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Sunni Shia Discussion Forum => Imamah-Ghaybah => Topic started by: Link on August 24, 2017, 08:26:11 PM

Title: A week debate - challenge.
Post by: Link on August 24, 2017, 08:26:11 PM
I would like to debate any of the following within a week, because, I will be busy after that with my degree.

1. Verse 4:59.
2. Verse 5:12.
3. Verse 5:55.
4. Verse 5:67
5. Verse 33:33
6. Hadithal Thaqalain and it's meaning.
7. Verse 13:7.
8. Suratal Inshira and whether or not it's primarily in praise of Ali and his successors.
9. The position of Aaron as the successor of Moses in Quran and how it's proven through Quran and how also the wisdom of successors is emphasized through him.
10. Verse 42:23.
11. Verse 28:86.
12. Verse 10:35.
13. The meaning of "Twelve Caliphs from Quraysh" hadiths in light of Quran and other ahadith.
14.  What "Taghut" is and how to recognize all those who are part of its body.
15. The meaning of "Leadership" in Suratal Furqan and who "servants of the Compassionate" refers to.
16. The chosen ones who inherited the book....who they are.
17. The place of Aaron to Moses - hadith. What it must mean.
Title: Re: A week debate - challenge.
Post by: Link on August 25, 2017, 07:26:07 PM
I guess everyone is a little too chicken. *smiles*

Title: Re: A week debate - challenge.
Post by: Abu Muhammad on August 25, 2017, 07:54:05 PM
I guess everyone is a little too chicken. *smiles*



I saw several verses of Quran in your list. Why would someone with sane mind want to debate a guy who is not qualify to explain the holy book:

"Shiite scholars are also not fit to explain Quran. Neither am I."

*smiles*
Title: Re: A week debate - challenge.
Post by: Mythbuster1 on August 25, 2017, 07:56:15 PM
LOL
Title: Re: A week debate - challenge.
Post by: Hadrami on August 26, 2017, 05:04:29 AM
I guess everyone is a little too chicken. *smiles*
coming from a nutcase whose mighty leader chicken out and ran away for 1000+yrs. Link, your comment should be the quote of the week 😂😂
Title: Re: A week debate - challenge.
Post by: Farid on August 27, 2017, 01:10:42 AM
Link, you will not be debating anyone unless the debate is moderated I'm afraid. You have a tendency of avoiding questions with your batini approach to Islam and that will not be entertained here.

Apart from making sure that the two sides stick to general debate rules, the moderator will make sure that both sides answer the questions that they are asked.

If you do not accept this, then you can look for a debate elsewhere.

Title: Re: A week debate - challenge.
Post by: Link on August 27, 2017, 01:25:06 AM
I don't have a problem with those conditions.

The only condition I would suggest on top of that is the questions don't go all over the place but are on point.


Title: Re: A week debate - challenge.
Post by: Farid on August 27, 2017, 02:22:49 AM
Of course. No diverting will be allowed.
Title: Re: A week debate - challenge.
Post by: Hamid ibn Askar on August 27, 2017, 02:36:36 AM
I would like to debate any of the following within a week, because, I will be busy after that with my degree.

1. Verse 4:59.
2. Verse 5:12.
3. Verse 5:55.
4. Verse 5:67
5. Verse 33:33
6. Hadithal Thaqalain and it's meaning.
7. Verse 13:7.
8. Suratal Inshira and whether or not it's primarily in praise of Ali and his successors.
9. The position of Aaron as the successor of Moses in Quran and how it's proven through Quran and how also the wisdom of successors is emphasized through him.
10. Verse 42:23.
11. Verse 28:86.
12. Verse 10:35.
13. The meaning of "Twelve Caliphs from Quraysh" hadiths in light of Quran and other ahadith.
14.  What "Taghut" is and how to recognize all those who are part of its body.
15. The meaning of "Leadership" in Suratal Furqan and who "servants of the Compassionate" refers to.
16. The chosen ones who inherited the book....who they are.
17. The place of Aaron to Moses - hadith. What it must mean.


I accept your challenge.

Let's start with 4:59.
Title: Re: A week debate - challenge.
Post by: Link on August 27, 2017, 02:51:23 AM
I would like to debate any of the following within a week, because, I will be busy after that with my degree.

1. Verse 4:59.
2. Verse 5:12.
3. Verse 5:55.
4. Verse 5:67
5. Verse 33:33
6. Hadithal Thaqalain and it's meaning.
7. Verse 13:7.
8. Suratal Inshira and whether or not it's primarily in praise of Ali and his successors.
9. The position of Aaron as the successor of Moses in Quran and how it's proven through Quran and how also the wisdom of successors is emphasized through him.
10. Verse 42:23.
11. Verse 28:86.
12. Verse 10:35.
13. The meaning of "Twelve Caliphs from Quraysh" hadiths in light of Quran and other ahadith.
14.  What "Taghut" is and how to recognize all those who are part of its body.
15. The meaning of "Leadership" in Suratal Furqan and who "servants of the Compassionate" refers to.
16. The chosen ones who inherited the book....who they are.
17. The place of Aaron to Moses - hadith. What it must mean.


I accept your challenge.

Let's start with 4:59.


Ok but it is not let us start I have 1 week and this is probably going to be the only topic.

It is going to be what we debate.
Title: Re: A week debate - challenge.
Post by: Farid on August 27, 2017, 04:54:35 AM
Inshallah a thread will be created within 24 hours by an admin and only you two will post.

Basic forum rules of no insults or abusive language need to be observed.

No copying and pasting.

In order for the topic to be readable it will have to be limited. Fifteen posts per person should be sufficient in my opinion. Nobody wants to read a twenty page forum debate. (I learned that the hard way a few years ago.)

Direct and relevant questions need to be answered by both parties.

Posts will be limited to a reasonable amount of words for ideas to get across. This isn't an essay writing competition. 150 words should be the limit for a single post.

Any objections?

Link, please be clear on what you are arguing for with 4:59? Is it the Imamate of Ali? The concept of Imamate? Please be clear.
Title: Re: A week debate - challenge.
Post by: Link on August 27, 2017, 05:16:36 AM
The claim is as follows:

Ulil-Amr in 4:59 refers to divinely appointed/chosen leaders who are the successors of the Prophet starting with Imam Ali.
Title: Re: A week debate - challenge.
Post by: Hamid ibn Askar on August 27, 2017, 12:41:15 PM
This will be very was for me to refute i hope you understand that before wasting your time.
Title: Re: A week debate - challenge.
Post by: Hamid ibn Askar on August 27, 2017, 01:34:30 PM
This will be very easy for me to refute i hope you understand that before wasting your time.
Title: Re: A week debate - challenge.
Post by: Link on August 27, 2017, 06:03:17 PM
Let us get the debate going!
Title: Re: A week debate - challenge.
Post by: Link on September 01, 2017, 02:42:57 PM
I pre-pose some else debates.

My opponent hasn't had anything of substance to say as of yet.