Is talking to dead Guides polytheism?

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Is talking to dead Guides polytheism?
« on: May 21, 2021, 03:02:50 PM »

This is a subject, that has become a huge dispute among Muslims.

The Messengers as mediums between God and his servants

And We did not send any Messenger but that he should be obeyed by Allah's permission; and had they, when they were oppressive to themselves, come to you and asked forgiveness of Allah and the Messenger had (also) asked forgiveness for them, they would have found Allah Oft-returning (to mercy), Merciful.

And of the dwellers of the desert are those who believe in Allah and the latter day and take what they spend to be (means of) the nearness of Allah and the Messenger's prayers; surely it shall be means of nearness for them; Allah will make them enter into His mercy; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

They said: O our father! ask forgiveness of our faults for us, surely we were sinners.

The dispute about dead

As such there is no dispute that asking intercession of the Prophet while he is alive, was not Shirk (worshiping him).

There is however a claim, that talking to him while dead, is du'a (prayer) and is worshiping him.

Proof in undisputable Sunnah

In Salah, we say "peace be upon you Prophet" directly to him. Now during his life time, this line in prayer (the five daily ones) was done by Muslims near him and far away from him.

If the notion of him being absent and should not be giving all hearing status is the problem, then why did Muslims address him in Salah when far away, and why did he not change this near the end of his life, if we weren't meant to communicate to him after his death?

Further proof in Quran

And ask those of Our Messengers whom We sent before you: Did We ever appoint gods to be worshipped besides the (Ultimately) Compassionate?

If talking to dead Messengers was Shirk, this verse would not make sense, whether Mohammad (s) asks them this sincerely or is being told to ask them this rhetorically, doesn't make a difference.

There also a series of verses that show if Mohammad (s) was ignorant or was in doubt, to seek the Ahlulbayt appointed by God before him, that is the family of the reminder, the Messengers sent before, those given the book before him, and this would be in a way seeking guidance from dead guides, but it's not Shirk, it's actually an appeal from God, that the family of the reminder is open for guidance whether they are alive or dead, just as the family of Moses (a) and Aaron (a) would have guided if Mohammad (s) was ignorant, the Ahlulbayt of Mohammad (s) are guides and a way to know the truth about everything in God's religion, whether they are physically here or not.

Trait of hypocrites

In the chapter the hypocrites, it is revealed a sign of hypocrisy is being arrogant towards the position of intercession of the Messenger:

And when it is said to them: Come, the Messenger of Allah will ask forgiveness for you, they turn back their heads and you may see them turning away while they are arrogant.

Two other traits are mentioned, they plot against believers with the disbelievers and the other trait is they are ignorant of spiritual truths like honor belonging to God, Messenger and believers and the unity they have in that sense of honor, and the treasures of earth and heavens belongs to God.

We see the Wahabi movement of Saudi Arabia has all three characteristics of hypocrisy mentioned in this chapter.

(1) They are arrogant towards using the Messenger as a interceder using the excuse he is dead despite the proofs that communication to him has not been cut off.
(2) They are ignorant of spiritual side of Islam and the unity of God's light with the Messengers and believers gaining light from the Messengers, they are so ignorant, they call it Shirk as well.
(3) They work tirelessly against the believers and are willing to use the diabolic forces and do deals with them to work against believers and diminish their cause.
By the name of God, the (universally) Compassionate, The (extremely) Compassionate; for the unity of the Togetherness; Is their unity in the journey in the winter and summer. So let them Worship the Lord of this household. The one who fed them from hunger and gave them security from fear.


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