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General Sunni-Shia / Re: Myself against a bunch of shias .

« Last post by Mythbuster1 on April 14, 2020, 07:29:45 PM »

"who uses a hadith but CANNOT prove whom the prophet pbuh told to get out"

😂 It's common sense. Use it. The one who spoke and objected. And those who sided with him. 😊 The Prophet s.a.w asked for pen send paper, who thought it should be given to him. And who thought it shouldn't be given to him. It's that easy to work out. You don't need to be Einstein to figure it out  😊 You know the truth and what lies behind it. You're just too ashamed to admit it. 😊

"Lol they have passed away and their achievements are many in AUTHENTIC history as well as praises in sunnah as well as blessings of paradise from god"

And what about people like Malik bin Nuwayrah and his tribes men? They were companions of the Prophet s.a.w too. Where was their guarantee and ticket to heaven? What happened to that?  😊 If Qur'an and Sunnah speaks so highly of the companions then why categorise between them? And then when others do why sweat over it and lose sleep? 😊

"You can’t prove divine Imamate in Quran without adding your own thought!"

😀 Proven many times over. Asked many times over. Then proven many times over. Wilayat as well as Imamah. 😊 You just can't digest it 😊

"This is shiism a sect born from a guy who thought Ali ra was god!"

😊☺😀😃😁😅😂 You don't have a clue about what Shiaism is and what it stands for. 😊 So it's obvious you're going to try and paint an ill and gloomy picture about it. 😆😆

Let’s do an iceman and break it down, I am sure this guy might not be reading the report properly.😂😂

"Come near let me write for you a writing after which you will never go astray." 'Umar said: "The Prophet is seriously ill, and you have the Qur'an, so Allah's Book is sufficient for us." The people in the house differed and disputed. Some of them said, "Come near so that Allah's Apostle may write for you a writing after which you will not go astray," while the others said what 'Umar said. When they made much noise and quarreled greatly in front of the Prophet, he said to them, "Go away and leave me." Ibn 'Abbas used to say, "It was a great disaster that their quarrel and noise prevented Allah's Apostle from writing a statement for them.
Sahih al Bukhari Arabic-English Volume 9 hadith number 468 and Volume 7 hadith 573

The relevant part of the hadith which dimwit ASSUMES relates to Umar ra because he hates him so much disregarding or selectively NOT entertaining the fact that it could also be ahlu baith whom the prophet pbuh was referring to also.

“ The people in the house differed and disputed. Some of them said, "Come near so that Allah's Apostle may write for you a writing after which you will not go astray," while the others said what 'Umar said. When they made much noise and quarreled greatly in front of the Prophet, he said to THEM!”

“Them” = Umar !

😂 shiism 😂

This is an USTAAD I am debating with for crying out loud

😂😂😂

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General Sunni-Shia / Re: 15000 Sunni Masaajids in Iran and 9 in Tehran alone?

« Last post by Mythbuster1 on April 14, 2020, 07:16:21 PM »

Authentic reports by whom? By you or a handful of Shias based on unity amongst Muslims? 😊 What's the matter, you don't want to talk about and discuss facts 😊 Just rely on reports with your eyes closed because it suits your ideology 😊 Discuss if you have it. I don't think you have it 😆

You haven’t got facts but heresay and utter nonsense as is the case with you from day 1.

You can’t proof the core of your sects faith divine Imamate how on earth are you gonna prove falsehood right?😜

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General Sunni-Shia / Re: 15000 Sunni Masaajids in Iran and 9 in Tehran alone?

« Last post by Mythbuster1 on April 14, 2020, 07:11:32 PM »

"Also could you provide authentic evidence about Ali ra NOT giving bayah according to your theory"

Did Ali give allegiance to Abu Bakr as soon as he heard about the decision in Saqifa? Or did Ali give allegiance to Abu Bakr after a period of 6 months? If after a period of 6 months then why? What was the reason for the delay? With references and explanation based on logic and reason 😊

"And DONT post reports by handful of shiites who lie, give us solid proofs"

Lol. Lol again. A handful of Shias? That's what you and others do. Just to prove your desired point you'll post a opinion/statement of a Shia Scholar or book picked at random and will try to get me to accept it 😀 And then you go "Shias who lie" What do you mean about that. Everyone who seems to disagree with you either is a liar or an hypocrite according to you 😀 Put down a principle and lets go by that 😊 But you will never ever do it. Your entire faith depends and survives on double standards 😀

"Come on dimwit let’s see your authentic evidences"

Lol. Lol again. And one more time since I find you sooooo funny 😂 Yeh lets see tha authentic evidence of Malik bin Nuwayrah going astray 😀 Did Ali give allegiance after 6 months or straight away? 😊 Make up your mind first 😀

You want evidence based on logic, well He gave bayah in the end.
He gave bayah!!

You have NOTHING apart from lies and assumptions on why he did that.

I don’t want reports from kufans I want a genuine report that He didn’t give bayah, how hard is that? Or do you rely on kufi liars and Shiites who follow them?
You know you have nothing apart from the above for if you did you wouldn’t be dragging your feet posting nonsense.😂

We have many and I gave you ibn Kathir and tabari but it’s not my fault you want to selectively deny something that was commonly known and apparent, we don’t need to lie to make someone look bad.......like YOU do and being caught out.😂

Ali ra gave bayah full stop now the onus should be on you to provide solid proof He didn’t!
You can’t so you keep asking stupidly without realising, was it 6 or straight away again and again.

It doesn’t matter He served under the 3 rashidun khalifs (divine imam serving others kills off Shiite fake theory)you have nothing apart from assumptions to why.😂

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General Sunni-Shia / Re: Myself against a bunch of shias .

« Last post by iceman on April 14, 2020, 06:38:10 PM »

Lol they have passed away and their achievements are many in AUTHENTIC history as well as praises in sunnah as well as blessings of paradise from god.

You can wine and moan all you want hypocrite because divine imams never existed and the hate you have is typical of a hypocrite who uses a hadith but CANNOT prove whom the prophet pbuh told to get out,  this alone shows your hypocrisy in not answering that, instead posting nonsense based on assumptions.

You can’t prove divine Imamate in Quran without adding your own thought!

You can’t prove Umar ra was wrong in hadith without adding your own thought!

This is shiism a sect born from a guy who thought Ali ra was god!

😁

"who uses a hadith but CANNOT prove whom the prophet pbuh told to get out"

😂 It's common sense. Use it. The one who spoke and objected. And those who sided with him. 😊 The Prophet s.a.w asked for pen send paper, who thought it should be given to him. And who thought it shouldn't be given to him. It's that easy to work out. You don't need to be Einstein to figure it out  😊 You know the truth and what lies behind it. You're just too ashamed to admit it. 😊

"Lol they have passed away and their achievements are many in AUTHENTIC history as well as praises in sunnah as well as blessings of paradise from god"

And what about people like Malik bin Nuwayrah and his tribes men? They were companions of the Prophet s.a.w too. Where was their guarantee and ticket to heaven? What happened to that?  😊 If Qur'an and Sunnah speaks so highly of the companions then why categorise between them? And then when others do why sweat over it and lose sleep? 😊

"You can’t prove divine Imamate in Quran without adding your own thought!"

😀 Proven many times over. Asked many times over. Then proven many times over. Wilayat as well as Imamah. 😊 You just can't digest it 😊

"This is shiism a sect born from a guy who thought Ali ra was god!"

😊☺😀😃😁😅😂 You don't have a clue about what Shiaism is and what it stands for. 😊 So it's obvious you're going to try and paint an ill and gloomy picture about it. 😆😆

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General Sunni-Shia / Re: Myself against a bunch of shias .

« Last post by Mythbuster1 on April 14, 2020, 06:24:07 PM »

"you in turn post about Umar ra???"

😊 You get Umar and his merry men to obey and follow Allah's command first which they haven't done "what the Prophet s.a.w gives you take it, what he forbids refrain from it" 😊

The Prophet s.a.w said "fetch me a pen and paper so I may write something for you so that you don't go ASTRAY after me". He didn't write or because he couldn't write because they differed and quarrelled over it. So they went astray. Bring them back first. Then been astray for nearly 1400 years now. 😊

Lol they have passed away and their achievements are many in AUTHENTIC history as well as praises in sunnah as well as blessings of paradise from god.

You can wine and moan all you want hypocrite because divine imams never existed and the hate you have is typical of a hypocrite who uses a hadith but CANNOT prove whom the prophet pbuh told to get out,  this alone shows your hypocrisy in not answering that, instead posting nonsense based on assumptions.

You can’t prove divine Imamate in Quran without adding your own thought!

You can’t prove Umar ra was wrong in hadith without adding your own thought!

This is shiism a sect born from a guy who thought Ali ra was god!

😁

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General Sunni-Shia / Re: Myself against a bunch of shias .

« Last post by Mythbuster1 on April 14, 2020, 06:11:00 PM »

"Yes He was upto spreading Islam far and away"

Was he? How can you spread Islam when people believe he went astray. You have to stay and remain on it first. It's your belief that companions can go astray. Or is it your belief that companions are Mehfooz and can't go astray because Qur'an speaks for them and they are given salvation. Where do you actually and really stand on this? 😊

"while your divine imams were nowhere to be seen or heard of"

😊 They were right there protecting and defending Islam through patience and tolerance from those who were hell-bent in forcing Caliphate and all Costs. 😊 They were safeguarding Islam and Muslims from those who were ready to cause mayhem if Caliphate wasn't imposed and from those who were there to take advantage of the situation. The Imams kept the situation under control rather than having it their at any cost. 😊 GET IT 😊

Yea strayed by saying Quran is sufficient, come on hypocrite haven’t you got any solid arguments for Nuwera, the apostate,  can’t you find anything in history of Islam on any major sahaba ra turning apostate?
 That would be comparison.

Or is it just the hate for the first companions and saqifa, which seeps through your every post..😁

Lol divine imams were protecting Islam 😂😂 what a joke you mean like the last one in hiding......”defending Islam”😂👍

Good one 😁👍

Umar ra LIVED.......divine imams never existed.

😊GET IT😁

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General Sunni-Shia / Re: Myself against a bunch of shias .

« Last post by iceman on April 14, 2020, 05:41:13 PM »

Yes He was upto spreading Islam far and wide while your divine imams were nowhere to be seen or heard of.......oh wait they was too scared to confront Him and left it to great Shiite minds like yourself to explain why.😂😂😂👍

"Yes He was upto spreading Islam far and away"

Was he? How can you spread Islam when people believe he went astray. You have to stay and remain on it first. It's your belief that companions can go astray. Or is it your belief that companions are Mehfooz and can't go astray because Qur'an speaks for them and they are given salvation. Where do you actually and really stand on this? 😊

"while your divine imams were nowhere to be seen or heard of"

😊 They were right there protecting and defending Islam through patience and tolerance from those who were hell-bent in forcing Caliphate and all Costs. 😊 They were safeguarding Islam and Muslims from those who were ready to cause mayhem if Caliphate wasn't imposed and from those who were there to take advantage of the situation. The Imams kept the situation under control rather than having it their at any cost. 😊 GET IT 😊

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General Sunni-Shia / Re: Myself against a bunch of shias .

« Last post by iceman on April 14, 2020, 05:30:58 PM »

Lol I post about your grammar.......you in turn post about Umar ra???

😂😂😂😂

The hate and lies of shaytaans minions.

😂👍

"you in turn post about Umar ra???"

😊 You get Umar and his merry men to obey and follow Allah's command first which they haven't done "what the Prophet s.a.w gives you take it, what he forbids refrain from it" 😊

The Prophet s.a.w said "fetch me a pen and paper so I may write something for you so that you don't go ASTRAY after me". He didn't write or because he couldn't write because they differed and quarrelled over it. So they went astray. Bring them back first. Then been astray for nearly 1400 years now. 😊

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General Sunni-Shia / Re: 15000 Sunni Masaajids in Iran and 9 in Tehran alone?

« Last post by iceman on April 14, 2020, 05:25:14 PM »

Also could you provide authentic evidence about Ali ra NOT giving bayah according to your theory.

And DONT post reports by handful of shiites who lie, give us solid proofs.

Come on dimwit let’s see your authentic evidences😂

"Also could you provide authentic evidence about Ali ra NOT giving bayah according to your theory"

Did Ali give allegiance to Abu Bakr as soon as he heard about the decision in Saqifa? Or did Ali give allegiance to Abu Bakr after a period of 6 months? If after a period of 6 months then why? What was the reason for the delay? With references and explanation based on logic and reason 😊

"And DONT post reports by handful of shiites who lie, give us solid proofs"

Lol. Lol again. A handful of Shias? That's what you and others do. Just to prove your desired point you'll post a opinion/statement of a Shia Scholar or book picked at random and will try to get me to accept it 😀 And then you go "Shias who lie" What do you mean about that. Everyone who seems to disagree with you either is a liar or an hypocrite according to you 😀 Put down a principle and lets go by that 😊 But you will never ever do it. Your entire faith depends and survives on double standards 😀

"Come on dimwit let’s see your authentic evidences"

Lol. Lol again. And one more time since I find you sooooo funny 😂 Yeh lets see tha authentic evidence of Malik bin Nuwayrah going astray 😀 Did Ali give allegiance after 6 months or straight away? 😊 Make up your mind first 😀

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General Sunni-Shia / Re: Once again I require your help

« Last post by iceman on April 14, 2020, 04:12:19 PM »

Yes dimwit we have plethora of evidences, I gave you 2!!

Companions following another prophet is not a companion no more, he/she is not Muslim!

You lost from the point you started equalling apostasy with a statement “Quran is sufficient”

You have been exposed as a liar and a hypocrite using double standards especially regarding the apostate.

You have NOTHING, your words are babble and you can’t even read the verses of Quran clearly without adding your own divine nonsense to them.

Bring it on big Shiite man😂😂😂

"Companions following another prophet is not a companion no more, he/she is not Muslim"

Firstly where is the clear cut evidence for this. Secondly you do believe that companions can go astray further as becoming apostates. Then believe in this principle and follow freedom of speech and the right of others to accept that companions went astray just as you say and believe they can. 😊

"You lost from the point you started equalling apostasy with a statement “Quran is sufficient”

A companion differed with Muhammad s.a.w on what he had to write and offer by saying "we have the book of Allah with us, the book of Allah is sufficient for us" Therefore violating the command of Allah that "what ever the Prophet s.a.w gives you, take it and what ever he forbids refrain from it", where he went astray along with others who sided with him.

Now those who believe in this you have no right what so ever to challenge them over this. Because you believe that companions can go astray. 😊

"You have been exposed as a liar and a hypocrite using double standards especially regarding the apostate"

That description fits on you. 😊

"You have NOTHING, your words are babble and you can’t even read the verses of Quran clearly without adding your own divine nonsense to them"

😀 Explain! You can't discuss. You don't have anything. 😊

"Bring it on big Shiite man"

😀 I have and I am. 😊 Nothing positive and constructive from you. 😊