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General Discussion / Re: I got banned from shiachat
« Last post by Rationalist on Yesterday at 10:03:59 AM »
i wish i couldbut i am still banned, so unfortunately when i go on the site the banned one appears on my computer, i can log on from another computer but i want to log on my devices

You can just clear your cache. However, once a site bans me, I never bother going back. The reason is they don't want freedom of expression.
I've been on Shiachat from 2004-2010. I enjoyed my stay there. You can learn a lot from your opponents. In the beginning, I used to be Pro Unity, but the 12er Shia brothers began harassing me for not become a Rafidah. Then over time I started pushing back, and eventually they kept a sharp eye on all my post. I remember, some of my post were even deleted. Then eventually many spies were watching what I did online outside shiachat. Then one day I just got banned.

After all these years, I no longer hate them for that. I wish them success in the aqira, because in the end they too are part of the ummah.
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Yah one can just substitute the hadith with aql. What a great achievement.
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Seems he was Kazub on many other issues, still waiting for the relevant research on this man's downfall.

I pity at the misery of this cult when I stumble across views like these:

المشهور في المدرسة القمية أن مرسلات الشيخ الصدوق الجزمية معتبرة، وممن يرى هذا الرأي الإمام الخميني «عليه الرحمة (الشيخ مرتضى الباشا * - 5 / 8 / 2005م - 3:10 م)

"It is highly common in the hawza ilmiyah of Qum that mursal ahadith of Shaikh Saduq (ra) are dogmatically accepted as being reliable , and among those who held this view included Imam Khomeini." (Ayatullah Shaikh Murtada al Basha, on 5/8/2005, 3.10pm)

الفقهاء يرى أن مرسلات الصدوق التي يرسلها مباشرة إلى الإمام - عليه السلام - روايات صحيحة السند . و ممن يقول بهذا الرأي الشيخ الفاضل اللنكراني - حفظه الله تعالى

Many of the scholars hold the view that the mursal ahadith of Shaikh Sadooq (ra) which he quotes directly from the Imam (as), are sahih (authentic) in sanad (chain of narration). Among the many who held this view was Ayatullah Fadil Lankarani as well.
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Seems he was Kazub on many other issues, still waiting for the relevant research on this man's downfall.
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General Discussion / Re: I got banned from shiachat
« Last post by Hadrami on Yesterday at 06:25:24 AM »
Does anyone know how i can get back in?
considering you are female and how we have heard some scandal from former members there involving admins and female users, id say you should be thankful you cant login anymore
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There seems to have been a call by Sistani's representative for the militias to be brought under Iraqi state control:

http://www.rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/151220171

It would remain to be seen if this would actually take place and bring about effective change given the variegated aims of the militias.
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Imamah-Ghaybah / Re: This version of Hadith al-Thaqalayn is Saheeh li Ghayrihi
« Last post by Hani on December 16, 2017, 02:06:20 AM »
Fun quote I read in the past and stumbled upon again, could come in handy:

 قال الحافظ الزيلعي في نصب الراية 1/360
وكم من حديث كثرت رواته وتعددت طرقه، وهو حديث ضعيف

al-Hafiz al-Zayla`i said in Nasb-ul-Rayah 1/360:
[We find plenty of traditions reported by numerous narrators and many chains, yet they are still weak.]

He means that if the motivations are found, plenty of people can narrate faulty stories and fabricate texts which only increases those texts in weakness.
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It is the about the belief of ibn Babawaih al-Qummi aka Shaykh Saduq about the Sahwa (forgetfulness) of the Prophet (saw) and the 'infallible' Imams.

Mirza Mohamad Tonikaboni (whom they call the complete and elite of scholars and mujtahideen) writes in his Qasasul Olama pg. 976, under the biography of Saduq after mentioning that he believed in Sahwa (forgetfulness) of Prophet (saw) and the 'infallible' Imams:

و صدوق گفته است که استاد محمد بن الولید نیز همين مذھب داشته و اگر عمرم وفا کند رساله ای در این باب خواهم نوشت و شیخ بهائی در این مقام نوشته است که حمد خدای را که عمر اورا قطع کرد و او را توفیق آن نداد که چنان کتابی بنوسد و شیخ احمد دراین مسئله گفته که صدوق در این مسئله کذوب است

میرزا محمد تنکابنی


...Saduq has said that "[my] teacher Mohammad bin al-Walid had also this belief and if I get the chance I will write a Risala (treaty) on this topic." Shaikh Bahai has written on this that praise be to Allah for ending his life and not giving him the chance to write such a book. Shaikh Ahmad has said that Saduq was Kazub on this issue....

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Salam Alaykum,

Important article about the Shia Militias, their fractured loyalties, its connection to unemployment, and the future of the Middle East

http://www.niqash.org/en/articles/politics/5791/Will-Senior-Cleric-Disband-The-Militias-Who-Threaten-Iraq%E2%80%99s-Future.htm

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General Sunni-Shia / Re: Is Mutah Really Halal For Shia?
« Last post by Khaled on December 15, 2017, 02:46:13 AM »
Wa Alaykumus Salaam. This is really getting very long and uneccesarily.

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته

Don't you think that the reason this thread has gotten so long is because you're not addressing the contents of the thread?  You were called out several times for beating around the bush and not discussing the issues brought up.  What this does is create more issues, and we now have several NEW issues that you have yet to address; making the discussing even longer.  So lets try to summarize this and make it as concise as possible:

1) What is the ruling for Mut'ah in the Ja'fari madhhab?
2) If it is at least mustahabb, why is it so taboo in Ja'fari communities?
3) Is there any fatwas or ahadeeth which mention that Mut'ah is for certain circumstances?  As you know, the fatwas we read and the ahadeeth that are quoted always seem to imply that the virtue of the act is unrestricted.
4) Do you believe that Bukhari, Muslim and other early hadeeth scholars mentioned the narrations that "Omar banned Mut'ah" because they believe Omar DID ban Mut'ah, or did they have other intentions?
5) Why did you think you were making a point when you said that "Mut'ah was allowed during the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم's time"?  This one is real confusing to me because ALL things that were haraam were allowed until the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم banned it.
6) New issue:  I was reading this thread on shiachat http://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/235054737-can-i-have-mutah-with-different-men/ Why do you suppose everyone was discouraging her from doing Mut'ah with multiple men and some even accused her of being Salafi/Wahhabi?  How does this reconcile with the ahadeeth we read which say that the more you do Mut'ah, the more reward you will get (as is mentioned in the latest post by Muslim720)?

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Don't we have any sense? *snip* I will continue this.

With all due respect, but that right there is why this thread has gotten so long.  Please try to stay on topic without appealing to "logic"; I am appealing to "logic" as well since we are both having a debate about this topic.  Just like you believe what I am saying is irrational, I think what you are saying is irrational and doesn't have textual basis.  As a result, you and I have a conversation actually addressing each other's points so we can reach a common word, بارك الله فيك.  We both believe in the Qur'an, the Sunnah and appealing to logic and reason.  So lets try to stay on topic so that this discussion can move forward, أحسن الله إليكم.

والسلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
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