Even if you weaken that one hadith, we Shi'a have others hadiths proving Imam Ali (as) used Al-Ghadir as proof for his khilafa.
Did Imam Ali (ra) also mention in those narrations that the Prophet (saw) offered it first to Abbas (ra)? Are those hadiths also contradictory to what happened at Ghadeer? Here is Shaykh Mufid narrating what happened after the Incident of Pen and Paper?
When they (the people) had left (the room), he (the Prophet) said: “Send back to me my brother (Ali) and my uncle (Abbas).” They sent for someone to call them and he brought them. When he had them sitting close, he (the Prophet) said: “
Uncle of the Apostle of Allah, will you accept my testamentary bequest (wasi), fulfill my promise, and carry out my religion?”
“Apostle of Allah, your uncle is an old man with the responsibilities of a large family,” answered Al-Abbas. “You vie with the wind in liberality and generosity. You have made promises which your uncle could never fulfill.” Then he (the Prophet) turned to Ali ibn Abi Talib, and said: “Brother, will you accept my testamentary bequest (wasi), fulfill my promises, carry out my religion on my behalf and look after the affairs of my family after me?” “Yes, Apostle of Allah,” he (Ali) replied. (Kitab Al-Irshad, by Shaykh Mufid, p.131)
Confused? The Incident of Pen and Paper happened well after the announcement at Ghadeer Khum. Why, then, did the Prophet (saw) offer Imamah to Abbas (ra) [according to Shaykh Mufid] when it was already announced for Imam Ali (ra)?
I don't complain about takfir, I think those who latch onto it are doing it for political reasons.
And you are doing it for noble reasons? You cannot even prove our kufr, lol.
Salat is mentioned and Wilaya is also mentioned in our opinion. But both require tafsir to explain what they are.
Erroneous claim! Salat is mentioned whereas Wilaya is not. The foundation of salat (in the Qur'an) does not require tafseer. The Qur'an clearly establishes its presence, existence and essence in Islam; it has been mentioned about 700 times in the Qur'an.
If you gave someone the Holy Qur'an and he was alone in an island, will he know how to pray?
I am not sure if Shias like to play innocent or the concept is too difficult (for them) to grasp. Qur'an establishes salah and we learn the method of praying from the Sunnah. As for Wilaya, there is nothing in the Qur'an to even remotely hint it.
It is not amongst your articles of faith but it warrants takfir?
I have already clarified myself when it comes to the Uncreated Creator's Speech being Uncreated and that whole discussion was to silence the Mu'tazilites.
Insha Allah, this is proof;
http://www.ajurry.com/vb/showthread.php?t=10797
It's called شرط القوة "Shart Al-Quwwa".
Why are you reducing the entire paradigm of Imamah to leadership in war situations? Is it because a huge chunk of your argument depends on "proving" others ran away from battles? An Imam is a guide; he leads from the front (not by hiding somewhere) in all aspects of life, not just war.
The Imam is in hiding out of fear for his life so I say this to Shias. It is a widely accepted belief, among Shias, that Imams (ra) know their Hour of Death. As a Shia, you will have to agree with me that the 12th Imam is alive, at the moment. Knowing his hour of death, I am sure the Imam could have put one and one together to realize that death would not afflict him from the moment he went into occultation until February 19, 2018 (and beyond).
Wouldn't it have been better for him to be around, correct us, guide us and then go into hiding a day before his hour of death?
What did Al-Kulayni (ra) say?
Al-Kafi has chapters dedicated to the supernatural powers of the Imams (ra).
The reason the hadith of the stone is shaky is because some say the matn is absurd, and Allah (swt) does not do absurd things.
Absurd according to you! I have already mentioned how this was the same Children of Israel that renounced Jesus (asws) despite the latter raising the dead, curing the blind and the lepers, etc. Nothing short of seeing Musa (asws) would have silenced them.
I am not going to get into a discussion on thaqalayn, but the fact that the family of the Prophet (saww) is amongst the favoured is clear in Bukhari;
{إِنَّ اللَّهَ اصْطَفَى آدَمَ وَنُوحًا وَآلَ إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَآلَ عِمْرَانَ عَلَى الْعَالَمِينَ} إِلَى قَوْلِهِ: {يَرْزُقُ مَنْ يَشَاءُ بِغَيْرِ حِسَابٍ}. قَالَ ابْنُ عَبَّاسٍ وَآلُ عِمْرَانَ الْمُؤْمِنُونَ مِنْ آلِ إِبْرَاهِيمَ، وَآلِ عِمْرَانَ، وَآلِ يَاسِينَ، وَآلِ مُحَمَّدٍ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ يَقُولُ: {إِنَّ أَوْلَى النَّاسِ بِإِبْرَاهِيمَ لَلَّذِينَ اتَّبَعُوهُ} وَهُمُ الْمُؤْمِنُونَ، وَيُقَالُ آلُ يَعْقُوبَ، أَهْلُ يَعْقُوبَ. فَإِذَا صَغَّرُوا {آلَ} ثُمَّ رَدُّوهُ إِلَى الأَصْلِ قَالُوا أُهَيْلٌ
The narration speaks of Two Weighty Things, the Qur'an and Ahlul Bayt (ra). Since the Qur'an comes first, let us consult it for the meaning of Ahlul Bayt (ra). The word "Ahlul Bayt" occurs three times in the Qur'an, if I'm not mistaken. Once in relation to Ibrahim (asws) when Sara (asws) is referred to as his Ahlul Bayt; then in relation to Musa (asws) when his wife is referred to as his "ahl". And then in verse 33:33.
In each one of those occurrences, it is in relation to a man (or a prophet) and his wife or wives. On what basis do you ostracize the wives (ra) of the Prophet (saw)?
What do you mean?
I cannot elaborate any more on this; less than 2% of Al-Kafi is comprised of authentic Prophetic narrations. If it is too hard to grasp, I apologize. I cannot help you if you cannot see the elephant in the room.
When the Imams (as) narrate it is like the Prophet (saww) is talking bro, because we say all their knowledge is inherited from him. He gave it to Ali (as), Ali (as) gave it to Hasan (as), and so on.
No doubt you say that but you say a lot of things almost none of which stands scrutiny. And most of them are refuted by the same sources you rely on.