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Knowing God.
« on: September 20, 2017, 04:26:14 AM »
All attributes go astray regarding you, your names fall shattering before reaching their origin, and there is no path to knowing you without acknowledging there is no way to truly know you! A drop in the ocean would be an overstatement of what we are to you yet you value and are grateful for all good of your creation. You hate evil and are angered by it, yet forbear before vengeance, are patient in that regard, till we feel safe from your wrath, and you only implement justice to the evil of those who equate in worship others, in extreme grief and tears as expressed "O grieving anguish over my servants, there doesn't come to them a Messenger except regarding him would mock" (Suratal Yaseen). And were it not that there is no path of value but in searching for you, glorifying you, and valuing you above all else through your name, you would not have punished those who turn away from you. But dark indeed are the avenues that lead away from you and evil are those who oppose the door you have opened and abandon the leaders who guide by your command and the authority that is your light, face, and name. Cursed be who recites your book and seeks to impose his view on it as opposed to being guided by it and learning from it and seeking the truth by it and reflecting on its decisive signs and clear bright proofs.
Love of the family of Yaseen is the light of the heavens and the earth.

Farid

Re: Knowing God.
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2017, 04:29:20 AM »
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Cursed be who recites your book and seeks to impose his view on it

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Re: Knowing God.
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2017, 04:37:29 AM »
"And it doesn't increase the unjust but in loss".
Love of the family of Yaseen is the light of the heavens and the earth.

Hani

Re: Knowing God.
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2017, 11:37:09 PM »
"And it doesn't increase the unjust but in loss".

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عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

Hadrami

Re: Knowing God.
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2017, 12:04:31 PM »
😂😂😂 the crazy monkey like chest beating zombie got another dot treatment

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Re: Knowing God.
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2017, 05:26:07 PM »
I hate Sunnism with a passion because it argued by the Jibt (sorcery) and Taghut (oppressive idol) to assert Ulil-Amr (possessors of the Authority) are that whether they meant Kings or Scholars or governors, and uses circular reference to falsehood and ignores Quranic context of the verses before and after and other Surahs to who Ulil-Amr are which negates it from all those but who God has chosen, and their arguments negates the only authority Quran legitimizes out of the falsehood of the Jibt and Taghut. I hate it more than any ideology in the world because they have the Quran but ignore it and twist it. "therefore if you dispute in a thing refer it to God and the Messenger" was to emphasize the purpose of God telling us to obey Ulil-Amr saying you can now make sure to refer all disputes properly back to Quran and Sunna through Ahlulbayt (as) who will give us intructions to society on how to judge and make sure what they teach is from Quran and Sunnah which Shiites don't follow either now but refer to Taqleed which is forbidden in Quran and Sunnah, not as an excuse to replace their authority with that of Jibt and Taghut, not an excuse to ignore the verses before and what they state regarding authority leading up to it and not to ignore the verses after, and to ignore what the whole Quran has emphasized on. Every revelation taught to obey God's chosen ones, manifested in groups of the chosen families, and delegated his mastery and authority to proofs and reminders who were twelve after the founding Captain, and it always the same SHIT from Satan and his forces and they infiltrate and argue by the same lame falsehood, you expect this time around to be different as Quran has used most of its text to refute these false arguments, but they still are used.
Love of the family of Yaseen is the light of the heavens and the earth.

GreatChineseFall

Re: Knowing God.
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2017, 07:33:27 PM »
uses circular reference to falsehood and ignores Quranic context of the verses before and after and other Surahs
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Re: Knowing God.
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2017, 02:21:50 AM »
Expecting guidance from other then the door God has opened and boarding a ship not steered by the name of God and following a path without clear proofs and relying on other then the balance brought down for stability and judging by other the light and resorting to settle disputes other then from clear indications of the truth from a book from God and a Messenger's clarification of it and believing in authority other then God's mastery and preferring desire over that of guidance from God and thinking God would not help and guide the way and determining justice without sight from God and insights through reflection and believing in leaders other then those God has appointed and chasing what will disappear and had no reality to begin with and running away from God's lion kings and paying attention to other then God's stars in the darkness and centering around other then the bright sun of God and journeying to other than the face of God and following other then what God has revealed and believing in the falsehood despite the truth being connected to us and having a resolve for other then the navigators to the just city and seeking the knowledge of the soul from other then the reminder and it's designated family and cutting of God's rope and holding on to other than his handhold is the definition of ignorance of Goodness and confusion and being immersed in clouds of darkness and mixing dirty water with the pure streams.
Love of the family of Yaseen is the light of the heavens and the earth.

Hadrami

Re: Knowing God.
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2017, 07:43:30 AM »
what an excellent guide. A useless fictional majoosi "captain" which zombie knuckleheads said ran into a hole 1000+yrs ago, because he was scared for his life while his followers wealth have been stolen by tyrehead cartel. What a bunch of idiot pagan. Catholic church probably wish they have followers as dumb as you lot

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Re: Knowing God.
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2017, 09:58:03 PM »
There is a dark sinister force that always corrupts religion - and people are too afraid to look at it in its dark evil heart. It is always the case the worst of humans end up being regarded as pure wise leaders to be relied on for religion and the propaganda is such that the truthful are regarded as fabricators and the liars are taken as reliable authorities regarding it. Truth is to be known through reasoning, Quran is to be understood through reflecting over its verses along with the Sunnah that is its explanation, and when you know the truth, then find its people. Don't look for people that are praised to find the truth just because they are praised by the masses - no that should be a serious clue that the magic of the dark forces WANT people to follow that person. As for the family of the reminder who have proof regarding their purity from God and do hold authority, they are asked, because they clarify through reasoning and make humanity reflect on truths and their words are light. That is why they should be the focus of attention - even with all the fabrications surrounding them - their is enough hadiths that manifest and make us reflect enough to show the way and the proper religion. As for the false leaders who wish that people look towards them and listen to them as if they are authoritative representatives of the religion, God always warns that Satan always has a clutch on that place and position and inspires his friends to hide the truth, and as for those weak minded who wish to be deceived, it is they who follow them. We aren't to pick to our leaders and call them righteous by our desires, the path to God is chosen by him, the leaders who guide by God's command are chosen by him. #Killuminati
Love of the family of Yaseen is the light of the heavens and the earth.

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Re: Knowing God.
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2017, 07:42:44 PM »
The chosen ones are the Signs of God, the ways of God, the means towards God, the Captains of the Ships that God wants us to board, the reciters by which we are to recite Quran mainly when it says to recite by his name, and they are the name of God by which that book which we don't know but is kept safe in a safeguarded tablet becomes a guidance and it's signs become manifest, and they are the leaders who guide by God's command, the family of the reminder, the near kin of the Messenger, the household of revelation, the chosen submitters who Abraham prayed hearts would incline to, the successors of lantern giving light, the inheritors of the bright sun, the covenant of the Moon Mountain (Mount Sinai), the twelve ways who are all the way after the Mohammad who guide by the truth and by it they establish justice, the beautiful names which God wishes us to call him by, and the Signs of God, the Witnesses of the people of their time, the proofs of God which are the Guides of their time, the true leaders, the Kings and Ministers on behalf of God.
Love of the family of Yaseen is the light of the heavens and the earth.

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Re: Knowing God.
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2017, 04:06:00 PM »
The Guide in Quran is said to not to be guardian or custodian regarding disbelievers, that is God could have made it that the Guide or Mohammad during his time protects everyone and keeps them safe from misguidance, but it's been destined, one must come to the door of God humbly, one must enter the fortress of God humbly, and that guidance is to be followed with will but humble faith, Satan and his forces, on the other hand, try to intrude in every step and offer to protect you, and offer delusionary grandeur, but Quran says "O you who believe, take care of yourselves" and says in that regard the one who misguides cannot misguide them if they do so. And indeed there is no Guide for who God who misguides despite from another angle, there is a Guide for every people. The witness does call people to God even when they run away, but despite his ability to do so, he doesn't use his power and force faith on to people, he doesn't force them to submit. He waits us to come to him and calls us to God while the dark forces offer to teach us magic and protect us by it, their promises are delusionary and lies, while God's chosen ones are a barrier against dark forces, and they are God's Name which is the cure out of the misguided confusion, and they are the navigators to the justice world people must come to and we are to be part of God's plan through seeking a means to him and by that means and connection, striving in his way and fulfilling the desire of God's appointed King on earth. And indeed the help of God is promised through the Master and Helper appointed by God, but those who hate the truth of God's light will have no helper in this world and the next. Everyone can talk deep none-sense about the unseen from a far place, but who will you turn to and trust other than the family of the reminder and God's chosen Navigators and appointed Leaders who are meant to lead humanity while others leadership and authority is not meant for them to take with respect to religion.
Love of the family of Yaseen is the light of the heavens and the earth.

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Re: Knowing God.
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2017, 04:42:33 AM »
Every Surah including Suratal Ikhlas is about the name of God. And the name of God is taught to be a leader among the people, a witness from them, and every human will be called with their leader, witness, and driver. And that leader is a human and only human. And it's a path. And that path is a course of those who guide by the truth and establish by it justice. And they always are split in twelve ways, linking back and related to their rooting founding Captain and the one who took a covenant with people who pledged to listen and obey God regarding them, and emphasized that they are his near kin, his family. And this manifest proof from God who recites people the signs of God, didn't command them ought by that but to worship God sincerely, and established the connection (salah) and give that which purifies (charity) and that being the risen up religion. If there was a means other than the path of God, and if the path of God can be followed by other than light brought down and revealed by God, and the light can be known through other then his books, and if there is a number that is emphasized regarding succession other then Twelve, and the covenant of the mount Mountain, the Green Tree, and Captains and Navigators to justice and truth who see the light as is, if people can find alternative to twelve emphasized on, and that these men are found in other then houses God has permitted to be heightened and is named remembered therein, mainly the chosen families, the likes of the house of Abraham, and that we are to hear revelation from other then those who are meant to be our ears and eyes we rely on in the darkness, but where will we go to other then his door? And how will we know them through other than his scriptures and revelations? And how can we unravel a book of the boundless ocean of knowledge, but with humility that the guardians entrusted to interpret know it better, and know how to teach us and help us understand and reflect. Will we mix with the pure springs from God people claiming to represent them and have their authority with no proof, and mix our clean untainted water with their tainted egos and calls to their tainted idols?
Love of the family of Yaseen is the light of the heavens and the earth.

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Re: Knowing God.
« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2017, 06:34:05 PM »
One of the themes in Quran, if Mohammad was in doubt or did not know for the sake of argument, what would God command him to do. Say he was not a Prophet and was going insane, and say he had magic powers by which he did miralces but Gabreil was a demon confusing him and granting him such power. A series verses that interpret each other: "And ask the Messengers sent before you: Did he ever command to worship other than God", and also said "We did not send before you except men who we revealed to therefore ask the family of the reminder if you do not know" (this is a command with a plural you, but Mohammad was addressed singularly in the first half of the verse) and another says "if you were in doubt in what we have revealed to you than ask those given the book before you" while this didn't refer to the people of book who were opposing him, and said "and a witness from children of Israel testifies to it", if you put it all together, you will see it means say you were in doubt, does it change the arguments in Quran? Still, humanity would be required to search the family of the reminder of the time, and those truly given the book in the full sense of the word. You would have to seek a family of a reminder, so if Mohammad was ignorant, what would he do? The same thing we are all required to do. Seek a reminder and try to understand it through it's designated family who are really the true receivers of the book "Or do they have a clear authority. So bring your book if you are truthful". In this sense, Quran there is no doubt in it a guidance, regardless if Mohammad was true or not, the only thing is if there is a complete clarification, and the more you think about Quran is relying on tautology to prove...it never expects you to take what it says simply because it says so but wants you to see the truth in it and signs of God through it and the wisdom established by it.
Love of the family of Yaseen is the light of the heavens and the earth.

 

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