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Sunni-Shia Debate: Verse of Ulil-Amr 4:59 | Link vs Hamid

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Hamid ibn Askar

Re: Sunni-Shia Debate: Verse of Ulil-Amr 4:59 | Link vs Hamid
« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2017, 12:00:17 PM »
Salam

Its clear for every sane person to see that you failed proving to us why this ayah applies to your 12 imams.
The implications of your argument (had it been true) is that the muslim ummah was a complete farce and failure. It was a farce because it was hijacked by those whom the ayah wasn't referring to and it was a failure because those whom authority was given to (12 imams) were not given their rights and only 2 of them ruled anything!.

I hope for any further debates or discussions you use less of your logic and more of facts.

Salam.

Link

Re: Sunni-Shia Debate: Verse of Ulil-Amr 4:59 | Link vs Hamid
« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2017, 02:16:28 PM »
Since I am posting anyways, might as well continue.

My proposition is that "Amr" and "Mulk" has been emphasized throughout Quran.  It's opposite and negative, the Taghut has also been explained and emphasized in Quran.

What is the Taghut according to you Hamid ibn Askar, and what is the relationship and flow of necessity of disbelieving it as mentioned before verse 4:59 and after?  How does reminding of the family of Abraham negate it?
Love of the family of Yaseen is the light of the heavens and the earth.

 

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