Al-Kulayni and Tahreef

[Hani]

Read it here:
Al-Kulayni and Tahreef

[Farid]

I find the quote by Abdul Hussain to be very interesting. I have no doubt in my mind that there is not a single Shia apologist alive today that would say that. This goes to show that their sect has evolved due to the onslaught of Sunni arguments, and it was only by adopting the Usooli methodology that they were able to have some sort of damage control.

Again, I am talking about Shia apologists and not all Shia scholars.

[scusemyenglish]

sorry for the off topic but those who have "preserved " the coran. (Hasim , Wafs etc...) how we know they was from ahlou lhadith?

I say that because I have heard Yassir Habib "they was shias".

[Hani]

Check articles section on our site for answer. We have an article on chains of coran

[al-kulayni]

sorry for the off topic but those who have "preserved " the coran. (Hasim , Wafs etc...) how we know they was from ahlou lhadith?

I say that because I have heard Yassir Habib "they was shias".

Look at this article : http://twelvershia.net/2013/12/04/quran-has-a-shia-chain-of-transmission/

[scusemyenglish]

https://vimeo.com/103518959

Very good.

[scusemyenglish]

Saha I am reading the article.


Sorry for my lack of knowledge but

" `Aami " Means sunni?

and why it's written

[He was Thiqah in Hadith, they differed about his Hadith from Zirr and abu Wa’il, and he was a `Uthmani.]

As you can see the man is a `Uthmani, and the scholars describe a man of being `Uthmani when he is a lover of `Uthman ibn `Affan (ra) and sometimes `Uthmanis hold grudges against `Ali ibn abi Talib (ra).

[scusemyenglish]

Haaaaa it's the shia scolars who said" Asim was an othmani"?

 if it's that it show that My lack of knowledge in English play with me  ;  =  )

[scusemyenglish]

Who is " Humran b. A`yun "?

Quoted here

Also, they do have sunni chains, seriously. I would suggest you open up al-Jazaris al-Nashr fee Qira’aat al-`Ashr and look up all the different Turuq for each of the different Qira’aat. Warsh alone has like 84 – not Shi’i at all, as far as I know. And it should be noted that these “Shi’a” in these chains and different Qiraa’aat cannot be proven to be Imami – as in believed in divine Imamah and `isma of those Imams etc etc. When classical Sunni literature just uses the word “Shi`ah” or “`Alawiy” by itself, it usually indicates what we’d call Zaydis or proto-Sunnis that were just politically Shi`ah or the like. Imami is shown more so when they use the word rafidhi or a “ghali” Shi`ah – someone with “extreme” Shi’ism. The only Rafidhi I know in the Qiraa’aat chains is Humran b. A`yun [ra], and they admit this and are okay with it cause transmitting Qur’an and transmitting hadith is different for them.

[scusemyenglish]

Humran b. A`yun Is in our chain or in their potential chain?