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Title: Sign of end of time in Shia hadith
Post by: scusemyenglish on April 28, 2016, 11:01:22 PM
Salam Aylikoum.

Someone know if shia have sign of the end of time in their text?

I have heard Jaafar sadik (ra) knew botanique and science etc... it's true?

They have books about the futur like us?

Because if they have nothing it would be strange for their aqueeda about twelvers that Abou Hourayra a poor man from yemen knew the future better than infaillibles imans who "know the past and the future"...

Also acording to some scholars (see munajid islam qa) Abou Hourayra knew, like Houdeyfa el Yemen, the name of hypocrites muslims... (we have lot of proof about that)

Barak'Allah Ou fikoum.
Title: Re: Sign of end of time in Shia hadith
Post by: scusemyenglish on April 30, 2016, 12:39:48 AM
I have find that in shiashat. They say it's scientifical

A man asked Imam Ali (a.s.) in Masjid-e-Kufa, "What is the distance between me and (pointing towards the sun) the sun".

It is worth mentioning here about the complexity of this question.

This man was an Arab. And in the Arabic language the numbers or count is limited upto one thousand (1000). The count in arabic does not exceed 1000. The answer to the question this man asked dealt in millions (distance).

It was like a challenge to Imam Ali (a.s.) to answer him in a convincing manner without confusing him.

Imam Ali (a.s.) answered : "If an Arab horse starts running from here and continues running for 500 years, then he (horse) will reach the sun."

The man was convinced and walked away. But it is for us now to ponder on what Imam Ali (a.s.) said. This one sentence of Imam Ali (a.s.) shows and proves the genius that Imam Ali (a.s.) was.

Imam Ali (a.s.) said "If an Arab horse...", the average speed of an arab horse is 22 mph (miles per hour).

If a horse runs the full day (24 hours) it will cover approximately 520 miles. This gives us the distance the horse will cover in 24 hrs (one day).

To calculate the distance covered by the horse in one month we multiply it 520 by 29.5 (Taking an average of the number of months in arab callender. Assuming that 6 months are of 29 days and 6 months are of 30 days.). It gives us something around 15,500. The horse will cover 15,500 miles in one month (30 days).

To get the distance that he will travel in one year we multiply it by 12. Since there are 12 months in a year. It gives you 1,86000. Then multiply 1,86000 by 500 as the horse should run for 500 years. It gives you 93,400,000 miles.

Now if you ask an astronomer about the distance of sun from the earth he will tell you that the distance is never constant. The orbit of the earth is oval in shape. Sometimes it comes nearer to the sun and on occasions it distances itself from the sun. When the earth is closest to the sun its distance is 91,000000 miles and the distance when it is farthest from the sun is 94,800000 miles. When you take an average on these two distances it comes around 930,000 miles.

Subhanallah. Peace Be Upon You, oh Abal Hasanein.

Imam Ali (a.s.) 1400 years back told us about the distance of the earth from the sun.
Title: Re: Sign of end of time in Shia hadith
Post by: Farid on April 30, 2016, 06:45:50 AM
You can find this hadith in Sunan Al Tirmithi from Abi Sa'eed Al Khudri.

It seems to be weak.

I believe that Shias stole it as they usually steal Sunni hadiths and attribute them to Ahlulbayt.
Title: Re: Sign of end of time in Shia hadith
Post by: Rationalist on April 30, 2016, 07:13:07 AM
They have ahadith where they believe the Abbasids will return to power.
Title: Re: Sign of end of time in Shia hadith
Post by: scusemyenglish on April 30, 2016, 09:57:12 AM
You can find this hadith in Sunan Al Tirmithi from Abi Sa'eed Al Khudri.

It seems to be weak.

I believe that Shias stole it as they usually steal Sunni hadiths and attribute them to Ahlulbayt.

Yes it's also that I think esppecially since I have find this clip when they used a adith from Abou Hourayra (but they don't say his name!) for say " the fire in hijaz is for the war against Houthy"  :-X




I think they want to stole our hadith with the help of the stupid Imran Hossein(especially from Abou Hourayra , Abou Hourayra = more of 1/4 of hadith about the end of time. and it's very precisly because of his great memory ) about the end of time after stole our hadith for their basics propagand.


PS/ the fire in hijaz is linked with volcanic irruption in 1200 acording to classics scolars of Ahlou lsounna.