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AhluBayt was expeled of Mecca?

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AhluBayt was expeled of Mecca?
« on: May 21, 2016, 08:10:02 PM »
Salam Aylikoum.

Often I heard, even by sunni, that Mohamed ibn Abdel Wahab Has expeled Ahlu lbayt of Mecca. (Or by Saoud)

What's is the reality of that?

It's true that Ahlu lbayt must be guardian of Mecca?

Barak'Allah ou fikoum.
« Last Edit: May 21, 2016, 08:13:42 PM by scusemyenglish »
Abou Hourayra narrated that the messenger saws said:

"“There will come to the people years
of treachery (...) the Ruwaibidhah will decide matters.”
It was said

 'Who are the Ruwaibidhah?'

The Prophet replied:

 “Vile and
ignorant men who will speak in the affairs of the people.”

Hadrami

Re: AhluBayt was expeled of Mecca?
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2016, 01:23:59 AM »
the last hashimi leader of al haram was king of jordan's great grandad. In the late 1910 with the help of the Brits, he rebelled against the khalifa, but then as usually the case, the brits who first helping them then abandon them. Later, their main rival, saud family defeated and expelled them. Since they are ahlulbayt, so maybe this is where the story comes from.

Hani

Re: AhluBayt was expeled of Mecca?
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2016, 04:29:24 AM »
Banu Hashim are not exactly tasked with taking care of the site. It was specific people who had duties, for instance al-`Abbas was in charge of Siqayah, while some other tribe was in charge of the Ka`bah (they had the key) and so on... These same people I believe are still in charge of this duty until our day.

Makkah was ruled by the "Ashraf" before the "Wahhabi" movement came and defeated them.
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

scusemyenglish

Re: AhluBayt was expeled of Mecca?
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2016, 12:11:28 PM »
Banu Hashim are not exactly tasked with taking care of the site. It was specific people who had duties, for instance al-`Abbas was in charge of Siqayah, while some other tribe was in charge of the Ka`bah (they had the key) and so on... These same people I believe are still in charge of this duty until our day.

Makkah was ruled by the "Ashraf" before the "Wahhabi" movement came and defeated them.


But the ashraf was defeated by Abdel Wahab or by Saoud?
Abou Hourayra narrated that the messenger saws said:

"“There will come to the people years
of treachery (...) the Ruwaibidhah will decide matters.”
It was said

 'Who are the Ruwaibidhah?'

The Prophet replied:

 “Vile and
ignorant men who will speak in the affairs of the people.”

Hani

Re: AhluBayt was expeled of Mecca?
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2016, 07:05:04 PM »
Sa`ud had the support of the Wahhabi movement.
عَلامَةُ أَهْلِ الْبِدَعِ الْوَقِيعَةُ فِي أَهْلِ الأَثَرِ. وَعَلامَةُ الْجَهْمِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُشَبِّهَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الْقَدَرِيَّةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ السُّنَّةِ مُجَبِّرَةً. وَعَلامَةُ الزَّنَادِقَةِ أَنْ يُسَمُّوا أَهْلَ الأَثَرِ حَشْوِيَّةً

Religion = simple & clear

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Re: AhluBayt was expeled of Mecca?
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2016, 05:42:48 AM »
In the late 1910 with the help of the Brits, he rebelled against the khalifa, but then as usually the case, the brits who first helping them then abandon them.

Prove this.
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Re: AhluBayt was expeled of Mecca?
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2016, 05:45:02 AM »
Sa`ud had the support of the Wahhabi movement.

WAHHABI MOVEMENT!!?


Sheikh-ul Islam Muhammad Ibn Abdulwahhab NEVER called to a movement he "created," NEVER!
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