Grading of Imams of ahle bayt

[zaid_ibn_ali]

Does anyone know the grading of the following members of ahle bayt:

Muhammad al jawaad ibn Ali (whom shia refer as 9th imam)

Ali an naqi ibn muhammad (10th imam)

Hasan al askari (11th imam)?

Also the following sons of Jafar Sadiq:

Ismail, Abdullah, Mohammad, Ishaq & Ali?

[zaid_ibn_ali]

No where can I seem to find anything on these figures of ahle bayt in sunni literature online.
They are presented as demi gods by various shia sects yet we have nothing to counter this propaganda?

[Hani]

Muhammad bin Ali, Ali bin Muhammad and Askari are of an unknown condition in narrating. Ali bin Jafar is the same but Shia think he's Thiqah.

I don't recall abt the 3 others.

[zaid_ibn_ali]

A quick read on the internet yields:

Al-Dhahabi, the Shafi'i Muhaddith and historian, in his book Al-Miizaan said, "Ali bin Ja'far al-Sadiq narrated hadith from his father, also from his brother (i.e. Musa al-Kadhim), and also from Sufyan al-Thawri. Al-Tirmidhi also narrated the hadith from him in his book. "
Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani, another Shafi'i Hadith scholar, in his book At-Taqrib said, "Ali ibn Ja'far ibn Muhammad ibn Ali ibn Husayn was one of the great figures..."
Ahmad ibn Hanbal narrated from Ali al-Uraidhi in his Musnad (Hadith collection).

[Hani]

So he's Majhool as stated.

[zaid_ibn_ali]

Majhool? Not sure what that is.
Also how do you reach this conclusion?

According to the muslim scholars database, Ishaq ibn Jafar is sadooq.

[Hani]

Majhool al-Hal means his condition in narrating is unknown, thus he's unreliable so we don't accept whatever he narrates as authentic. Besides the man never even met his own father.

[zaid_ibn_ali]

Brother please provide sources for your statements. I'm not disagreeing with you, its just I only accept statements backed by references.

[GreatChineseFall]

Ishaq ibn Ja'far in Tahdheeb al Tahdheeb by Ibn Hajr:

إسحاق بن جعفر بن محمد بن علي بن الحسين بن علي بن أبي طالب روى عن كثير بن عبد الله بن عمرو بن عوف وعبد الله بن جعفر المخزومي وصالح بن معاوية بن عبد الله بن جعفر وغيرهم وعنه إبراهيم بن المنذر ويعقوب بن حميد بن كاسب ويعقوب بن محمد الزهري وغيرهم قال عثمان الدارمي عن بن معين ما أراه كان الا صدوقا قلت وذكره بن حبان في الثقات وقال كان يخطئ وقال غيره قدم مصر ومات بها وهو زوج السيدة نفيسة بنت الحسن بن زيد بن الحسن بن علي رضي الله تعالى عنهم >> ز ت فق البخاري في جزء القراءة خلف الإمام والترمذي ومسلم في المقدمة

The relevant part says:

"... Uthman ad Darimi said from Ibn Ma'een: "I don't see anything in him except that he was Saduq(truthful)", and Ibn Hibban mentioned him in his Thiqat and it is said that he made mistakes ..."

So he was Saduq and made mistakes