘Mudhtarib-ul-hadith’, as in Al-‘Ilal.
وقال البيهقي _ كما في السنن الصغير (2/101) وفي المعرفة (6/144) _ : ( ضعيف ).
وقال _ كما في السنن الكبرى (8/126) _ : ( لا يحتج بروايته ).
16. Bayhaqi said: he is weak, as in Sunan Al-Sugra.
Also said: he is not to be taken as proof, in Al-Kubra
قال ابن خزيمة _ كما في صحيحه (4/68) _ : ( في القلب من عطية بن سعد العوفي ).
17. Ibn Khuzayman weakened him by saying that he wasn’t satisified with him.
عطية هالك
18. Ibn Hazm said: Atiyya Halik(Perished). (Al Muhalli vol 11, page 335).
و هو ضعيف متروك
19. Heythami in “Majmau zawaid” #11125 said Atiyyah weak, abandoned.
وقال الجوزجاني _ كما في أحوال الرجال (رقم 42) _ : ( مائل ).
20. Jawzjani said: Astray.
ورجح الذهبي _ كما في السير (5/325) _ أنه : ( ضعيف الحديث )
وانظر : الميزان (5/100)
21. Imam Dhahabi in Al-Mizan said Weak . (Al-Mizan5/100)
In ad-du’afa(1/88) he says: “They are agreed upon his weakness”.
ابن الصلاح 643 هجرية
ذكر قصة تكنيته للكلبي في مقدمته فقال (وهو (أبو سعيد) الذي يروي عنه (عطية العوفي) التفسير يدلس به موهماً أنه أبو سعيد الخدري)
22. Ibn Salah said he intentionally does Tadlees from Abu Sa`eed.
14الطبراني 360 هـ هجرية
وروى الطبراني في معجمه ( فمبشر بن عبيد معدود في الوضَّاعين، وحجاج. وعطية ضعيفان
23. Tabarani said Hajjaj and `Atiyyah are both weak.
عطية أيضا ضعيف
ضعيف عند الجمهور
24. Nawawee in al-Adhkaar vol 1, page 30 considered him weak, and also said, Weak in the sight of Majority. (Tatheeb al-Asma wal Lughaat, vol 1, page 48)
هو ضعيف باجماع اهل العلم
25. Ibn Taimiyyah in al-Qaa’idatul-Jaleel page 215 said: Weak per consensus of people of knowledge.
26. Ibn Rajab did listed him among weak narrators in Sharh ‘ilal of tirmidhi (2/884):
ويلتحق بهؤلاء من البيوت الضعفاء، عطية بن سعد العوفي وأولاده (أما عطية) فضعفه غير واحد، وقد تكرر ذكره في الكتاب غير مرة
And among the family of weak narrators is ‘Atiyya and his sons.
عطية واه
27. Shaykh Sahsawani discussed the Jarh on `Atiyya in his “Siyanat Al-Insan” and considered him weak. Siyanat Al-Insan Vol 1, page 98.
28. Atiyya is also mentioned by Aboo Bakr ibn al-Muhibb al-Ba’labakee in ad-Du’afaa wal-Matrookeen.(“At-Tawasul, by Sheikh Albani”).
ضعيف الحفظ معروف بالتدليس القبيح
29. Ibn Hajr states regarding Atiyya Al-Awfi: Weak in memory, famous for evil Tadlees. (Tabqaat Mudalliseen vol 1, page 50).
و شيخه عطية ضعيف
30. Ibn Katheer said Atiyya is Weak. Tafsir ibn Kathir, vol 2, page 312.
أما عطية فاجتمعوا على تضعيفه
31. Ibn Jawzi said Atiyya is weak. Al Mawzoo’at vol 1, page 368.
في إسناده محمد بن الحصين بن عطية العوفي عن أبيه عن جده وثلاثتهم ضعفاء
32. Al-Mundhiri said in his “Mukhtasar As-Sunan”, as quoted by Sheikh Bashir Sahsawani , “Atiyya was weak in Hadith”. And at other place (in the same book), “his hadith are not to be taken as proof”. And in other place, “…in its sanad are Muhammad bin Hasan bin Atiyya Al-‘Awfi, from his father, from his grandfather (Atiyya). And all these three are weak.” [Siyanat Al-Insaan page-103]
الأثر ضعيف معلول فان فيه عطية
33. Allama Suyuti said weak in Al Durr al Manthur, vol 3, page 283.
في اسناده ضعف لضعف عطية
34. Nuruddin Alsindi said Atyiyya is weak in Kifaya al hajja fi Sharh Sunan ibn Majah vol 2, page 449.
حجاج و عطية ضعيفان
35. Allama Zilli considered Atiyyah weak. (Faydh Al Qadeer, vol 5, page 216)
و الجمهور على تضعيفه
36. Hafiz ibn Mulqan said: Weak according to Majority. (Al Badar Al Muneer, vol 7, page 463)
ضعفه الجمهور
37. Allama Ayni said Weak according to majority. (Umdat al qaari vol 6, page 250).
و شيخه العوفي يضعف بشدة
38. Ayman Saleh Sha’baan considered Atiyya extremely weak. (Jama’a Al Usool vol4, page 269).
مدلس ضعيف
39. Sheikh Albani said: Mudallis, Weak. (Silsila Daeefa).
إسناده ضعيف لضعف عطية
40. Sheikh Shu`aiyb Al-Arna’ut considered him weak.(Musnad Ahmed bin Hanbal vol 2, page 58).
و عطية ضعيف
41. Dr Abdul Aleem Bastawi said weak. (Mousu’at fi Ahadeeth Al Imam al-Mahdi page 362)
42. Dr. Bashshar Awwad considered him weak. [Tahreer Taqreeb At-Tahdheeb (3/267) Mu`assasah Ar-Risalah]
43. Sharf al-haq Azeemabadi said Weak according to Majority. (Aun Al Ma’qbood, vol 3, page 336).
Ibn Hajar states regarding Atiyya Al-Awfi:
صدوق يخطىء كثيرا وكان شيعيا مدلسا
“Saduq, used to make many mistakes and was a Shia mudallis.” [Taqreeb (3/393)]
In another place Ibn Hajar said:
ضعيف الحفظ معروف بالتدليس القبيح
Weak in memory, famous for evil Tadlees.(Tabqaat Mudalliseen).
Ibn Hajar makes the criticism of Tadlees over Atiyya, this itself is sufficient to discard Atiyya’s reports, because as said earlier Atiyya used to practise evil Tadlees, and would give an impression that he is narrating from Abu Saeed Khudri, where as infact he was narrating from Kalbi, whom he gave the nick name of Abu Saeed, this is one of the reason why Atiyya awfi has been weakened by scholars.
Sheikh Albani explained this issue in his book, stating:
al-Haafidh Ibn Hajr says of him: “Truthful but makes many mistakes; he was a Sbee’ee mudallis.” So he(ibn hajar) clarifies this narrator’s weakness and it is due to two things: (i) The weakness of his memory as shown by his saying: “He makes many mistakes.” This is like his saying about him in Tabaqaatul-Mudalliseen: “weak in hadeeth” Even more clear is his saying about him in “Talkbeesul-Habeer (p.24l, Indian edn.) whilst discussing another hadeeth: “It contains ‘Atiyyah ibn Sa’eed al-‘Awfee and he is weak.” (ii) His tadlees. However al-Haafidh should have explained the type of tadlees which he performed, since tadlees with the scholars of hadeeth is of many types, the most well-known of which are:
(a) That a narrator reports a narration from someone he met when in fact he did not directly hear that narration from him, or that he narrated something from a contemporary whom he did not actually meet, giving the impression that he heard it from him. For example by saying ‘From so and so’ or ‘so and so said.’
(b) That the narrator calls his Shaikh by an unfamiliar name or title, different to the name by which he is commonly known in order to hide his true identity. The scholars have clearly stated that this is something forbidden if his Shaikh was an unreliable narrator, and he does this to hide his identity or to give the impression that he was a different reliable narrator with the same name or title.This is known as tadlees ush-Shuyookh.
The tadlees of Atiyya was of forbidden type as I have explained in my book , Silsilatul ahadeeth-daeefah.(no.24)
So in conclusion we say that ‘Atiyyah used to narrate from Aboo Sa’eed alKhudree(ra), then when he died he used to sit with one of the great liars well known for lying about hadeeth, who was al-Kalbee. Then ‘Atiyyah used to narrate from him, but when doing so would call him ‘Aboo Sa’eed’ to give the impression to those listening that he had heard these narrations from Aboo Sa’eed al-Khudree! This to me in itself would be enough to destroy the credibility of ‘Atiyyah, so how about when we have in addition to it his weak memory! Therefore I would have been pleased for al -Haafidh to clarify the fact that it was this evil type of tadlees which ‘Atiyyah was guilty of, even if only by an indication as he does in Tabaqaatul-Mudalliseen by his saying: “Well-known for evil tadlees” as has preceded. It is as if al-Haafidh forgot or erred, or something else, as humans are prone to make mistakes some – times, since he says about this hadeeth that in one narration ‘Atiyyah says:
“Aboo Sa’eed narrated to me,” and he himself says about this: “Therefore through this we know that we are safe from ‘Atiyyahs tadlees,” as Ibn ‘Alaan narrated from him, and some modern day authors follow him blindly in that. I say: This declaration that he heard it from him would only be of use if his tadlees were of the first type, but the tadlees of ‘Atiyyah is of the second and worse type and will not be cured by this statement since he still said “Aboo Sa’eed narrated to me” which is exactly the evil type of tadlees which he is known for. So from what has preceded it will be clear that ‘Atiyyah is weak due to his poor memory and evil tadlees.
As for the understanding of some people today that the saying of al-Haafidh Ibn Hajr in at-Taqreeb amounts to declaration of the reliability of ‘Atiyyah, then this is something which is not correct at all. I also asked Shaikh Ahmad ibn as- Haafidh Siddeeq when I met him in the Zaahiriyyah Library in Damascus about this understanding and he too found it very strange. For when the mistakes of a narrator become many his reliability is destroyed, as opposed to one whose mistakes are few. The first of these is weak whereas the second is hasan in hadeeth. This is why al-Haafidh in Sharhun-Nukhbah says, that one whose mistakes are many is the partner of one whose memory is poor, and he declares the ahaadeeth of both of them to be rejected, so refer back to that along with the footnotes of Shaikh ‘Alee al-Qaaree (pp 121&130).
[End Quote of Sheik Albani, from his book Tawassul and its types, page 96 & 97].
Regarding the claim that Ibn Hajar considered Atiyya saduq then, Dr. Bashshar Awwad and Sh. Shu`aiyb Al-Arna’ut comment on this view of Ibn Hajar:
“In fact, he is weak. He has been declared weak by Hushaim, Yahya bin Sa’eed Al-Qattan, Ahmed bin Hanbal, Sufiyan Ath-Thawri, Abu Zur’ah Ar-Razi, Ibn Mu`een in some reports, and in other he said: “there is no problem with him”. Also Atiya has been declared weak by Abu Hatim, Nasai, Zawzjani, ibn Adi, Abu Dawud, IBn Hibban, DaarQutni, As-Saaji. So they are all agreed upon declaring him weak. And no one declared him thiqah except Ibn Sa’d. So i don’t know from where he got this, “Saduq, used to make exessive mistakes…” [Tahreer Taqreeb (3/20)].
Hence, the fact that Ibn Hajar said “Makes MANY mistakes” is usually enough to weaken his narration according to the majority of scholars. Some ignorant Shia try to argue that by the terms many mistakes, Ibn Hajar meant tadlees, but is an incorrect argument because Tadlees is not a “mistake”,Tadlees in itself is a pattern/style of narrating. Just like Irsaal. Some Mudalliseen were Thiqa take example Am’ash, even though he was known for doing tadlees. Therefore, when Ibn hajar said that atiyya makes lots of mistakes it was not about tadlees, rather it was regarding his memory like mixing the chains or the narrators. Ibn Hajar listed Tadlees separately, if he meant tadlees as mistakes, then he would have said “Katheer-ul-Tadlees”.
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