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Title: Kitab wa Sunna
Post by: scusemyenglish on August 16, 2016, 08:48:44 PM
Salam.

Please can you say me if the hadith about " You must follow kitab and my sunna" is authentic or not?

Same thing about " Kitab and My family" Authentic or not

And the narration " My sunna and the sunna of righly califs"

Barak'Allah ou fikoum
Title: Re: Kitab wa Sunna
Post by: taha taha on August 17, 2016, 01:00:34 AM
I think you know the answer but want a response from the shia on here. :)
Title: Re: Kitab wa Sunna
Post by: scusemyenglish on August 17, 2016, 01:58:07 AM
I think you know the answer but want a response from the shia on here. :)

hahaha

Salam.

No .

I want the sunni answer because I am new in this issu of Sunni and shia.

And I have seen one sunni deviants ( see my topic about Boukhari and al mouawidatayn) and he said "hadith about Kitaw wa sunna is ommeya fabrication.

But When  I have seen his article, I did know he was an Adnan Ibrahim supporter. So during many mounth I believed some narrations above are dahif.

It's just yesterday I have understood why he talk about "ommeya fabrication"

So i want the view of classic sunni. Insh Allah.
Title: Re: Kitab wa Sunna
Post by: Farid on August 17, 2016, 02:45:28 AM
Wa alaykum alsalam,

Kitab Allah wa Sunnati is weak. It doesn't have a single strong chain.

Sunnat Al Khulafaa' is weak in my opinion, but some scholars have strengthened it because it came from several paths.

Qur'an and Ahlulbayt is come in many hadiths. The most authentic is by Zaid bin Arqam in Saheeh Muslim. He says that the Prophet peace be upon him said, "Hold onto the Quran and take care of my Ahlulbayt." I think we have an article on this topic on the main website.
Title: Re: Kitab wa Sunna
Post by: taha taha on August 17, 2016, 02:15:45 PM
But what are they trying to say.
That we do not need to follow the Quran or the Sunnah?
Title: Re: Kitab wa Sunna
Post by: scusemyenglish on August 17, 2016, 02:33:43 PM
But what are they trying to say.
That we do not need to follow the Quran or the Sunnah?

Yes .

I think there is one video of Adnan Ibrahim .

entitled " Follow my sunna or my familly"?

I imagine this rouwaybidah want say with demagogeury "don't follow the sunna".
Title: Re: Kitab wa Sunna
Post by: scusemyenglish on August 17, 2016, 02:36:58 PM
Wa alaykum alsalam,

Kitab Allah wa Sunnati is weak. It doesn't have a single strong chain.

Sunnat Al Khulafaa' is weak in my opinion, but some scholars have strengthened it because it came from several paths.

Qur'an and Ahlulbayt is come in many hadiths. The most authentic is by Zaid bin Arqam in Saheeh Muslim. He says that the Prophet peace be upon him said, "Hold onto the Quran and take care of my Ahlulbayt." I think we have an article on this topic on the main website.


Aligato Farid
Title: Re: Kitab wa Sunna
Post by: MuslimK on August 17, 2016, 02:48:08 PM
But what are they trying to say.
That we do not need to follow the Quran or the Sunnah?

Yeah, thats what they are trying to say but they don't realise how dangerious their statement is.

Anyways, Quran and Sunah is proven from the Quran itself.
Title: Re: Kitab wa Sunna
Post by: taha taha on August 17, 2016, 04:25:10 PM
He said: “You must adhere to my Sunnah and the way of the Rightly-Guided Caliphs who come after me. Adhere to it and cling to it strongly, and beware of newly-invented matters, for every newly-invented matter is an innovation (bid’ah) and every innovation is a going astray.” Narrated by Abu Dawood (4607) and classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood.

 8)
Title: Re: Kitab wa Sunna
Post by: taha taha on August 17, 2016, 04:25:41 PM
He said: “  Rightly-Guided Caliphs  
Who are the Rightly-Guided Caliphs

https://islamqa.info/en/89878