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scusemyenglish

Kitab wa Sunna
« on: August 16, 2016, 08:48:44 PM »
Salam.

Please can you say me if the hadith about " You must follow kitab and my sunna" is authentic or not?

Same thing about " Kitab and My family" Authentic or not

And the narration " My sunna and the sunna of righly califs"

Barak'Allah ou fikoum
Abou Hourayra narrated that the messenger saws said:

"“There will come to the people years
of treachery (...) the Ruwaibidhah will decide matters.”
It was said

 'Who are the Ruwaibidhah?'

The Prophet replied:

 “Vile and
ignorant men who will speak in the affairs of the people.”

taha taha

Re: Kitab wa Sunna
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2016, 01:00:34 AM »
I think you know the answer but want a response from the shia on here. :)

scusemyenglish

Re: Kitab wa Sunna
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2016, 01:58:07 AM »
I think you know the answer but want a response from the shia on here. :)

hahaha

Salam.

No .

I want the sunni answer because I am new in this issu of Sunni and shia.

And I have seen one sunni deviants ( see my topic about Boukhari and al mouawidatayn) and he said "hadith about Kitaw wa sunna is ommeya fabrication.

But When  I have seen his article, I did know he was an Adnan Ibrahim supporter. So during many mounth I believed some narrations above are dahif.

It's just yesterday I have understood why he talk about "ommeya fabrication"

So i want the view of classic sunni. Insh Allah.
Abou Hourayra narrated that the messenger saws said:

"“There will come to the people years
of treachery (...) the Ruwaibidhah will decide matters.”
It was said

 'Who are the Ruwaibidhah?'

The Prophet replied:

 “Vile and
ignorant men who will speak in the affairs of the people.”

Farid

Re: Kitab wa Sunna
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2016, 02:45:28 AM »
Wa alaykum alsalam,

Kitab Allah wa Sunnati is weak. It doesn't have a single strong chain.

Sunnat Al Khulafaa' is weak in my opinion, but some scholars have strengthened it because it came from several paths.

Qur'an and Ahlulbayt is come in many hadiths. The most authentic is by Zaid bin Arqam in Saheeh Muslim. He says that the Prophet peace be upon him said, "Hold onto the Quran and take care of my Ahlulbayt." I think we have an article on this topic on the main website.

taha taha

Re: Kitab wa Sunna
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2016, 02:15:45 PM »
But what are they trying to say.
That we do not need to follow the Quran or the Sunnah?

scusemyenglish

Re: Kitab wa Sunna
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2016, 02:33:43 PM »
But what are they trying to say.
That we do not need to follow the Quran or the Sunnah?

Yes .

I think there is one video of Adnan Ibrahim .

entitled " Follow my sunna or my familly"?

I imagine this rouwaybidah want say with demagogeury "don't follow the sunna".
Abou Hourayra narrated that the messenger saws said:

"“There will come to the people years
of treachery (...) the Ruwaibidhah will decide matters.”
It was said

 'Who are the Ruwaibidhah?'

The Prophet replied:

 “Vile and
ignorant men who will speak in the affairs of the people.”

scusemyenglish

Re: Kitab wa Sunna
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2016, 02:36:58 PM »
Wa alaykum alsalam,

Kitab Allah wa Sunnati is weak. It doesn't have a single strong chain.

Sunnat Al Khulafaa' is weak in my opinion, but some scholars have strengthened it because it came from several paths.

Qur'an and Ahlulbayt is come in many hadiths. The most authentic is by Zaid bin Arqam in Saheeh Muslim. He says that the Prophet peace be upon him said, "Hold onto the Quran and take care of my Ahlulbayt." I think we have an article on this topic on the main website.


Aligato Farid
Abou Hourayra narrated that the messenger saws said:

"“There will come to the people years
of treachery (...) the Ruwaibidhah will decide matters.”
It was said

 'Who are the Ruwaibidhah?'

The Prophet replied:

 “Vile and
ignorant men who will speak in the affairs of the people.”

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Re: Kitab wa Sunna
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2016, 02:48:08 PM »
But what are they trying to say.
That we do not need to follow the Quran or the Sunnah?

Yeah, thats what they are trying to say but they don't realise how dangerious their statement is.

Anyways, Quran and Sunah is proven from the Quran itself.
در خلافت میل نیست ای بی‌خبر
میل کی آید ز بوبکر و عمر
میل اگر بودی در آن دو مقتدا
هر دو کردندی پسر را پیشوا

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Re: Kitab wa Sunna
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2016, 04:25:10 PM »
He said: “You must adhere to my Sunnah and the way of the Rightly-Guided Caliphs who come after me. Adhere to it and cling to it strongly, and beware of newly-invented matters, for every newly-invented matter is an innovation (bid’ah) and every innovation is a going astray.” Narrated by Abu Dawood (4607) and classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood.

 8)
« Last Edit: August 17, 2016, 04:26:23 PM by taha taha »

taha taha

Re: Kitab wa Sunna
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2016, 04:25:41 PM »
He said: “  Rightly-Guided Caliphs
Who are the Rightly-Guided Caliphs

https://islamqa.info/en/89878
« Last Edit: August 17, 2016, 04:28:13 PM by taha taha »

 

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