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Highlight Video of Allahyari Evading the Debate

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Farid


Abu Muhammad

Re: Highlight Video of Allahyari Evading the Debate
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2017, 05:43:24 PM »
That's what become of someone when taqqiyyah is considered 9/10 of religion and believe in the reward of practicing the 'lie'. He has no consience at all, really. Lying as bright as the sun in midday.

Such a disgrace to Shi'ism…

ZulFiqar

Re: Highlight Video of Allahyari Evading the Debate
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2017, 05:56:38 PM »
Since he admits the Quraan al Karim is Munharif is there any point in debating with him further? As far as ordinary Muslims are concerned he's already repudiated. It would be like debating a Mormon who readily confesses his belief in polytheism and acknowledges the real existence of multiple gods. What more is to be said? These people aren't debated when they have already stripped off their clothes and exposed their nakedness.

Rationalist

Re: Highlight Video of Allahyari Evading the Debate
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2017, 02:04:44 AM »
For the 12er Shia if you reject the waliyah of any of the 12 you are not momin. However, if you reject the completeness of the Quran you can still be a momin as long as you believe in the waliyah of 12.

MuslimAnswers

Re: Highlight Video of Allahyari Evading the Debate
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2017, 12:48:07 PM »
That's what become of someone when taqqiyyah is considered 9/10 of religion and believe in the reward of practicing the 'lie'. He has no consience at all, really. Lying as bright as the sun in midday.

Such a disgrace to Shi'ism…

It would seem that Twelvers always have some tricks on the back-burner.

In this case, it appears that if the "international community" starts to vehemently slander the Quran, the Twelvers may in fact take the Tahreef belief off the back-burner and put it in the limelight as a way to disassociate themselves from Sunnis in the eyes of the larger Non-Muslim community; it would make Shias seem not only separate from Sunnis in an obvious way, but also intellectual and enlightened to our enemies. Those who don't believe this can happen can take a look at the "Imam Tawhidi" fiasco currently unfolding in our day and age.

Hadrami

Re: Highlight Video of Allahyari Evading the Debate
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2017, 01:24:44 PM »
It would seem that Twelvers always have some tricks on the back-burner.

In this case, it appears that if the "international community" starts to vehemently slander the Quran, the Twelvers may in fact take the Tahreef belief off the back-burner and put it in the limelight as a way to disassociate themselves from Sunnis in the eyes of the larger Non-Muslim community; it would make Shias seem not only separate from Sunnis in an obvious way, but also intellectual and enlightened to our enemies. Those who don't believe this can happen can take a look at the "Imam Tawhidi" fiasco currently unfolding in our day and age.
Imam Shirki was "i love sunni" type. What changed him is when he was exposed cursing sahaba, the sunni who were close to him then abandoned him. His "sunni shia unity" doesnt work anymore, hence it is no use for him to keep wearing the taqiyya mask as his reputation among the fooled sunni is ruined

 

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