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Sunni Shia Discussion Forum => Imamah-Ghaybah => Topic started by: Kalaam on March 03, 2019, 07:26:01 PM
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There is a Shia narration in the book of Sheikh Saduq which mentions that there was a person named Burda who transferred the legacy of the prophets to the last prophet (s).
Narrated to us Muhammad bin Hasan bin Ahmad bin Walid (r.a.) that he said: Narrated to us Muhammad bin Hasan as-Saffar and Saad bin Abdullah and Abdullah bin Ja’far Himyari, all of them said: Narrated to us Ahmad bin Muhammad bin Isa; and Muhammad bin Husain bin Abil Khattab; and Haitham bin Abi Masruq Nahdi; and Ibrahim bin Hashim from Hasan bin Mahboob Sarrad from Muqatil bin Sulaiman Ibne Dawal Doz from Abi Abdullah (a.s.) that he said: The Messenger of Allah (S) said:
“I am the chief (Sayyid) of the prophets, and my successor is a chief and the greatest among the successors of prophets. My successors are the best among the successors of prophets. Indeed Adam (a.s.) implored Allah to bestow him with a noble successor. Allah revealed to him, ‘I have exalted My prophets with Messengership for testing the faith of the creatures. And from the righteous people chose successors of the prophets.
O Adam! Make a bequest to your son Sheeth.’ He was Hibtullah the son of Adam (a.s.). Adam (a.s.) appointed him as his successor. Sheeth (a.s.) appointed Shaban as his vicegerent. Shaban was born through the Hoori sent by Allah from Paradise as a wife for Sheeth (a.s.). Shaban bequeathed the vicegerency to his son Mohhith. Mohhith to Mahooq, Mahooq to Ameesha, Ameesha to Akhnooh. Akhnooh is known as Idrees (a.s.). Idrees (a.s.) appointed Nahoor as his legatee, Nahoor’s bequest was for Nuh (a.s.). Saam was the vicegerent of Nuh (a.s.) Saam delegated to Athamar, Athamar to Bareeshasha, Bareeshasha to Yaafith, Yaafith to Baraa, Baraa to Jafeena, Jafeena to Imran.
Imran transferred the legacy to Ibrahim (a.s.), Ibrahim to Ismail, Ismail to Ishaq, Ishaq to Yaqoob, Yaqoob to Yusuf, Yusuf to Bathariya, Bathariya to Shuaib. Shuaib entrusted the legacy to Musa (a.s.), the son of Imran. Musa (a.s.) to Yusha bin Nun. Yusha to Dawood; Dawood to Sulaiman, Sulaiman to Asif bin Barkhiya. Asif to Zakariya, Zakariya to Sayaa, Sayaa to Isa son of Maryam (a.s.). Isa (a.s.) bequeathed to Shamoon, Shamoon to Yahya bin Zakariya. Yahya bin Zakariya to Mundar, Mundar to Saleema, Saleema to Burda, Burda entrusted the legacies to me. And O Ali! I make the bequest to you.
Can someone shed some light on this Burda?
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There is a Shia narration in the book of Sheikh Saduq which mentions that there was a person named Burda who transferred the legacy of the prophets to the last prophet (s).
Can someone shed some light on this Burda?
A couple of quick questions - between Yusuf (as) and Musa/Shuaib (as) (they were contemporaries) there's 300 years but there is one person between them?
Between Shuaib/Musa (as) and Dawood (as) there is 300 years but there is only one person between them?
Between Sulayman (as) and Yahya/Isa (as) (they were contemporaries) there's some 950 years but there is one person between them. Also Yahya (as) died in the life of Isa (as), how did Shamoon give this to Yahya (as)? Shamoon/Simon Peter was the first Pope of the Catholics and they have a unbroken chain of men that go back to this personality; who they also consider infallible guides...
Finally between Yahya/Isa (as) and Muhammed (saw) there is 600 years and there is only 3 people?
Perplexing.
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A couple of quick questions - between Yusuf (as) and Musa/Shuaib (as) (they were contemporaries) there's 300 years but there is one person between them?
Between Shuaib/Musa (as) and Dawood (as) there is 300 years but there is only one person between them?
Between Sulayman (as) and Yahya/Isa (as) (they were contemporaries) there's some 950 years but there is one person between them. Also Yahya (as) died in the life of Isa (as), how did Shamoon give this to Yahya (as)? Shamoon/Simon Peter was the first Pope of the Catholics and they have a unbroken chain of men that go back to this personality; who they also consider infallible guides...
I heard that there were 70,000 Israeli Prophets. So all Prophets are not mentioned by named. Recall in the Quran when Talut (as) was appointed to lead there was a Prophet among them who isn't mentioned by name.
Finally between Yahya/Isa (as) and Muhammed (saw) there is 600 years and there is only 3 people?
Perplexing.
In Surah Yaseen there are 3 Prophets mentioned without being named and they came after Prophet Isa (as).
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I heard that there were 70,000 Israeli Prophets. So all Prophets are not mentioned by named. Recall in the Quran when Talut (as) was appointed to lead there was a Prophet among them who isn't mentioned by name.
In Surah Yaseen there are 3 Prophets mentioned without being named and they came after Prophet Isa (as).
Salam,
The narration that was quoted, named specific people who transferred Imamah to other Imams/Prophets - that's the issue, there isn't room for unnamed Imams/Prophets in between:
Between Shuaib/Musa (as) and Dawood (as) there is 300 years but there is only one person between them?
...legacy to Musa (a.s.), the son of Imran. Musa (a.s.) to Yusha bin Nun. Yusha to Dawood...
Between Sulayman (as) and Yahya/Isa (as) (they were contemporaries) there's some 950 years but there are 3 people between them. Also Yahya (as) died in the life of Isa (as), how did Shamoon give this to Yahya (as)? Shamoon/Simon Peter was the first Pope of the Catholics and they have a unbroken chain of men that go back to this personality; who they also consider infallible guides...
Sulaiman to Asif bin Barkhiya. Asif to Zakariya, Zakariya to Sayaa, Sayaa to Isa son of Maryam (a.s.)
If it's true the Simon Peter/Shamoon is the infallible guide after Isa (as) there is a problem - (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/Tafel_paepste.jpg)
Finally between Yahya/Isa (as) and Muhammed (saw) there is 600 years and there is only 3 people?
...Yahya bin Zakariya to Mundar, Mundar to Saleema, Saleema to Burda, Burda entrusted the legacies to me
Still perplexing...