Corrupting the place of words in Quran from their place and the dark sorcery.

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3:7 shows two things come from the Quran.

(1)Clear Signs.


The Quran has shown with knowledge - the believers - come to see the Quran is the truth. It has forbidden to follow ambiguity. 

In Suratal Haaj, it is mention with respect to the will of either Messenger or a Nabi, Satan cast regarding it. It said it is a trial for hard hearts and they follow what Satan cast. 5:13 Comes after reminding of the covenant with the children of Israel and Moses (a) with respect to his Twelve Successors (a) (5:12) and explains that they misplaced verses from their place, they corrupted them from their place.

Most of the hadiths making a case for Ahlulbayt (a) in Quran, are all about contextualizing verses about Imams (a) back to their proper place. For example, connecting 4:54 with 4:59.  The hadith about 42:23 from Imam Reda (a) in his debate with scholars about the position of Mohammad's family (a) in Quran, emphasized that preceding lines and after are self-explanatory to what is meant by "love in the Qurba" and they explain in themselves, so there is no need to dispute, when context proves what is meant.

The assumption by Sunnis - is what they themselves can see of Quran  is clear signs and what they can't perceive is unclear. This is a false assumption.  Clear signs in Quran require (1) reflection (2) defeating sorcery of Iblis by taking refuge in God.

The discussion between Sunni and Shias - have in large part - ignored what Quran has discussed of sorcery of God's enemies and the enemies of God's chosen ones.  The assumption is that Quran would clearly display Imams (a) if God wanted us to follow them. This is true, but what people don't understand, is how clear Imams (a) are in Quran yet how the sorcery distorts our recitation of Quran and makes seeing them difficult.

For example, the line "Then we inherited the book to those who we chosen of our servants so of them...", the them is always assumed by almost all Muslims to refer to the chosen from God's servants as opposed to God's servants. And already, it seems odd, but take a step back, and recite the line right before that verse... "...and God with respect to his servants is aware seeing. Then we inherited the book to those who we chosen from our servants so of them...".

Do you see how the sorcery stops people from even paying attention to the preceding verse which contextualizes more emphasis on servants, which by natural flow of language, would make it very easy to see "so of them is who is oppressive to themselves...", that them refers back to servants.

Imam Reda (a) opened up with this verse and asked what people thought of it.  The evil ruler thought it would be Imam Reda (a) in tough spot because of the sorcery on his heart didn't allow to perceive how clear it is about the Ahlulbayt (a).  Imam Reda (a) however stood ground and said rational words. He chose his words in a way - that requires a little bit of reflection to really perceive.

The verse after that verse suggests in a way that the chosen ones are promised paradise. There is two ways to interpret it and in both cases it will refer to the chosen ones.

(1) The way Imams (a) interpreted and so in this case, the last mention is of the great superiority/grace over others of those who race ahead of all. In this case, the line would be an explanation that the chosen ones are obviously from those who race ahead of all in good deeds. So in this case, the line after is emphasizing on the chosen ones from his servants by reflection, because they are those who race ahead of all.

(2) The way the dark sorcery makes people assume that three categories are from the chosen servants and not servants, but the chosen ones from the servants of God. If this was the case, the "God has promised them..." would certainly remain context rules of language still about chosen servants of God. But the oppressive to themselves are then promised paradise which doesn't make sense.  

Instead of asking Imam Reda (a) what he meant, they instead started talking how the nation of Mohammad (s) is his family.

In the first case, it's obvious the racers ahead of all in good deeds is an explanation of who God chooses humans from and is in a way proof that God wants us to follow the best of humans and so upon him to manifest them in his religion.  But the latter case, it would be odd reading, because chosen would mean similar in how children of Israel were chosen for the knowledge and grace of God over other people but not superior in their own merits.  In this way, the oppressive to oneself, are not guaranteed paradise, but if "them" was all about God's chosen servants, it doesn't make sense to turn this off for "He has promised them....", and would be very odd way to speak.  That is why Imam Reda (a) argues that it can't be refer to the nation of Mohammad (s) but has to be about the family of Mohammad (s) since he gathered them all in paradise while the oppressive to themselves are not promised such but the opposite in context of Quran of what it meant to be oppressive towards yourself.

One thing that took me forever to unbind Satanic curses, is that the reward verses in Quran including 42:23, it means the reward disbelievers accuse Mohammad (s) of seeking if he is a fake Prophet are actually things required of God to establish in humans chosen by him.  So it's from their perspective God is saying yes I know Moses (a) maybe accused to wanting height and power in the land through sorcery in eyes of disbelievers, and you may accuse Mohammad (s) of wanting reputation, power, control, fame, moral landscaping, leaving a legacy,  monarchy in his offspring from Fatima (a), etc, but at the end that which you accuse of him if he is fake is needed of true chosen ones by God - it's way of God reminding humans and establishing a path to him through his chosen ones.   It's saying yes, greed, fame, power, reputation, monarchy, are all thing fake Prophets might be selfishly motivated to fabricate a lie against God and if he was an evil sorcerer to do dark magic and sway you, but at the same time, if he is a true Prophet then these things are upon God to establish in him and are the means towards God and because his chosen ones are required love, reputation, being exalted, revered, followed, obeyed, cherished, and yes God chooses out of wisdom to put succession of Authority in their offspring and family blood.  This is what Imam Reda (a) means by recognition is what is being asked in context of 42:23 and what is meant by it.

The Ahlulbayt (a) are vividly clear - but taking refuge in God and being aware of the dark sorcery of Iblis is needed. When this awareness happens, it's easy to remove the blinds of dark sorcery and see the place of the family of Mohammad (s) in Quran.
By the name of God, the (universally) Compassionate, The (extremely) Compassionate; for the unity of the Togetherness; Is their unity in the journey in the winter and summer. So let them Worship the Lord of this household. The one who fed them from hunger and gave them security from fear.

Strat 0z

Lol what are you on about?
May Allah Bless you and Have Mercy on you!


Lol what are you on about?

The Ahlulbayt of Mohammad (s) are clear in Quran vividly so, but what makes them appear to be ambiguous is sorcery of Iblis and his forces.

The language itself is clear - in Quran and Sunnah - what happens is there is blocking to normal language rules when it comes to Quran and severe disconnection of verses from one another take places.

Tahreef of words from their place doesn't take with most writings and speech of humans, it particularly takes place to the words of the messages of the Messengers and the holy books of Anbiya. 
By the name of God, the (universally) Compassionate, The (extremely) Compassionate; for the unity of the Togetherness; Is their unity in the journey in the winter and summer. So let them Worship the Lord of this household. The one who fed them from hunger and gave them security from fear.

Strat 0z

I really don't care what "sorcery" nonsense some shia guy on a forum says. I mean you guys literally believe in tahrif of Quran and that Abu Bakr (RA) rejected the "correct" Quran compiled by Ali (RA) and so Ali (RA) hid it instead of spreading it and then this Quran was passed down from one Imam after the other. Basically no one has seen this mysterious Quran. Now the real Quran with "correct order" is with the 12th Imam some hidden guy who is supposed to be leader but not leading anyone or guiding anyone with the "correct" Quran for 1200 years.
May Allah Bless you and Have Mercy on you!


If it was true what you said about Shiites, still the Quran shows God doesn't place his religion in the trust of a volatile people who can be astray or guided but we can't know but with proofs from God, rather in his rope which is a book from him and the leaders appointed by him.

« Last Edit: October 13, 2020, 06:03:29 PM by Soccer »
By the name of God, the (universally) Compassionate, The (extremely) Compassionate; for the unity of the Togetherness; Is their unity in the journey in the winter and summer. So let them Worship the Lord of this household. The one who fed them from hunger and gave them security from fear.


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