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There seems to have been a call by Sistani's representative for the militias to be brought under Iraqi state control:

http://www.rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/151220171

It would remain to be seen if this would actually take place and bring about effective change given the variegated aims of the militias.
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Imamah-Ghaybah / Re: This version of Hadith al-Thaqalayn is Saheeh li Ghayrihi
« Last post by Hani on Yesterday at 02:06:20 AM »
Fun quote I read in the past and stumbled upon again, could come in handy:

 قال الحافظ الزيلعي في نصب الراية 1/360
وكم من حديث كثرت رواته وتعددت طرقه، وهو حديث ضعيف

al-Hafiz al-Zayla`i said in Nasb-ul-Rayah 1/360:
[We find plenty of traditions reported by numerous narrators and many chains, yet they are still weak.]

He means that if the motivations are found, plenty of people can narrate faulty stories and fabricate texts which only increases those texts in weakness.
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It is the about the belief of ibn Babawaih al-Qummi aka Shaykh Saduq about the Sahwa (forgetfulness) of the Prophet (saw) and the 'infallible' Imams.

Mirza Mohamad Tonikaboni (whom they call the complete and elite of scholars and mujtahideen) writes in his Qasasul Olama pg. 976, under the biography of Saduq after mentioning that he believed in Sahwa (forgetfulness) of Prophet (saw) and the 'infallible' Imams:

و صدوق گفته است که استاد محمد بن الولید نیز همين مذھب داشته و اگر عمرم وفا کند رساله ای در این باب خواهم نوشت و شیخ بهائی در این مقام نوشته است که حمد خدای را که عمر اورا قطع کرد و او را توفیق آن نداد که چنان کتابی بنوسد و شیخ احمد دراین مسئله گفته که صدوق در این مسئله کذوب است

میرزا محمد تنکابنی


...Saduq has said that "[my] teacher Mohammad bin al-Walid had also this belief and if I get the chance I will write a Risala (treaty) on this topic." Shaikh Bahai has written on this that praise be to Allah for ending his life and not giving him the chance to write such a book. Shaikh Ahmad has said that Saduq was Kazub on this issue....

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Salam Alaykum,

Important article about the Shia Militias, their fractured loyalties, its connection to unemployment, and the future of the Middle East

http://www.niqash.org/en/articles/politics/5791/Will-Senior-Cleric-Disband-The-Militias-Who-Threaten-Iraq%E2%80%99s-Future.htm

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General Sunni-Shia / Re: Is Mutah Really Halal For Shia?
« Last post by Khaled on December 15, 2017, 02:46:13 AM »
Wa Alaykumus Salaam. This is really getting very long and uneccesarily.

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته

Don't you think that the reason this thread has gotten so long is because you're not addressing the contents of the thread?  You were called out several times for beating around the bush and not discussing the issues brought up.  What this does is create more issues, and we now have several NEW issues that you have yet to address; making the discussing even longer.  So lets try to summarize this and make it as concise as possible:

1) What is the ruling for Mut'ah in the Ja'fari madhhab?
2) If it is at least mustahabb, why is it so taboo in Ja'fari communities?
3) Is there any fatwas or ahadeeth which mention that Mut'ah is for certain circumstances?  As you know, the fatwas we read and the ahadeeth that are quoted always seem to imply that the virtue of the act is unrestricted.
4) Do you believe that Bukhari, Muslim and other early hadeeth scholars mentioned the narrations that "Omar banned Mut'ah" because they believe Omar DID ban Mut'ah, or did they have other intentions?
5) Why did you think you were making a point when you said that "Mut'ah was allowed during the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم's time"?  This one is real confusing to me because ALL things that were haraam were allowed until the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم banned it.
6) New issue:  I was reading this thread on shiachat http://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/235054737-can-i-have-mutah-with-different-men/ Why do you suppose everyone was discouraging her from doing Mut'ah with multiple men and some even accused her of being Salafi/Wahhabi?  How does this reconcile with the ahadeeth we read which say that the more you do Mut'ah, the more reward you will get (as is mentioned in the latest post by Muslim720)?

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Don't we have any sense? *snip* I will continue this.

With all due respect, but that right there is why this thread has gotten so long.  Please try to stay on topic without appealing to "logic"; I am appealing to "logic" as well since we are both having a debate about this topic.  Just like you believe what I am saying is irrational, I think what you are saying is irrational and doesn't have textual basis.  As a result, you and I have a conversation actually addressing each other's points so we can reach a common word, بارك الله فيك.  We both believe in the Qur'an, the Sunnah and appealing to logic and reason.  So lets try to stay on topic so that this discussion can move forward, أحسن الله إليكم.

والسلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
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General Sunni-Shia / Re: Is Mutah Really Halal For Shia?
« Last post by iceman on December 15, 2017, 12:25:59 AM »
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
This is what I'm trying to get at; maybe I'm wrong and its not a recommended act in the Ja'fari madhhab.  Yet, I have never come across a Ja'fari scholar who discourages Mut'ah, or says that it is anything less than mustahabb.  Perhaps you will show me a scholar who does, or you can show Rationalist a hadeeth that say Mut'ah is only in certain circumstances.

*sigh*

I don't know where to begin.  First of all, you are right, this is off topic.  Second of all, I'm amazed at this level of contradiction considering a) you follow infallible Imams, b) you are so critical of the Sunni madhhabs; but that's not our topic.  Thirdly, if you wanted to prove your point, you could've shown a statement by an Ayatollah saying "you shouldn't do Mut'ah in certain situations because..." as that is our discussion at hand.

Virtuous as in it is mustahabb, as in one is rewarded for doing it.  As far is it being better than Tahajjud (is that what you are saying?) and the other prayer (again, I apologize, I can't tell what you are saying); my understanding is that it is WAY better than those things.  My understanding is that doing it four times well get you into heaven on the same leve as the Messenger صلى الله عليه وسلم.  Can you possibly say that about the prayers you mentioned (or anything else really)?

Finally, a response that actually addresses the topic.  Problem is, this seems to be your personal explanation.  Is there any reference that one has to be in exceptional circumstances for it be a virtuous act?  One hadeeth, statement of an Imam, fatwa of a Marji'... anything...

I don't hate Shi'as, and I think you can see with how I've responded with Hadrami and Opitmus Prime, I am VERY fair in Ja'fari/Mainstream Muslim discussions.

Problem is the rampant contradictions between what you are saying, and what we read Shi'a scholars say, and what the ahadeeth and statements of the Imams claim.  The fact that it is not practiced in a widespread way like fasting and salah is exactly the point of this thread; if it is in fact something which can lead me to heaven, which is it treated like such a taboo subject.  The answer I got from you is it is a circumstantial thing.  I am willing to accept that; now, can you provide any evidence that this is the case in the Ja'fari Madhhab?

بارك الله فيك وأحسن الله إليك

Wa Alaykumus Salaam. This is really getting very long and uneccesarily. Don't we have any sense? Yes we do. Does logic mean anything? Yes it does. Are we bright or dull? We are bright. Are we clever or clumsy? We are clever. And so on and so forth.

When it comes to the alphabet do we use the word 'alphabet' or do we start off from A B C..... all the way up to Z each and every time we mean and talk about the alphabet.

When it comes to getting from A to B are signs and directions not enough or do we need to be taken or driven from A to B each and every time?

For heaven's sake, for crying out loud 2 and 2 is 4. Hens lay eggs, they do not have babies and so on and so forth. An intelligent and sensible just relies on reality and facts. Through sense and logic and signs and directions are more than enough to understand and figure things out but only for the wise man.

I believe we are intelligent and wise. Then why are we asking for things in black and white, then no we actually want it in colour. Then this, that and the other.

I will continue this.
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General Discussion / Re: Mosul Locals Take Reconstruction Into Their Own Hands
« Last post by MuslimK on December 14, 2017, 10:45:01 PM »
Walaikum Salam,

Brave people! May Allah help them.
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General Discussion / Mosul Locals Take Reconstruction Into Their Own Hands
« Last post by MuslimAnswers on December 14, 2017, 05:56:47 PM »
Salam Alaykum,

Interesting article about the reconstruction or lack thereof in Mosul:

http://www.niqash.org/+m4rc4
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General Sunni-Shia / Re: Is Mutah Really Halal For Shia?
« Last post by MuslimAnswers on December 14, 2017, 03:16:08 PM »
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This is what I'm trying to get at; maybe I'm wrong and its not a recommended act in the Ja'fari madhhab.  Yet, I have never come across a Ja'fari scholar who discourages Mut'ah, or says that it is anything less than mustahabb.  Perhaps you will show me a scholar who does, or you can show Rationalist a hadeeth that say Mut'ah is only in certain circumstances.

The issue is of course, that 12er Shias do practice Mut'ah on quite a normal scale, and Shia men and women discuss it and joke about it often, so the stonewalling in front of us Sunnis is quite strange.

There are other analogous situations: Like for Muslims in general when we talk among ourselves most of us do protrude a hatred of Israel. Now, if we get very defensive and act as if it almost does not happen in our circles [when confronted by outside critics], this is the height of silliness since the proof of our attitudes is vast. Thus, we either we change course or defend the general Israel-hatred. There are no two ways about it.
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General Sunni-Shia / Re: Is Mutah Really Halal For Shia?
« Last post by muslim720 on December 14, 2017, 07:25:36 AM »
This is exactly what I'm talking about, exceptional circumstances. This is exactly what Mutah is for. It's not a common thing or ordinary practice within Shia. You've answered it yourself. Why use something, manipulate it then blow it out of proportion and try to paint a bad picture about the Shia.

Brother, I do not wish to burden you with all these hadiths - in other words, you are not required to answer for them - but please do not tell me that mutah is something of an "exceptional" nature and that we use it to "paint a bad picture about the Shia".

The Prophet said, “The man who contracts Mutah once will be saved from the Hellfire. One who contracts it twice will be in the company of virtuous men [in Paradise]. And the one who contracts it three times will be my companion in the highest level of Paradise.” (Al-Kafi)

The Prophet said, “The men and women who die without performing Mutah even once in their lives will appear on the Day of Judgment with their ears and nose cut and [their faces] deformed.” (Al-Kafi)

Imam Jafar as-Sadiq narrated from the Prophet that “one third of the body is saved from the Hellfire if one contracts mutah once. Two thirds of the body is saved if one contracts Mutah twice, and the whole body is saved from Hell if one contracts Mutah three times.” (Al-Kafi)

It is narrated that once the Prophet was sitting among his companions and the discussion came to the topic of mutah. The Prophet said, “Do you know what is the reward of mutah?” The companions answered, “No,” The Prophet then said, “Jibraeel just came to me and said, ‘0 Muhammad, Allah sends His blessings to you and commands you to instruct your Ummah to engage in the practice of Mutah since this is the practice of [Allah’s] virtuous servants.” (Al-Kafi)

“One who engages in Mutah once attains the status of Imam al-Hussain. One who engages in it twice becomes equal in status to Imam al-Hasan. The one who performs it three times reaches the position of Imam Ali. And he who practices it four times acquires the level and position [equal to that] of the Prophet.” (Al-Kafi)
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