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Sunni Shia Discussion Forum => Quran-Tafseer => Topic started by: Furkan on March 23, 2015, 12:02:32 AM

Title: Fatal Flaw in the basis of Twelver Shiaism
Post by: Furkan on March 23, 2015, 12:02:32 AM
This article definetely hit some vital organs of Shiism:

https://www.academia.edu/11332360/_Draft_Article_Fatal_Flaw_in_the_basis_of_Twelver_Shiaism

It's about Shiism and Quran, I recommend everyone to read it!
Title: Re: Fatal Flaw in the basis of Twelver Shiaism
Post by: MuslimK on March 23, 2015, 12:46:55 AM
The author is a member of this forum. Masha'Allah.

More from him (may Allah reward him):
http://muslimanswers.net/for-deviant-groups/
Title: Re: Fatal Flaw in the basis of Twelver Shiaism
Post by: Optimus Prime on March 23, 2015, 01:42:07 AM
The author is a member of this forum. Masha'Allah.

More from him (may Allah reward him):
http://muslimanswers.net/for-deviant-groups/

Which, user?
Title: Re: Fatal Flaw in the basis of Twelver Shiaism
Post by: Furkan on March 23, 2015, 01:42:27 AM
Is it Husayn?
Title: Re: Fatal Flaw in the basis of Twelver Shiaism
Post by: Husayn on March 23, 2015, 02:09:33 AM
No - this is way too properly referenced to be me   ;D
Title: Re: Fatal Flaw in the basis of Twelver Shiaism
Post by: Furkan on March 23, 2015, 02:20:50 AM
Lol, who then hahaha. I know the author's facebook though :p
Title: Re: Fatal Flaw in the basis of Twelver Shiaism
Post by: MuslimAnswers on March 23, 2015, 05:14:46 AM
Salam Alaykum,

This is basically from my side: However, what I need are more similar references if they do exist, in order to counter the potential claim of taking outlier opinions of Shia scholars and presenting them as the norm.
Title: Re: Fatal Flaw in the basis of Twelver Shiaism
Post by: Hadrami on March 23, 2015, 06:14:09 AM
Shia imamah is so convincing that it even provides proof to disprove itself :)
Title: Re: Fatal Flaw in the basis of Twelver Shiaism
Post by: Furkan on March 23, 2015, 01:05:15 PM
Salam Alaykum,

This is basically from my side: However, what I need are more similar references if they do exist, in order to counter the potential claim of taking outlier opinions of Shia scholars and presenting them as the norm.

Focussing on mutah? It is established on tawatur level in Shia hadith, rejecting it results in disbelief according to shiism. So pointing out the errors in this concept will do a huge damage.
Title: Re: Fatal Flaw in the basis of Twelver Shiaism
Post by: MuslimAnswers on March 28, 2015, 06:10:05 PM
^

Wa Salam,

Not so sure about inserting the position of Mutah and how it compares with regards to this matter of the Qur'an. As I said, it is best to find more similar quotes by scholars of Shiaism [I feel Ahaadeeth are not enough, because there are rules due to which the apparent meaning of the Hadeeth may be diluted or rejected, and these are present amongst us Sunnis as well, but if the scholarly principle is shown that there is no belief-based obligation to hold on to the indubitability of the Quran in our hands, then this is a higher level of research and argumentation].