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Title: Can a Sunni hold this view?
Post by: confusedshia on November 18, 2017, 03:45:07 PM
Salam,

Is it acceptable for a Sunni to hold the view that Ali ibn Abu Talib was more virtuous than Abu Bakr and may have been a better first leader for the ummah, whilst simultaneously accepting the validity of Abu Bakr's rule, or would this be considered a deviant view?
Title: Re: Can a Sunni hold this view?
Post by: Farid on November 18, 2017, 05:09:56 PM
Wa alaykum alsalam,

It would be an incorrect view, but I don't like to refer to a small thing like this as deviant.
Title: Re: Can a Sunni hold this view?
Post by: Hani on November 18, 2017, 09:16:07 PM
Definitely not a "deviant" view, rather a matter of preference. I believe it was Allah's grace that led to a wise and experienced leader like Abu Bakr to be in charge in those critical times.
Title: Re: Can a Sunni hold this view?
Post by: Optimus Prime on November 19, 2017, 03:53:05 PM
I personally definitely think it's a deviant view, and I have read works of various scholars from the past who would declare such a person a renegade deviant.

One is essentially going against ijtema of many scholars and the highest authenticity of Ahadith which, confirm that 'Ali's rank is no where near Abu Bakr.
Title: Re: Can a Sunni hold this view?
Post by: confusedshia on November 21, 2017, 03:04:51 AM
I personally definitely think it's a deviant view, and I have read works of various scholars from the past who would declare such a person a renegade deviant.

One is essentially going against ijtema of many scholars and the highest authenticity of Ahadith which, confirm that 'Ali's rank is no where near Abu Bakr.

Can you give us some names please?
Title: Re: Can a Sunni hold this view?
Post by: confusedshia on November 21, 2017, 03:06:20 AM
Wa alaykum alsalam,

It would be an incorrect view, but I don't like to refer to a small thing like this as deviant.

Definitely not a "deviant" view, rather a matter of preference. I believe it was Allah's grace that led to a wise and experienced leader like Abu Bakr to be in charge in those critical times.

What about holding the view that Abu Bakr was mistaken for deciding not to invite or inform Ali ibn Abu Talib to join him at Saqifa?
Title: Re: Can a Sunni hold this view?
Post by: Rationalist on November 21, 2017, 05:18:44 AM
It is possible.
A whole lecture dedicated to this topic.