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Hisham ibn Hakam Book On Imamate

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Rationalist

Hisham ibn Hakam Book On Imamate
« on: February 14, 2015, 08:17:53 PM »
Brother Ameen said that Hisham ibn Hakam has a book on Imamate.

One of the pupils of Imaam Jafar Al-Sadiq  , Hisham ibne Hakam, wrote a book on the subject of Imaamath in which he set forth its theoretical bases.


Brother where is this book ? Can I get access to it ?

Hani

Re: Hisham ibn Hakam Book On Imamate
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2015, 10:25:21 PM »
Remember these folks fabricate books, such as the fabricated book of Ghaybah attributed to Fadl bin Shadhan.

Also even if you do read in Najashi and Fehrest that he had a book called "Imamah", you can't be sure at all that it is this same book that appeared today.
« Last Edit: February 14, 2015, 10:44:30 PM by Hani »
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

Hani

Re: Hisham ibn Hakam Book On Imamate
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2015, 10:43:19 PM »
LooL look at what al-Tusi says in his Fehrest, he says that Hisham bin al-Hakam has a book called:

وكتاب الرد على شيطان الطاق

[And his book called "Refuting Shaytan-ul-Taq"]

Shia always said that this guy was from the greatest and most pious of twelver Shia, and that only Nasibis and enemies of Ahlul-Bayt call him by the nickname "Shaytan" to degrade him and insult him, and that the Imam used to call him "Mu'min-ul-Taq" for his piety.

Yet it seems Hisham bin al-Hakam disagrees with the Imam and agrees with the Nawasib, that this great Shi`ee narrator and companion of the Imam is in fact a lying filthy devil.

Then al-Tusi lists another book of his called:

وكتاب الرد على هشام الجواليقي

[Book of "Refuting Hisham al-Jawaliqi"]

Al-Jawaliqi is Hisham ibn Salim, Najashi described him as "Thiqatun Thiqah", he wrote one of the Shia 400 Usoul and was a companion of the Imams.

It seems these great companions of the Imams all disagreed on fundamental matters and hated each-other's guts, where was the Imam from all of this? Why are the greatest companions of the Imams all writing books attacking and refuting eachother? WHERE THE HECK WAS THE IMAM!?

A bunch of liars...
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

Rationalist

Re: Hisham ibn Hakam Book On Imamate
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2015, 04:55:59 AM »
This is the same Shaytaan al Taq who told Imam Zayd (as) that okay for the Rafidah to withdraw from his revolt. He then adds that Imam Jafar (as) gave him and Rafidah  the permission do so. On top of that he claims that Imam Jafar (as) praised him for refuting Imam Zayd (as).

The late Kulayni had also quoted a discussion between Mu'min al-Taq and Zayd from some of the companions of Imam, Ahmad Ibn Muhammad Ibn 'Isa, 'Ali Ibn Hakam, Aban Ibn Taghlib and Mu'min al-Taq himself.

 

He said, “Hiding himself from the public, Zayd asked me whether I could see him. When I went to see him, he said, “O Abu Ja’far it seems that your way is different from ours. Don't you like to join us?”

 

“If your brother or your father were instead of you, I would do so”, I replied.

Zayd said, “I want to rise up and fight with these people. I also want you to join me”.

“May I be sacrificed to you! I can not do this,” I said.

“Are you withholding your life from me”, Zayd said.

 

I said, “I will die only once. If there is another proof for Allah on earth other than you, whosoever joins you instead of him, shall be subjugated and if there is no proof for him, it will make no difference to him whether he joins you or not.”

 

Zayd said, “O, Abu Ja’far, When my father and I were eating food with each other, my father made it cool for me to eat. While I was treated so kindly, you tell me now that the hellfire will not have mercy on me. How is it possible for my father to tell you about (the proof) while I am not aware of it at all?”

 

I said to him, “He did not tell you anything about it since he was afraid that you might not approve of it and meet the hell fire. But your father told me that if I accepted him, I would behave him well. May I be sacrificed to you, are you superior to the prophets?”

 

“The prophets”, he said.

I said, “Jacob told Josef,

 

قَالَ يَا بُنَيَّ لَا تَقْصُصْ رُؤْيَاكَ عَلَى إِخْوَتِكَ فَيَكِيدُوا لَكَ كَيْدًا إِنَّ الشَّيْطَانَ لِلْإِنسَانِ عَدُوٌّ مُبِينٌ.

 

“Alas! O son, he said, reveal not your dream to brothers for they fall in envy of you.”

Your father also hid the truth from you since he was afraid of you”.

 

Zayd said, “Your master, he referred to Imam as-Sadiq (a), had told me that I would be killed in Medina and hung in Kunasa. He has a book in which there is the news of my martyrdom”.

 

Mu'min al-Taq said, “Thereafter, I went to Medina and informed Imam about what had happened between us, praising me for what I had done, Imam said that I had closed all ways of reasoning to him




 

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