Shared Sunni/Shia narrations

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Shared Sunni/Shia narrations
« on: October 04, 2016, 05:24:24 PM »
Salaam alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakathou,

Often times, we have Shias quoting a hadith (from Sunni sources) asking us to justify for what they consider to be a "blunder".  When we research, thanks to the effort and work put in by brothers here, we find the same narration (incident or event) also mentioned in their books.  Take for example the hadith which states that Musa (asws) was exposed to Bani Isra'il when the rocks, upon which clothes rested, took off running.  We find the same narration in Tafseer Al-Qummi.

Therefore, I have a suggestion and a humble request to compile all such narrations in one sticky topic where we have the Sunni hadith followed by the same one from Shia sources.  It will be highly beneficial and time-saving.

We can start right here on this topic.  In fact, I will start:

Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet (s) said, 'The (people of) Bani Israel used to take bath naked (all together) looking at each other. The Prophet (s) Moses used to take a bath alone. They said, 'By Allah! Nothing prevents Moses from taking a bath with us except that he has a scrotal hernia.' So once Moses went out to take a bath and put his clothes over a stone and then that stone ran away with his clothes. Moses followed that stone saying, "My clothes, O stone! My clothes, O stone! till the people of Bani Israel saw him and said, 'By Allah, Moses has got no defect in his body. Moses took his clothes and began to beat the stone." Abu Huraira added, "By Allah! There are still six or seven marks present on the stone from that excessive beating."

From Abī Baṣīr from Abī `Abd Allāh (عليه السلام) that the Banī Isrā`īl used to say Mūsa that he was not like (other) men. Mūsa (عليه السلام) wanted to wash himself, and he went to a place where no one from the people can see him. And it was day, and he was washing himself on the shore of a river and he placed his clothes on a rock. And Allāh commanded the rocket to run away from him until the Banū Isrā`īl saw him, and they knew he is not like what they said, and Allāh revealed, “O those who believe, be not like those who annoyed/harmed Mūsa” (33:69)  (Source: al-Qummi, Tafseer - Qum Daar al-Kitaab, 3rd edition 1404), vol. 2, pg. 197)
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Optimus Prime

Re: Shared Sunni/Shia narrations
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2016, 01:31:54 PM »
Asalamualaikum brother.

Good to see you here. :)

That's a GREAT idea. Let's hope a staff member will sticky this thread.

Optimus Prime

Re: Shared Sunni/Shia narrations
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2016, 04:35:41 AM »
Is any member of staff going to bother providing an answer to the brother's request?


Re: Shared Sunni/Shia narrations
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2016, 09:27:37 AM »
Wa alaykum alsalam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh,

I do not support this idea being in the form of a thread. It will get lost in the sea of threads. A better option is to turn this into an article with sub-sections so that it would be easier for people to look up.

I, frankly, don't have the time for such a major project. Look up البرهان في تبرئة أبي هريرة من البهتان. The author provides sixty questionable narrations about Abu Huraira that can be found in Shia sources.


Re: Shared Sunni/Shia narrations
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2016, 06:49:20 AM »
^any English links for those 60 questionable narrations?


Re: Shared Sunni/Shia narrations
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2016, 07:41:10 AM »


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Re: Shared Sunni/Shia narrations
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2016, 02:29:51 PM »

Amazing! really happy to know it is available in English.
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Re: Shared Sunni/Shia narrations
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2016, 03:13:13 PM »

Salaam alaykum wa rahmatullah,
JazakAllah khair.  May Allah (swt) bless you.

However, let us keep this topic going.  I do not mind going through a few pages of material using Ctrl + F.


Re: Shared Sunni/Shia narrations
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2016, 12:07:42 PM »

حَدَّثَنَا عُثْمَانُ بْنُ إِسْمَاعِيلَ الْهُذَلِيُّ الدِّمَشْقِيُّ، حَدَّثَنَا الْوَلِيدُ بْنُ مُسْلِمٍ، عَنِ ابْنِ أَبِي ذِئْبٍ، عَنِ الزِّبْرِقَانِ بْنِ عَمْرٍو الضَّمْرِيِّ، عَنْ أُسَامَةَ بْنِ زَيْدٍ، قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ ‏ "‏ لَيَنْتَهِيَنَّ رِجَالٌ عَنْ تَرْكِ الْجَمَاعَةِ أَوْ لأُحَرِّقَنَّ بُيُوتَهُمْ ‏"‏ ‏.‏

"The Messenger of Allah said: 'Let men desist from failing to attend the congregation, otherwise I will burn their houses down.'" (Sunan Ibn Majah 795, Sahih)

وَ عَنْهُ عَنِ النَّضْرِ عَنِ ابْنِ سِنَانٍ عَنْ أَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ع قَالَ سَمِعْتُهُ يَقُولُ إِنَّ أُنَاساً كَانُوا عَلَى عَهْدِ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ ص أَبْطَئُوا عَنِ الصَّلَاةِ فِي الْمَسْجِدِ فَقَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ص لَيُوشِكُ قَوْمٌ يَدَعُونَ الصَّلَاةَ فِي الْمَسْجِدِ أَنْ نَأْمُرَ بِحَطَبٍ فَيُوضَعَ عَلَى أَبْوَابِهِمْ فَتُوقَدَ عَلَيْهِمْ نَارٌ فَتُحْرَقَ عَلَيْهِمْ بُيُوتُهُمْ

From Ibn Sinān from Abī `Abd Allāh (عليه السلام) said he heard him say: “Verily, people upon the covenant of the Messenger of Allāh (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) slacked from praying in the masjid. So the Messenger of Allāh (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) said: ‘People are on the verge of leaving praying in the masjid, so we will command firewood to be placed on their doors and burn fire upon them, and set fire over their houses (to those who don’t pray in the masjid)”
1.     Al-Tūsī, Tahdhīb al-Aḥkām, 10 vols., (Tehran: Dār al-Kutub al-Islāmiyyah, 4th Edition, 1407 AH), vol. 3, pg. 25, hadeeth # 6/Majlisi sahi


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