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Sunni Shia Discussion Forum => Quran-Tafseer => Topic started by: Rationalist on September 04, 2018, 03:26:59 AM

Title: Being Raised with your Imams on Day of Judgement.
Post by: Rationalist on September 04, 2018, 03:26:59 AM

  One day We shall call together all human beings with their (respective) Imams: those who are given their record in their right hand will read it (with pleasure), and they will not be dealt with unjustly in the least. (17:71)


So I looked what Agha Pooya wrote, and although he prefers the 12er Shia interpretation he was open to other interpretations of this verse.

Aqa Mahdi Puya says:

Commentators have variously interpreted the word imam as under:

(i) Scripture.

(ii) Prophet.

(iii) Leaders in every age.

(iv) Record of deeds.

(v)   Mother.



To me number 4 makes the most sense. We are all Muslims, so its our deeds which will decide where we belong. Of course that is after Allah's mercy.

Title: Re: Being Raised with your Imams on Day of Judgement.
Post by: Soccer on March 10, 2020, 08:27:16 AM

A book can be a leader like the Torah and Quran are, but how was the book of your own deeds your Leader?

Title: Re: Being Raised with your Imams on Day of Judgement.
Post by: Soccer on March 12, 2020, 10:03:22 PM

While we might be called with Quran or Torah or whatever, the truth is not all humans always had among them a divine book. But the Quran says there will be a witness from every people from among themselves testifying against them and says the Messengers write down people deeds.

What doesn't help understanding Quran is divorcing all verses from one anther. Another verse talks about every soul coming with a driver and a witness. These are not Angels like Sunnis make out to be per Quran, but the witness and leader and driver and captain is the spirit from God by which he helps believers by and the light that is among the humans by which to get guided by and make us of.

The problem with humans is they talk praise of the light but fail to recognize those who God channels it through. So every religion praises the light (spiritual guidance) and the source of it (God) but then don't care too much who represents it nor seek clear proof regarding that.

They take it lightly by either following leaders with no proof that they are channeling that light or go to stubborn against it and deny it. The middle ground is to seek proof but also not let doubt stop you from seeing what is clear.

The first room about doubting is know when to stop doubting.

This verse a long with the many witnesses verse show the witness from is the leader among humans to be returned to.