TwelverShia.net Forum

Sunni Shia Discussion Forum => Hadith-Rijal => Topic started by: Khaled on July 02, 2015, 11:20:48 PM

Title: Interesting statistic re: number of narrations on the authority of Ali (r)
Post by: Khaled on July 02, 2015, 11:20:48 PM: One of the main argument Shi'is have against Sunnis is that we are Nawasib and we hate Ali رضي الله عنه. The worst of us, according to the Shi'is, is the Hanaabilah, headed by Ahmad bin Hanbal رحمه الله.

Now, most of you know one of the biggest hadeeth Encyclopedias written in the time of the Salaf was the "Musnad" compiled by Ahmad bin Hanbal رحمه الله. In it, he categorizes his ahadeeth the name of the Companion who narrated them; so he starts out with a chapter on Abu Bark's narrations, then Omar, then Uthman, then Ali etc.

The number of narrations he narrates on the authority of Ali رضي الله عنه is: 804, while the number of narrations found in the four books of Shi'i hadeeth is only 690. Meaning, by himself, Imam Ahmad narrated more reports on the authority of Ali رضي الله عنه then all the major Shi'a hadeeth books combined.

Amusingly enough, when comparing narrations on the authority of Hassan: Imam Ahmad has 19 while the Shi'i books have 21, and on the authority of Hussayn: Imam Ahmad has 18 while the Shi'a have ONLY 7!!
Title: Re: Interesting statistic re: number of narrations on the authority of Ali (r)
Post by: Al Dukhan on July 02, 2015, 11:34:20 PM: SubhanAllah !
Title: Re: Interesting statistic re: number of narrations on the authority of Ali (r)
Post by: scusemyenglish on April 29, 2016, 08:11:52 PM: Also in Shia books there are no lot of hadith from Ali?

You Know why there are no lot of hadith from Ali in generally?
Title: Re: Interesting statistic re: number of narrations on the authority of Ali (r)
Post by: scusemyenglish on April 29, 2016, 09:36:58 PM: I have read that Ali have between 100/ 200 hadith in all our books.

It's true?
Title: Re: Interesting statistic re: number of narrations on the authority of Ali (r)
Post by: Hani on April 29, 2016, 11:46:16 PM: Nader Zaveri did a statistic on this I recall. Refer to that as well.
Title: Re: Interesting statistic re: number of narrations on the authority of Ali (r)
Post by: scusemyenglish on April 30, 2016, 02:50:09 AM: Quote from: Hani on April 29, 2016, 11:46:16 PM
Nader Zaveri did a statistic on this I recall. Refer to that as well.

sorry bro i have not find
Title: Re: Interesting statistic re: number of narrations on the authority of Ali (r)
Post by: scusemyenglish on May 07, 2016, 09:38:15 PM: Someone have the number of hadith from Ali in our Hadith?

And you have the number of hadith from Abou Bakr, Omar and othman?
Title: Re: Interesting statistic re: number of narrations on the authority of Ali (r)
Post by: MuslimK on May 08, 2016, 02:53:17 AM: Quote from: scusemyenglish on April 30, 2016, 02:50:09 AM
sorry bro i have not find

http://forum.twelvershia.net/hadith-rijal/number-of-hadith-by-fatimah-al-hasan-and-al-husayn-in-sunni-and-shia-works/msg534/#msg534
Title: Re: Interesting statistic re: number of narrations on the authority of Ali (r)
Post by: scusemyenglish on May 08, 2016, 12:36:29 PM: Quote from: AbuMuslimKhorasani on May 08, 2016, 02:53:17 AM
Quote from: scusemyenglish on April 30, 2016, 02:50:09 AM
sorry bro i have not find

http://forum.twelvershia.net/hadith-rijal/number-of-hadith-by-fatimah-al-hasan-and-al-husayn-in-sunni-and-shia-works/msg534/#msg534

Sahit,

Nader Zavevi has deliberately omit Musnad Ahmed in his calculation?
Title: Re: Interesting statistic re: number of narrations on the authority of Ali (r)
Post by: MuslimK on May 08, 2016, 04:41:18 PM: No, he only showed statistics for the four main Shia hadith books and six main Sunni hadith books.
Title: Re: Interesting statistic re: number of narrations on the authority of Ali (r)
Post by: scusemyenglish on May 08, 2016, 06:03:28 PM: Slm and we have statistics about Merites of Ali? He is the one who has the most hadith about his merites in our books?